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Wed 04/09/02 at 12:14
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Now, bible bashers say that God created man "in his own image".

So basically we're made up to look like him.

Please tell me what need Gods ever had for five toes on each foot, nose hair, eyebrows or opposable thumbs?

Our bodies fit our environment well, so it would be fair to say that any God creating us in his/her/its own image would also have originally come from a similar environment.

Would it also follow then, that "God", should he exist, is merely a higher from of intelligence, evolved or enhanced to his poweful state? A being from another planet, millions of years ahead of our own in terms of life, society and technology?

Certainly, a God would have no call for form at all, much less one so obviously designed to exist on solid ground, and not cloudy, spacy heavens. In a time where evolution theory is being put into question by the masterful structure of dna, the possibility of a "grand scheme" as opposed to simple "natural selection" is increasingly more likely to some scientists.

With this in mind, the whole idea of the bible and other religious transcripts is going to come under a lot of scrutiny, and the first thing that falls down for me is man being made in the image of a ground pounding body designed to manipulate small instruments and tools for it's own purposes. If that is what God is, then what purpose do we serve for him?

What is the grand scheme, and what part is mankind to play in it?

Imagine if you will if humans ever evolved to the same sort of status as God. A race of people capable of living in the stars, manipulating entire solar systems to hold only the life which they dictate should be there. Imagine if such humans still hold the competitive grudges that they do today, and God shaped worlds are called to war with each other.

Imagine the God that wins, having shaped an army of intelligent creatures capable of shaping their own weapons. A race which becomes more dangerous with each generation.

Think about it. If God exists, and can see we are destroying a world which is his creation, why does he do nothing? I'll tell you why. Because with everything we destroy, we learn. Not how to fix it, but how we destroyed it. We craft weapons of war, now powerful enough to crack open entire worlds if concentrated enough. It's only a matter of time before we reach to the stars, and then, if this mysterious God in who's form we are crafted indeed exists, we will be drafted into service into whatever designs he has harboured since our very inception as a species.

Personally, I would rather believe that we evolved. It's much less frightening.
Wed 04/09/02 at 19:49
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One of the reasons i dont belive in God is that atthe beginning of the bible it says that God is angry with us and he`s gonna destroy everthing somethin and that was thousands of years ago.

I rest my case
Wed 04/09/02 at 18:46
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> Religion irritates me

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I agree. In fact, it doesn't just irritate me. People who are religious are the biggest bunch of arrogant gits ever.

"Evolution can't be possible. God is the only way blah blah big floods weren't ice caps melting GOD DID IT I'm related to Noah etc"
Wed 04/09/02 at 16:48
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Wed 04/09/02 at 16:44
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Wed 04/09/02 at 16:43
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Wed 04/09/02 at 16:42
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Wed 04/09/02 at 16:40
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I reckon that the problem with the second speaker is that his vision of God is too complex. He has created Him in his own image and has thus imposed his own values on Him. This leads to the circular argument that leads to him both denying God and accepting his existence. Instead the final section says that God isn't as complex as religions will make out; he doesn't have a set of rules and regulations; He is everywhere in the simplest things and by looking at Him simply his role can be understood, instead of personifying Him and creating a theological nightmare for yourself.
Wed 04/09/02 at 16:38
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Wed 04/09/02 at 16:36
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You do know if there was a second coming the person would be put in a mental home... and bend spoons because they're no lepers left to heal.

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Wed 04/09/02 at 16:35
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OK. I think that short story is trying to say "through the trials God puts you through, you will become a good and loving person", but to me it actually comes across as "God is an evil piece of work, and the sooner you stop thinking about him, the better you will be".

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