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These are just the sort of figures that Bill Gates does not want to hear. Japan has the largest videogame base in the world and anyone who say's they are not worried about sales figures in Japan are lying. With over million PS2 units sold since its launch and 3 million in the last 4 months this is a massive market to conceded ground on. Xbox has never really recovered from it's scratching disc problem and the fact the Xbox is to big and clumsy for the Japanese market. GC is also in a spot of bother in its homeland with only 475,000 sales in the last 4 months, lack of software and more importantly no dvd capability have cost Nintendo dearly and there are rumours that the GC could be Nintendo's last console.
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Insane Bartender wrote:
> And DVD capacity, heh, the DVD player on the PS2 is crap, I know of
> no-one who uses it as their standard DVD player.
In its defence - I think the DVD player is perfectly acceptable. It compares favorably to my high-end dedicated player.
> The future of Sony in the console industry is safe enough for now, but
> look ahead, and life paints you a very different picture.
My crystal ball must be broken, because I'm sure the future cannot be seen, merely speculated about.
In my vision of the future, the world is controlled by a single giant computer, which tries to wipe out humanity by sending an army of killer robots after us, thereby rendering games consoles obsolete. Maybe I should make a film about it.
> And DVD capacity, heh, the DVD player on the PS2 is crap, I know of
> no-one who uses it as their standard DVD player.
In its defence - I think the DVD player is perfectly acceptable. It compares favorably to my high-end dedicated player.
> The future of Sony in the console industry is safe enough for now, but
> look ahead, and life paints you a very different picture.
My crystal ball must be broken, because I'm sure the future cannot be seen, merely speculated about.
In my vision of the future, the world is controlled by a single giant computer, which tries to wipe out humanity by sending an army of killer robots after us, thereby rendering games consoles obsolete. Maybe I should make a film about it.
If Apple made a console........
*breathes in*
*looks down*
*runs to loo*
*breathes in*
*looks down*
*runs to loo*
Techno freak wrote:
> Yes because it has the best library of games and dvd capability,
Firstly: it's been out longer, and so a larger games library is quite obvious, once the other 2 consoles have been out for 2 years, I would stagger a guess that they will also boast impressive game lineups. Fool.
And DVD capacity, heh, the DVD player on the PS2 is crap, I know of no-one who uses it as their standard DVD player.
> but I
> have also got a GC which I am impressed with in terms of graphics like
> the meteor field in Star Wars, and the handset at first seemed a bit
> weird, but now feels very comfortable. I just worry with the slow
> sales and lack of quality titles,
lack of quality titles? a stunning percentage of the games available for GC fall in the category I would label "quality titles", and with dozens more of the same standard coming our way, you can certainly expect a decent "games library" sufficient enough to turn heads within a few months time.
> that comments like "This could
> be Nintendo's last console" might not be so far fetch and it
> does not instill confidence in someone who is planning or bought one
> that there might not be GC2 especially in the light of Dreamcast
> demise.
Who cares if there isn't a GC2? Who cares if there isn't a PS3 or an XBOX2? Who cares? At the end of the day, the console market is changing, and although there may be next generation consoles like a PS3, the generation following that will be produced by the likes of IBM, HP and apple, because the market is moving towards more PC style application.
The future of Sony in the console industry is safe enough for now, but look ahead, and life paints you a very different picture.
> Yes because it has the best library of games and dvd capability,
Firstly: it's been out longer, and so a larger games library is quite obvious, once the other 2 consoles have been out for 2 years, I would stagger a guess that they will also boast impressive game lineups. Fool.
And DVD capacity, heh, the DVD player on the PS2 is crap, I know of no-one who uses it as their standard DVD player.
> but I
> have also got a GC which I am impressed with in terms of graphics like
> the meteor field in Star Wars, and the handset at first seemed a bit
> weird, but now feels very comfortable. I just worry with the slow
> sales and lack of quality titles,
lack of quality titles? a stunning percentage of the games available for GC fall in the category I would label "quality titles", and with dozens more of the same standard coming our way, you can certainly expect a decent "games library" sufficient enough to turn heads within a few months time.
> that comments like "This could
> be Nintendo's last console" might not be so far fetch and it
> does not instill confidence in someone who is planning or bought one
> that there might not be GC2 especially in the light of Dreamcast
> demise.
Who cares if there isn't a GC2? Who cares if there isn't a PS3 or an XBOX2? Who cares? At the end of the day, the console market is changing, and although there may be next generation consoles like a PS3, the generation following that will be produced by the likes of IBM, HP and apple, because the market is moving towards more PC style application.
The future of Sony in the console industry is safe enough for now, but look ahead, and life paints you a very different picture.
Like i said in other posts, Nintendo and MS are just fighting to stay alive right now. They cant take on Sony from where they are. They are just scratching around for the few users who didn't get a PS2 and don't wan't a PS2 (plus a handful that have more than one machine). Both will shift more machines during Xmas 02, but so will Sony. So it wont make much difference anyway. Rather ironic MS is talking about future projects like XBox 2, 3, and 4. This is just to persuade us that they are not concerned about the number of Xbox machines out there, which is rubbish. The are concerned, as will be Nintendo. MS might well speak up a long term game, but equally there is a chance that the Xbox or GC may ultimately get the axe - due to poor numbers.
