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Do blind people dream?
What do they see?
What do they see?
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It depends whether or not the said person has been blind forever. If this is the case, then they either don't dream, dream sounds or have very unreal pictures in their heads and dream them. If they have grown blind they can probably remember what it was like and so dream of that.
Can you imagine a purple person eater Grix?
Yes, because you have the concepts of each of the words and you know what the colour purple is, you know what a person is, and you imagine something purple eatching people.
Blind people are told concepts and values/ideas, they have a collection of them in there heads throughout life, and although it may be wrong they take these concepts into a dream. I have seen 'new' things that don't exist in dreams, I know its just a collection of values being muddled up. Thats what I think blind people see when dreaming, everything they have ideas about.
Yes, because you have the concepts of each of the words and you know what the colour purple is, you know what a person is, and you imagine something purple eatching people.
Blind people are told concepts and values/ideas, they have a collection of them in there heads throughout life, and although it may be wrong they take these concepts into a dream. I have seen 'new' things that don't exist in dreams, I know its just a collection of values being muddled up. Thats what I think blind people see when dreaming, everything they have ideas about.
Yeah, but most people when they dream, taste things they have never tasted before and experience things they have never experienced before, and most of these feelings are pretty accurate once you finally do experience them in real life.
Perhaps there is a group conciousness that takes feelings and thoughts from others and plants them in your own mind. After all, brain processes are simply electrical signals, so there is reason to believe these can travel over distance and even control other minds to some extent.
This would explain a blind person's dream of a world where they could see.
Perhaps there is a group conciousness that takes feelings and thoughts from others and plants them in your own mind. After all, brain processes are simply electrical signals, so there is reason to believe these can travel over distance and even control other minds to some extent.
This would explain a blind person's dream of a world where they could see.
This is aimed at people who have never seen, by the by... Was just wondering, kicked off by an email I got.
Well, I do wonder sometimes can people dream of things they have never seen? Most 'new' devices and places are taken from things you've seen before... It's easy to imagine new things in real life, but to dream?
So what if you have never seen, and the only way you know of shape etc is by feel? Could they see, and what colour would we be? Is their mind not capable of colour?
I don't know, it just seemed interesting.
Well, I do wonder sometimes can people dream of things they have never seen? Most 'new' devices and places are taken from things you've seen before... It's easy to imagine new things in real life, but to dream?
So what if you have never seen, and the only way you know of shape etc is by feel? Could they see, and what colour would we be? Is their mind not capable of colour?
I don't know, it just seemed interesting.
Sorry, quote was from Fortean Times (issue 163, Oct 2002) - available in all good newsagents now.
Actually this has been a recognised phenomena going back many hundreds of years. The transition between sleep and wakefulness is called a Hypnagogic State and many people have taken it as a sign of a message from God or the answer to the universe, or even a vision of our future.
Aristotle was one of the first to mention it, finding meaning in the patterns and many people since have remarked or investigated the phenomena, such as Edgar Allen Poe and CG Jung, so you are in good company.
The medical history of this waking sleep goes back to the 19th Century:
"In a hypnogogic state, visions, voices, weird insights and unusual sensations greet us as we drift out of consciousness. Faces may appear, threatening or comical....The term 'hypnagogic' was coined by the 19th-Century French psychologist LF Alfred Maury and is derived from two Greek words, Hypnos (sleep) and agogeus (guide, or leader). Some years after Maury, the psychical researcher FWH Myers coined a complimentary term, 'hypnopompic', to cover a similar phenomena occuring as we wake from sleep."
It's something that anybody can accomplish given the right conditions, and part of this phenomena has been experienced by many school children as Day Dreaming. Certainly, it seems the easiest way to accomplish this is to read a long book and at the point of sleep, to be aware of images in your head. The hardest part is to keep your conscious mind aware of what your unconscious is experiencing, but if done correctly, it can beat any condition brought on from drugs. Who knows, perhaps it is telling your future?
Aristotle was one of the first to mention it, finding meaning in the patterns and many people since have remarked or investigated the phenomena, such as Edgar Allen Poe and CG Jung, so you are in good company.
The medical history of this waking sleep goes back to the 19th Century:
"In a hypnogogic state, visions, voices, weird insights and unusual sensations greet us as we drift out of consciousness. Faces may appear, threatening or comical....The term 'hypnagogic' was coined by the 19th-Century French psychologist LF Alfred Maury and is derived from two Greek words, Hypnos (sleep) and agogeus (guide, or leader). Some years after Maury, the psychical researcher FWH Myers coined a complimentary term, 'hypnopompic', to cover a similar phenomena occuring as we wake from sleep."
