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Read your "defining moments" post and I've got to say I admire you for being honest and confronting a lot of crap.
All I can say is (and I know how phony this sounds), don't sweat it mate.
Been in the same boat as you when I was at school and it improves one hundred fold when you leave.
These people that make you feel low, they aren't your friends.
Friends don't do that to each other, this JAR tool needs to realise that and either act like a friend or go back to phony posturing to appear cool.
I went through similar times at school trying to avoid bullies, I'd miss the train just to get some peace and quiet. Nothing I could do about on the way home though,so just suffer the torments and go home.
The thing to remember here is nothing that you feel bad about is to do with you.
So what if you aren't the most popular kid in school?
So what if you aren't the fastest/strongest?
It doesn't matter outside of the protection of school-world.
What you need to remember is school is filled with people that can't get by on their brains so they need to try and act "cool".
Which usually means singling out the "different" kids and hassling them.
It will change though, be it college or job or Uni, because by that point, only the people that want to be there, are there.
I know it's easy to say "just get through it", because I know how rubbish that sounds.
But I can't tell you how much there is outside of school just waiting for you to grab hold of and enjoy.
Girls tell you you're cute? Enjoy it, don't question.
And if "mates" laugh at you, so what?
They're not mates, they're using you to make themselves feel less guilty about their failings in life.
It's easier to mock someone else for not being the same than it is to take responsibility for your own mistake.
The most important thing is to not take anything anyone says to heart.
Because only you know you. They insult you? Big deal, it only matters if you respect those people.
And by the sounds of it, you don't. Nor should you.
I've gone from being the quietest, shyest, most introverted kid in the class to being who I am today. I'm happy, have good mates, enjoy my life and play in a fantastic band with no worries about "the ladies".
There's no reason why you shouldn't be exactly the same.
Well...maybe not exactly the same, one Goatboy is enough for this world but you get my drift.
Doesn't matter how cool or hip your mates think they are, I bet from now until the day they serve you burgers, they'll never express one tenth of the emotions or honesty you do.
Which makes you the biggest man out of all of them
Good on you mate, keep plowing through it and wait for the rewards because they definitely find their way to those that deserve it.
All I can say is (and I know how phony this sounds), don't sweat it mate.
Been in the same boat as you when I was at school and it improves one hundred fold when you leave.
These people that make you feel low, they aren't your friends.
Friends don't do that to each other, this JAR tool needs to realise that and either act like a friend or go back to phony posturing to appear cool.
I went through similar times at school trying to avoid bullies, I'd miss the train just to get some peace and quiet. Nothing I could do about on the way home though,so just suffer the torments and go home.
The thing to remember here is nothing that you feel bad about is to do with you.
So what if you aren't the most popular kid in school?
So what if you aren't the fastest/strongest?
It doesn't matter outside of the protection of school-world.
What you need to remember is school is filled with people that can't get by on their brains so they need to try and act "cool".
Which usually means singling out the "different" kids and hassling them.
It will change though, be it college or job or Uni, because by that point, only the people that want to be there, are there.
I know it's easy to say "just get through it", because I know how rubbish that sounds.
But I can't tell you how much there is outside of school just waiting for you to grab hold of and enjoy.
Girls tell you you're cute? Enjoy it, don't question.
And if "mates" laugh at you, so what?
They're not mates, they're using you to make themselves feel less guilty about their failings in life.
It's easier to mock someone else for not being the same than it is to take responsibility for your own mistake.
The most important thing is to not take anything anyone says to heart.
Because only you know you. They insult you? Big deal, it only matters if you respect those people.
And by the sounds of it, you don't. Nor should you.
I've gone from being the quietest, shyest, most introverted kid in the class to being who I am today. I'm happy, have good mates, enjoy my life and play in a fantastic band with no worries about "the ladies".
There's no reason why you shouldn't be exactly the same.
Well...maybe not exactly the same, one Goatboy is enough for this world but you get my drift.
Doesn't matter how cool or hip your mates think they are, I bet from now until the day they serve you burgers, they'll never express one tenth of the emotions or honesty you do.
Which makes you the biggest man out of all of them
Good on you mate, keep plowing through it and wait for the rewards because they definitely find their way to those that deserve it.
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Dr Duck wrote:
> I don't think you need to change, just get through.
>
> Huge respect to you for the post in the defining moments thread.
>
> Good luck :^)
Cheers Ducky. Maybe it would help if some of you older ones do an extract into the topic, and maybe tell us how you got through school if you were the victim or cowards (bullies...). Or, maybe if you were a bully yourself, it'd be cool to see why you bullied.
D Dubyaa!
> I don't think you need to change, just get through.
>
> Huge respect to you for the post in the defining moments thread.
>
> Good luck :^)
Cheers Ducky. Maybe it would help if some of you older ones do an extract into the topic, and maybe tell us how you got through school if you were the victim or cowards (bullies...). Or, maybe if you were a bully yourself, it'd be cool to see why you bullied.
D Dubyaa!
I don't think you need to change, just get through.
Huge respect to you for the post in the defining moments thread.
Good luck :^)
Huge respect to you for the post in the defining moments thread.
Good luck :^)
Cheers for that Goaty...and the rest of you who added some. I had a long inspiring convo with Ben last night...and, even though people still = s*!*, I( realise that there is only two years to go, and that things WILL improve. Maybe I'll see that even though life sucks, it is worth living. Maybe on September 20th, I will have changed...like proper changed...
