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Fri 30/08/02 at 15:39
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Just a quicky here...

Why do most ADSL providers like BTOpenworld, Freeola and Freserve charge £29.99 a month for ADSL connections when there are others like Pipex that only charge £23.44 a month.

What's the difference and if there isn't one, why don't Freeola make it cheaper?
Sat 31/08/02 at 20:43
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Turbonutter wrote:
> Most routers have built-in firewall, NAT and IP forwarding.

Is the firewall easily configurable - e.g. deny ports etc? Also, what is NAT? I've heard it before but never known what it means...

> There's stuff Linux can do that routers can't, unsurprisingly :)

Such as? Using my linux box is still an option...
Sat 31/08/02 at 20:37
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Nimco wrote:
> Is that easier? What about firewalls etc? Do you just have one per
> machine? Also, which PC does your IP address get sent to if you are on
> a network? e.g.:
>
> If my External IP Address is 172.186.12.87, and someone typed that in,
> can I set it to look for a web server on my network at address:
> 192.168.0.1 ?


Most routers have built-in firewall, NAT and IP forwarding. Seeing as routers are hubs themselves, they're all set up for networking. Andi's has a web-based interface (the router run a webserver on a certain port, which has admin stuff on it). However, I'm going to go for the cheaper "plug in to one machine as router" option, not because it's cheaper, but because I think it gives you more control. There's stuff Linux can do that routers can't, unsurprisingly :)
Sat 31/08/02 at 20:36
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Turbonutter wrote:
> It says on the BT website, all you need to do is register interest,
> not sign up for anything.

He's right ya know andi. I've already added a few fake numbers and it hasn't given any errors. They don't send any confirmation emails or phone calls coz otherwise I would have got one....
Sat 31/08/02 at 20:26
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Whooo! wrote:
> Won't work, BT will only install the BB gear in your exchange once a
> set number of people have actually signed up for broadband, not just
> registered their interest.


It says on the BT website, all you need to do is register interest, not sign up for anything.
Sat 31/08/02 at 20:25
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Whooo! wrote:
> PPPoA Routed


You use PPPoA? Is that like PPPoE (ethernet)? I've never seen the point in that.
Sat 31/08/02 at 20:16
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Whooo! wrote:
> If you get a router (like I've got, more expensive than a modem
> though..) then you just plug it into the hub, otherwise, you need to
> plug the modem into the PC and set the network up to use it as a
> gateway.

Is that easier? What about firewalls etc? Do you just have one per machine? Also, which PC does your IP address get sent to if you are on a network? e.g.:

If my External IP Address is 172.186.12.87, and someone typed that in, can I set it to look for a web server on my network at address: 192.168.0.1 ?
Sat 31/08/02 at 16:33
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"How Handy."
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Nimco wrote:
> OK, I'm campaigning to get Broadband for my town at the moment -
> should be about 6 months coz I intend to fake some preregistrations
> and I've already contacted the MP etc....


Won't work, BT will only install the BB gear in your exchange once a set number of people have actually signed up for broadband, not just registered their interest.


> Anyway, what I want to know is this: I have an old pc running :inux
> Mandrake 8.1 (P133Mhz, 32MB). I also have a small network with 3 PCs
> on (plus the linux box which I haven't put on the hub yet). If I get
> Broadband, can I feed it straight into the hub (5 Port Hub) or shall I
> put it through my Linux machine and leave that on permanently?

If you get a router (like I've got, more expensive than a modem though..) then you just plug it into the hub, otherwise, you need to plug the modem into the PC and set the network up to use it as a gateway.
Sat 31/08/02 at 14:06
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I heard that Demon are meant to be very good as an ISP.

They do ADSL for £24.99 a month, anybody know how good they are?
Sat 31/08/02 at 10:49
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OK, I'm campaigning to get Broadband for my town at the moment - should be about 6 months coz I intend to fake some preregistrations and I've already contacted the MP etc....

Anyway, what I want to know is this: I have an old pc running :inux Mandrake 8.1 (P133Mhz, 32MB). I also have a small network with 3 PCs on (plus the linux box which I haven't put on the hub yet). If I get Broadband, can I feed it straight into the hub (5 Port Hub) or shall I put it through my Linux machine and leave that on permanently?
Sat 31/08/02 at 01:01
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"How Handy."
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PPPoA Routed
Channel=01, Operation Mode= MRFC2364/Routed, VPI= 0, VCI= 38.
User Name: ******@xtreme.pipex.net.
Password: *******.
Encapsulation Mode : AUTO.
IP Address from Service Provider.
Startup : Enable.
DoD : Disable.
Use NAT, Auto Discovery Dns.

Taken straight from my router control thinghy.

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