Personally, I'm not worried. Nintendo have always surprised me. Remember when they said they were gonna release the M32 and then, all of a sudden, the N64? And then there was Rareware's surprise release of Diddy Kong Racing. Nintendo and their games developers always bring up the goods, so I'm happy for now.
ShadowDragon wrote:
> Techno freak wrote:
> If this subject was so uninteresting why are you even taking the
> time
> to reply too it.
>
> I didn't say it was uninteresting. Besides, this topic has been raised
> many times before so it is starting to get annoying. By the way, what
> console do you like the best? From what I have seen so far, I would
> hazard a guess at the Playstation 2.
Yes because it has the best library of games and dvd capability, but I have also got a GC which I am impressed with in terms of graphics like the meteor field in Star Wars, and the handset at first seemed a bit weird, but now feels very comfortable. I just worry with the slow sales and lack of quality titles, that comments like "This could be Nintendo's last console" might not be so far fetch and it does not instill confidence in someone who is planning or bought one that there might not be GC2 especially in the light of Dreamcast demise.
> Techno freak wrote:
> If this subject was so uninteresting why are you even taking the
> time
> to reply too it.
>
> I didn't say it was uninteresting. Besides, this topic has been raised
> many times before so it is starting to get annoying. By the way, what
> console do you like the best? From what I have seen so far, I would
> hazard a guess at the Playstation 2.
Yes because it has the best library of games and dvd capability, but I have also got a GC which I am impressed with in terms of graphics like the meteor field in Star Wars, and the handset at first seemed a bit weird, but now feels very comfortable. I just worry with the slow sales and lack of quality titles, that comments like "This could be Nintendo's last console" might not be so far fetch and it does not instill confidence in someone who is planning or bought one that there might not be GC2 especially in the light of Dreamcast demise.
Techno freak wrote:
> If this subject was so uninteresting why are you even taking the time
> to reply too it.
I didn't say it was uninteresting. Besides, this topic has been raised many times before so it is starting to get annoying. By the way, what console do you like the best? From what I have seen so far, I would hazard a guess at the Playstation 2.
> If this subject was so uninteresting why are you even taking the time
> to reply too it.
I didn't say it was uninteresting. Besides, this topic has been raised many times before so it is starting to get annoying. By the way, what console do you like the best? From what I have seen so far, I would hazard a guess at the Playstation 2.
I dont know if anyone has been into Dixons lately, but they have got this new brochure out introducing people to the benefits of each of the 3 consoles. One of the catagories include "Number of games released" And for the PS2 it has 500, with an Asterisk next to it. If you check the asterisk it says "Including PS1 games" What a cop out.
Techno freak wrote:
> ShadowDragon wrote:
> Techno freak wrote:
> PS2 sells 3x the amount of Gamecube consoles in the last 4months is
> not anything to be concerned about!!!!
>
> The GameCube hasn't been out as long as the PS2 has. The GameCube
> can't play it's predessor's games. The GameCube doesn't have many
> games out yet. By Christmas, the GameCube will have an impressive
> line-up of games. I don't think there's anything to worry about.
> Apart
> from spam topics trying to flame console wars.
>
> If this subject was so uninteresting why are you even taking the time
> to reply too it.
I can't really speak for SD, but I believe it was to settle this before it got worse.
> ShadowDragon wrote:
> Techno freak wrote:
> PS2 sells 3x the amount of Gamecube consoles in the last 4months is
> not anything to be concerned about!!!!
>
> The GameCube hasn't been out as long as the PS2 has. The GameCube
> can't play it's predessor's games. The GameCube doesn't have many
> games out yet. By Christmas, the GameCube will have an impressive
> line-up of games. I don't think there's anything to worry about.
> Apart
> from spam topics trying to flame console wars.
>
> If this subject was so uninteresting why are you even taking the time
> to reply too it.
I can't really speak for SD, but I believe it was to settle this before it got worse.
ShadowDragon wrote:
> Techno freak wrote:
> PS2 sells 3x the amount of Gamecube consoles in the last 4months is
> not anything to be concerned about!!!!
>
> The GameCube hasn't been out as long as the PS2 has. The GameCube
> can't play it's predessor's games. The GameCube doesn't have many
> games out yet. By Christmas, the GameCube will have an impressive
> line-up of games. I don't think there's anything to worry about. Apart
> from spam topics trying to flame console wars.
If this subject was so uninteresting why are you even taking the time to reply too it.
> Techno freak wrote:
> PS2 sells 3x the amount of Gamecube consoles in the last 4months is
> not anything to be concerned about!!!!
>
> The GameCube hasn't been out as long as the PS2 has. The GameCube
> can't play it's predessor's games. The GameCube doesn't have many
> games out yet. By Christmas, the GameCube will have an impressive
> line-up of games. I don't think there's anything to worry about. Apart
> from spam topics trying to flame console wars.
If this subject was so uninteresting why are you even taking the time to reply too it.
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