D Dubyaa
D Dubyaa
Oi, Dubyaa, get on msn.
It's funny how it works out, but you Inevitably find that people who deal with that kind of torment (like me once) go on to become worth while human beings.
I mean that in terms of people will actually see the worth in knowing you. It's just that you reached that plateau a bit too soon for the meat heads to comprehend.
The meat heads on the other hand, more often than not end up uttering the lines 'do you wan't fries with that?' or spend the rest of their life trying not to drop the soap, at Her Majesty's pleasure.
I mean that in terms of people will actually see the worth in knowing you. It's just that you reached that plateau a bit too soon for the meat heads to comprehend.
The meat heads on the other hand, more often than not end up uttering the lines 'do you wan't fries with that?' or spend the rest of their life trying not to drop the soap, at Her Majesty's pleasure.
> He speaks the truth, Neitzsche wrote: "What doesn't kill me can
> only make me stronger", but he was an opium-addled German
> philosopher with a penchant for rambling incoherently for hours on
> end; so take everything he says with a pinch of salt.
Neitzsche also wrote "god is dead", but now Neitzsche is dead and I bet god is laughing his head off.
> only make me stronger", but he was an opium-addled German
> philosopher with a penchant for rambling incoherently for hours on
> end; so take everything he says with a pinch of salt.
Neitzsche also wrote "god is dead", but now Neitzsche is dead and I bet god is laughing his head off.
SHEEPY wrote:
> I rock... and it sounds stupid but it takes crap experiences to bring
> out your own self and usually makes you a better person.
He speaks the truth, Neitzsche wrote: "What doesn't kill me can only make me stronger", but he was an opium-addled German philosopher with a penchant for rambling incoherently for hours on end; so take everything he says with a pinch of salt.
But Sheepy was spot on :-)
> I rock... and it sounds stupid but it takes crap experiences to bring
> out your own self and usually makes you a better person.
He speaks the truth, Neitzsche wrote: "What doesn't kill me can only make me stronger", but he was an opium-addled German philosopher with a penchant for rambling incoherently for hours on end; so take everything he says with a pinch of salt.
But Sheepy was spot on :-)
It's a cliché but you really don't know what's around the corner, and your life could improve drastically in a matter of seconds because of some freak event, you just have to stick it out until something does happen.
I mean my life was fairly uneventful, and I had a few bullying episodes, then I got laid and met Dave Grohl on the same day. And that rocked :-)
Besides most bullies end up washed up drop outs as soon as they enter the real world where people don't care about them anymore. One guy who I really didn't like has sunk to the depths of studying leisure management, where he can look forward to the joys of maybe one day running a sports centre. I bet he didn't meet Dave Grohl :-)
Always something around the corner... so don't let it get you down. Try reading "Ham on Rye" by Charles Bukowski, he had the same problems and he's also got the answer to solving them. Plus it's a good read.
I mean my life was fairly uneventful, and I had a few bullying episodes, then I got laid and met Dave Grohl on the same day. And that rocked :-)
Besides most bullies end up washed up drop outs as soon as they enter the real world where people don't care about them anymore. One guy who I really didn't like has sunk to the depths of studying leisure management, where he can look forward to the joys of maybe one day running a sports centre. I bet he didn't meet Dave Grohl :-)
Always something around the corner... so don't let it get you down. Try reading "Ham on Rye" by Charles Bukowski, he had the same problems and he's also got the answer to solving them. Plus it's a good read.
Goatboy knows everything.
I was in same position in first few years of Secondary... I would get bullied because I was smart... got beaten up to give them my homework... got stuff thrown at me. I never did anything to deserve it and managed just to pull through... got new, proper friends... started to build confidence and be myself.
So where am I now?
Going into sixth year feeling the best in my life... great exam results while morons left to start fires or something. Got great mates of both sexes... I'm now apparently 'like soooo cool' and stuff.
I rock... and it sounds stupid but it takes crap experiences to bring out your own self and usually makes you a better person.
So stick in there.
I was in same position in first few years of Secondary... I would get bullied because I was smart... got beaten up to give them my homework... got stuff thrown at me. I never did anything to deserve it and managed just to pull through... got new, proper friends... started to build confidence and be myself.
So where am I now?
Going into sixth year feeling the best in my life... great exam results while morons left to start fires or something. Got great mates of both sexes... I'm now apparently 'like soooo cool' and stuff.
I rock... and it sounds stupid but it takes crap experiences to bring out your own self and usually makes you a better person.
So stick in there.
Nice one Goatboy!
I've just been talking to him on MSN and telling him basically the same type of thing but you have summed it up in one post.
I remember when I was 14 and I had to battle against people like he describes. As you said though, I came through and now I am a better person.
It seems like a long time away but by the time you are at college you will have forgotten all this crap and will be living an entirely different life. School is hard but it is rewarding. You learn so much about people and life it is unbelieveable.
Bear with it D Dubyaa. It's gonna get a whole lot better! :-)
I've just been talking to him on MSN and telling him basically the same type of thing but you have summed it up in one post.
I remember when I was 14 and I had to battle against people like he describes. As you said though, I came through and now I am a better person.
It seems like a long time away but by the time you are at college you will have forgotten all this crap and will be living an entirely different life. School is hard but it is rewarding. You learn so much about people and life it is unbelieveable.
Bear with it D Dubyaa. It's gonna get a whole lot better! :-)
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