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I love the new H-Blockx Cover of "The Power" (originally by Snap). I was talking to a friend of mine about it. His attitude was that bands that cover songs are akin to vultures. It made him cross that decent songs were being ripped off to fund some other band.
So it got me thinking. I get cross when a song I like gets covered and "ruined by the artist that are doing the cover". For example, I love the song "Stand by Me" by Ben E. King, and it still grates on my ear every time I hear the John Lennon version (but then I don't really like anything John Lennon did after he left the Beatles).
maybe I have double standards. I love some cover versions but I get cross when a favorite song of mine gets 'ripped off' by someone else.
Thinking about it I decided that you can put all coverversions into three groups.
1. Cover versions which are recorded as close to the orininal as possible. i.e Tribute versions
examples: Robbie Williams and Nicole Kidman - Something Stupid, Sterophonics - Handbags and Gladrags
2. Cover versions that are rerecorded with no major changes to the song but in the style of the covering artist. 'rip-offs'
examples: - Madonna - American Pie,
3. Cover versions where the original song had a 'new twist' on it. Where the new artist has expressed their own art in the song.
examples: Queen Adrina - Joline, Tori Amos - Smells Like Teen Spirit.
Although it is to some extent down to your own opinon as to which of these catagories a cover song will fall. And people will always be influenced by how much they liked the original song and the new artist.
It might just come down to are you to lame to write any songs yourself or are you having a laugh with the song.
I guess the really telling point is if the original artist likes the new cover version.
Ros
So it got me thinking. I get cross when a song I like gets covered and "ruined by the artist that are doing the cover". For example, I love the song "Stand by Me" by Ben E. King, and it still grates on my ear every time I hear the John Lennon version (but then I don't really like anything John Lennon did after he left the Beatles).
maybe I have double standards. I love some cover versions but I get cross when a favorite song of mine gets 'ripped off' by someone else.
Thinking about it I decided that you can put all coverversions into three groups.
1. Cover versions which are recorded as close to the orininal as possible. i.e Tribute versions
examples: Robbie Williams and Nicole Kidman - Something Stupid, Sterophonics - Handbags and Gladrags
2. Cover versions that are rerecorded with no major changes to the song but in the style of the covering artist. 'rip-offs'
examples: - Madonna - American Pie,
3. Cover versions where the original song had a 'new twist' on it. Where the new artist has expressed their own art in the song.
examples: Queen Adrina - Joline, Tori Amos - Smells Like Teen Spirit.
Although it is to some extent down to your own opinon as to which of these catagories a cover song will fall. And people will always be influenced by how much they liked the original song and the new artist.
It might just come down to are you to lame to write any songs yourself or are you having a laugh with the song.
I guess the really telling point is if the original artist likes the new cover version.
Ros
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Craw wrote:
> Pennyroyal Tea was on my list.
>
> Remember when they did it for the evening session.. then at Reading
> first time as a 3 piece. A seminal Manics moment.
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Yeah some person on Manics forum told me about it and I download it a while back.
So I don't really 'remember' it :)
One of my favourite Nirvana tracks as well
> Pennyroyal Tea was on my list.
>
> Remember when they did it for the evening session.. then at Reading
> first time as a 3 piece. A seminal Manics moment.
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Yeah some person on Manics forum told me about it and I download it a while back.
So I don't really 'remember' it :)
One of my favourite Nirvana tracks as well
God I said 'manics moment'. Cue a song..
Pennyroyal Tea was on my list.
Remember when they did it for the evening session.. then at Reading first time as a 3 piece. A seminal Manics moment.
Remember when they did it for the evening session.. then at Reading first time as a 3 piece. A seminal Manics moment.
What the hell you talking about boyo
I can't be bothered finding your post
I only said 2
I'll say more then
Radiohead - Wish You Were Here
Radiohead - Sunday Bloody Sunday
U2 - Unchained Melody
I can't be bothered finding your post
I only said 2
I'll say more then
Radiohead - Wish You Were Here
Radiohead - Sunday Bloody Sunday
U2 - Unchained Melody
Stop copying my favourite covers SHEEPY, get yer own
Covers are good if they're:
a) done live at gig
b) are done for b-side and do it in their own way
c) if it's on chairty album thing
My two favourite covers are
Pennyroyal Tea by Manics
Can't Take my Eyes of you by Manics
a) done live at gig
b) are done for b-side and do it in their own way
c) if it's on chairty album thing
My two favourite covers are
Pennyroyal Tea by Manics
Can't Take my Eyes of you by Manics
Good covers;
A Little Help From My friends - Joe Cocker
Benny and The jets - The Beastie Boys
Condition - Supergrass
Bad covers;
A Little Help From My friends - Wet,Wet,Wet
Baker Street - Undercover
Crossroads - Blazing Squad
The only time a cover version should sound exactly like the original in my opinion is if it is being played by a covers band.
A Little Help From My friends - Joe Cocker
Benny and The jets - The Beastie Boys
Condition - Supergrass
Bad covers;
A Little Help From My friends - Wet,Wet,Wet
Baker Street - Undercover
Crossroads - Blazing Squad
The only time a cover version should sound exactly like the original in my opinion is if it is being played by a covers band.
Rosalind wrote:
> you don't think there is any merit in covering a song exactly as a
> tribute to a loved artist?
To be honest, I don't really see the point...
The same song, sung in the same way, with the same sound... why not just stick with the original?
I would have thought re-interpriting the track would show more respect to the original musician. That someone has taken the time and effort to understanding the sentiments and ideas of the music, rather than spuriously regurgitating whats already there?
> you don't think there is any merit in covering a song exactly as a
> tribute to a loved artist?
To be honest, I don't really see the point...
The same song, sung in the same way, with the same sound... why not just stick with the original?
I would have thought re-interpriting the track would show more respect to the original musician. That someone has taken the time and effort to understanding the sentiments and ideas of the music, rather than spuriously regurgitating whats already there?
Cover versions are good if:
a) the artist re-makes the song (re-interpretation) so as to make it very different from the original
and/or
b) the artist gives all profit from the song to a charity f the original artists choice.
a) the artist re-makes the song (re-interpretation) so as to make it very different from the original
and/or
b) the artist gives all profit from the song to a charity f the original artists choice.
Favourite Covers
Tool - Demon Cleaner (Kyuss)
Pearl Jam - F***in' Up (Neil Young)
Metallica - Breadfan (Budgie)
Manics - Pennyroyal Tea (Nirvana)
Although it has to be said my favourite types of covers are when bands 'slip in' a few moments (lyrics or music) of a song during their own. Class.
Tool - Demon Cleaner (Kyuss)
Pearl Jam - F***in' Up (Neil Young)
Metallica - Breadfan (Budgie)
Manics - Pennyroyal Tea (Nirvana)
Although it has to be said my favourite types of covers are when bands 'slip in' a few moments (lyrics or music) of a song during their own. Class.
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