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Fri 30/08/02 at 15:39
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Just a quicky here...

Why do most ADSL providers like BTOpenworld, Freeola and Freserve charge £29.99 a month for ADSL connections when there are others like Pipex that only charge £23.44 a month.

What's the difference and if there isn't one, why don't Freeola make it cheaper?
Sun 01/09/02 at 02:13
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"Devil in disguise"
Posts: 3,151
Nimco wrote:
> Whooo! wrote:
> Can't remember how much it is to upgrade an exchange, about
> £1m
> i think, and if your the only one with ADSL in your area, its gonna
> take a long time at £15 a month to cover their costs..
>
> Its not £1m! All they have to do is update their switching to
> digital so that it can handle higher traffic. They can do the upgrade
> in a matter of days

Yeah and those switches might cost 10000 pound each. :)
Well, was kinda curious myself so tried searching on the net. Was impossible to get a single figure of course, but seemingly exchange upgrades can cost between 100,000 and 1,000,000 depending on the size of the exchange and its age.
Sat 31/08/02 at 21:36
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Whooo! wrote:
> Can't remember how much it is to upgrade an exchange, about £1m
> i think, and if your the only one with ADSL in your area, its gonna
> take a long time at £15 a month to cover their costs..

Its not £1m! All they have to do is update their switching to digital so that it can handle higher traffic. They can do the upgrade in a matter of days
Sat 31/08/02 at 21:10
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"How Handy."
Posts: 2,631
Can't remember how much it is to upgrade an exchange, about £1m i think, and if your the only one with ADSL in your area, its gonna take a long time at £15 a month to cover their costs..
Sat 31/08/02 at 21:09
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"Eff, you see, kay?"
Posts: 14,156
Whooo! wrote:
> They might accept the interest, but they wont upgrade anything until
> they have solid orders, do you blame them?


Nope, because you can't place an order unless your exchange has been upgraded... the fact is, BT make a profit at 50 users. The trigger level is 400 users. Even including fakes, you do the maths.
Sat 31/08/02 at 21:08
Posts: 0
Whooo! wrote:
> They might accept the interest, but they wont upgrade anything until
> they have solid orders, do you blame them?

YES! They're crap!
Sat 31/08/02 at 21:06
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"How Handy."
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Nimco wrote:
> meh, I think I'll stick with a router. How much do they cost andi?

Mine was £160 i think...
Sat 31/08/02 at 21:04
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"How Handy."
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Turbonutter wrote:
> Whooo! wrote:
> Won't work, BT will only install the BB gear in your exchange once a
> set number of people have actually signed up for broadband, not just
> registered their interest.
>
>
> It says on the BT website, all you need to do is register interest,
> not sign up for anything.

They might accept the interest, but they wont upgrade anything until they have solid orders, do you blame them?
Sat 31/08/02 at 21:04
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"How Handy."
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Turbonutter wrote:
> Whooo! wrote:
> PPPoA Routed
>
>
> You use PPPoA? Is that like PPPoE (ethernet)? I've never seen the
> point in that.

Er yes, I dont choose, Pipex do..
Sat 31/08/02 at 20:54
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meh, I think I'll stick with a router. How much do they cost andi?
Sat 31/08/02 at 20:48
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"Eff, you see, kay?"
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Nimco wrote:
> Turbonutter wrote:
> Most routers have built-in firewall, NAT and IP forwarding.
>
> Is the firewall easily configurable - e.g. deny ports etc? Also, what
> is NAT? I've heard it before but never known what it means...

Network Address Translation, it's just a better version of Internet Connection Sharing. More powerful.

> There's stuff Linux can do that routers can't, unsurprisingly :)
>
> Such as? Using my linux box is still an option...

Aii, but you need da skillz :-)

Oh, traffic control, bandwidth management, stream prioritisation, restricting your dad to 2.3k/s, etc...

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