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Tue 27/08/02 at 20:59
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Well it was the last episode of Voyager on BB2 2 earlier tonight. I have to admit I am dismayed that this excellent series has come to an end, but at least it done so with style.

*if you have not seen it, and are bothered about what happened skip this part*

Well after Janeway came from the future to help get enterprise home earlier, and then help devise a method to get voyager back home AND kill the Borg, I am curious. The Borg queen stated while she was falling apart, from what would be the Borg equivelent of Parkinson's, that if the Borg cube, or in this instance a sphere, caught voyager and blew it up, then the actions of the Janeway from the future would be erased.

Therefore if Janeway were to die at some time between the borg being destroyed and janeway reaching the age at which "She" killed the borg, then her actions would be erased and the borg would once again be alive.

Is this correct?

*end of spoiler*
Tue 10/09/02 at 19:44
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What, your getting side tracked, you said we never see the Borg Queen die in End Game, all of my last post PROVED that she is dead!
Tue 10/09/02 at 18:46
"The Will of D."
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The film "First Contact" was based before all of the borg activity in ST: Voyager, the Borg Queen from the time before they went back in time was older than the new one in Voyager (notice the different actors?). See they do make another Queen once one is killed.
Tue 10/09/02 at 18:00
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Skarra wrote:
> Edgy wrote:-
> >Actually, there's nothing that actually indicates that that is
> where the >Borg Queen was when it happened. She could have been at
> the Borg's main >base of operations that was shown in an earlier
> episode.
>
> >After all, the Borg Queen controls all the Borg, why would she be
> at one >of the 6 stations that create artificial wormholes for Borg
> vessel >distribution?
>
> >Sure, that one of 6 stations was destroyed, but the Borg Queen
> still >survives - considering she goes back in time to enslave
> Earth before >first contact...
>
> >Anyone notice that two Star Trek actors are in the movie Reign of
> Fire?
>
> >Alexander Siddig, originally known as Siddig El Fadil (sp?) (plays
> >Julian >Bashir in DS9) played one of the British guys in the
> castle, and >the woman who plays the Borg Queen was the main
> character's mother at >the beginning.
>
> What the hell are you talking about. The Nexus is that big borg
> complex seven is taken to in Dark Frontier 1 & 2. It's also the
> place where Admiral Janeway goes, the place where she is assimilated,
> and the place where she and the Borg Queen are blown up, as a result
> of the pathagin. So,
> 1. The Queen is on board the Nexus.
> 2. Admiral Janeway goes through the Hub into the Uni-complex.
> 3. She speaks the Queeny with the Hologram thing.
> 4. The Borg triangulate where the shuttle is, and beam Admiral Janeway
> onto the Nexus.
> 5. Queen assimilates Janeway.
> 6. Borg become infected with pathagin.
> 7. Queen falls to bits.
> 8. Most links to the collective(other ships) are broken.
> 9. Nexus blows up, i doubt if a broken Queen could survive
> abliteration like that.
>
> So, yes, the Queen defenatly, certainy does die.

And the very same Queen gets killed by Lt. Commander Data in the future how?
Sat 07/09/02 at 08:09
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Edgy wrote:-
>Actually, there's nothing that actually indicates that that is where the >Borg Queen was when it happened. She could have been at the Borg's main >base of operations that was shown in an earlier episode.

>After all, the Borg Queen controls all the Borg, why would she be at one >of the 6 stations that create artificial wormholes for Borg vessel >distribution?

>Sure, that one of 6 stations was destroyed, but the Borg Queen still >survives - considering she goes back in time to enslave Earth before >first contact...

>Anyone notice that two Star Trek actors are in the movie Reign of Fire?

>Alexander Siddig, originally known as Siddig El Fadil (sp?) (plays >Julian >Bashir in DS9) played one of the British guys in the castle, and >the woman who plays the Borg Queen was the main character's mother at >the beginning.

What the hell are you talking about. The Nexus is that big borg complex seven is taken to in Dark Frontier 1 & 2. It's also the place where Admiral Janeway goes, the place where she is assimilated, and the place where she and the Borg Queen are blown up, as a result of the pathagin. So,
1. The Queen is on board the Nexus.
2. Admiral Janeway goes through the Hub into the Uni-complex.
3. She speaks the Queeny with the Hologram thing.
4. The Borg triangulate where the shuttle is, and beam Admiral Janeway onto the Nexus.
5. Queen assimilates Janeway.
6. Borg become infected with pathagin.
7. Queen falls to bits.
8. Most links to the collective(other ships) are broken.
9. Nexus blows up, i doubt if a broken Queen could survive abliteration like that.

So, yes, the Queen defenatly, certainy does die.
Thu 05/09/02 at 23:35
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That's very kind of you... :)
Thu 05/09/02 at 13:53
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Edgy wrote:
> Myst, I knew it was Channel 4 and S4C (in Wales) as opposed to BBC2 -
> I'm just so used to seeing Star Trek on BBC....
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Ok then. I'll let you off that one
:op
Tue 03/09/02 at 23:43
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Actually, there's nothing that actually indicates that that is where the Borg Queen was when it happened. She could have been at the Borg's main base of operations that was shown in an earlier episode.

After all, the Borg Queen controls all the Borg, why would she be at one of the 6 stations that create artificial wormholes for Borg vessel distribution?

Sure, that one of 6 stations was destroyed, but the Borg Queen still survives - considering she goes back in time to enslave Earth before first contact...

Anyone notice that two Star Trek actors are in the movie Reign of Fire?

Alexander Siddig, originally known as Siddig El Fadil (sp?) (plays Julian Bashir in DS9) played one of the British guys in the castle, and the woman who plays the Borg Queen was the main character's mother at the beginning.
Tue 03/09/02 at 20:41
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"Stay Frosty"
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If you follow Star Trek so closley, you should know that the Nexus(that she was one), got blown up. She died, she's dead and her nanites are floating in the D Quadrent.
Tue 03/09/02 at 20:02
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There was only one Borg Queen. Voyager didn't destroy her - just disabled her enough with the nano-virus so that Voyager could get home (relatively) safely.

The Borg are only controlled by the one Queen. Once she goes, the rest of the Borg are left in chaos. The Borg Queen was the heart and sould of the Borg. The leader that brought order to chaos and did everything in her power to find perfection - the Omega particles.

Ofcourse, she was destroyed in First Contact resulting in the end of the Borg - or atleast the end of the single-minded Borg. Being disconnected, the drones would adapt to such a way that they'd either regain some of their humanity, or designate a leader on each cube/sphere/etc who would keep the rest of the Borg in order.

Again, I follow Star Trek too closely...

Myst, I knew it was Channel 4 and S4C (in Wales) as opposed to BBC2 - I'm just so used to seeing Star Trek on BBC....
Tue 03/09/02 at 20:02
"The Will of D."
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Because they clone the nano's of the quenn to make an exact duplicate.

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