It's something that anybody can accomplish given the right conditions, and part of this phenomena has been experienced by many school children as Day Dreaming. Certainly, it seems the easiest way to accomplish this is to read a long book and at the point of sleep, to be aware of images in your head. The hardest part is to keep your conscious mind aware of what your unconscious is experiencing, but if done correctly, it can beat any condition brought on from drugs. Who knows, perhaps it is telling your future?
SHEEPY wrote:
> When I close my eyes before I go to sleep I see this strange thing all
> the time
>
> ---
>
> What happens is it kind of goes fuzzy like white noise... then kind of
> zooms past millions and millions of what I can only say are boxes full
> of colours... kinda of like pixels if you looked close at monitor...
> it's really cool and i'm sure meaning of life is hidden in there
> somewhere... or it's a blueprint to atoms.
>
I get that if I 'look' at the back of my eyelids. If I concentrate on them instead of just 'having my eyes closed', if you know what I mean. You can get the same sort of thing but a bit more intense if you put a little pressure on your eyeballs.
Which reminds me... has anyone ever tried to make themselves faint? If you've been lying down for a long time in the same position, or in a hot bath or something, then stand up straight craning your neck to look upwards, you'll pass out. It's really werid. You can see your peripheral vision greying out, and your hearing and sense of touch become weaker, as does your strength. You can actually feel yourself start to fall over, and maybe even hit the ground before you lose all sensation.
At that point you're passed out, totally oblivious to the world around, yet still conscious in a way. It isn't painful... but very, very uncomfortable in a way you can't understand unless you've done it. Then you'll slowly regain your senses, and come around.
Anyone tried it before? :D
> When I close my eyes before I go to sleep I see this strange thing all
> the time
>
> ---
>
> What happens is it kind of goes fuzzy like white noise... then kind of
> zooms past millions and millions of what I can only say are boxes full
> of colours... kinda of like pixels if you looked close at monitor...
> it's really cool and i'm sure meaning of life is hidden in there
> somewhere... or it's a blueprint to atoms.
>
I get that if I 'look' at the back of my eyelids. If I concentrate on them instead of just 'having my eyes closed', if you know what I mean. You can get the same sort of thing but a bit more intense if you put a little pressure on your eyeballs.
Which reminds me... has anyone ever tried to make themselves faint? If you've been lying down for a long time in the same position, or in a hot bath or something, then stand up straight craning your neck to look upwards, you'll pass out. It's really werid. You can see your peripheral vision greying out, and your hearing and sense of touch become weaker, as does your strength. You can actually feel yourself start to fall over, and maybe even hit the ground before you lose all sensation.
At that point you're passed out, totally oblivious to the world around, yet still conscious in a way. It isn't painful... but very, very uncomfortable in a way you can't understand unless you've done it. Then you'll slowly regain your senses, and come around.
Anyone tried it before? :D
Question Answer : Yes.
They dream of being able to see again, thats what one I asked answered. However she grew blind....
:( Thats one of my worst fears.
They dream of being able to see again, thats what one I asked answered. However she grew blind....
:( Thats one of my worst fears.
SHEEPY wrote:
>
>
> What happens is it kind of goes fuzzy like white noise... then kind of
> zooms past millions and millions of what I can only say are boxes full
> of colours... kinda of like pixels if you looked close at monitor...
> it's really cool and i'm sure meaning of life is hidden in there
> somewhere... or it's a blueprint to atoms.
>
> Nobody else get that then? :D
I get that when I rub my eyes, not when I close them though. It also happens for long if you clench a fist and press it against your eyes.
>
>
> What happens is it kind of goes fuzzy like white noise... then kind of
> zooms past millions and millions of what I can only say are boxes full
> of colours... kinda of like pixels if you looked close at monitor...
> it's really cool and i'm sure meaning of life is hidden in there
> somewhere... or it's a blueprint to atoms.
>
> Nobody else get that then? :D
I get that when I rub my eyes, not when I close them though. It also happens for long if you clench a fist and press it against your eyes.
When you dream you dream of a mixture of things that have happened to you in the daym or things that have affected you or daydreams in different form or another. Blind people use sounds to live, so I guess they must dream sounds.
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