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Wed 17/07/02 at 18:05
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Right, i'm ready to set off on my mission to try Linux, i'm looking forward to it a lot more now, I was thinking i'd have to dual-boot Windows and Linux for certain programs like flash and Photoshop but after researching a little I found a program called WineX, nice program although I still don't know much about it but it allows you to run Windows products straight off Linux.
That and the fact that i've got a copy of openoffice.org
woooo, even though i'll probably use MS Office for database's and misc word processing. I can also run some games off it too! yipee.

Anyway, I was pondering and other than making websites on my PC I like to listen to music and watch movies but i'm not sure of any download programs or p2p programs like KaZaA on Linux, so I was hoping someone might have an idea :)
I'd run KaZaA but i'd like to use as many Linux products as possible.
Sat 20/07/02 at 20:48
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Ok, cheers, I saw a screenshot of Mandrake, it had a start menu type thing with other Windows type icons/menus where as other screenshots looked very OSX either way I don't care, fast is best, people in the mag talk more about KDE than GNOME I just had no idea what they were talking about :D they don't go into any detail as most people reading the mag have at least looked at Linux :)
Sat 20/07/02 at 20:21
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Fog wrote:
> GNOME or KDE? once again, i've got no idea, how do I find out? isn't
> this a part of the distro? or do you have to install it as part of the
> OS? Whch one is better? KDE?

these are the two most popular graphical interfaces for linux. in a way, they're like themes - but more than just colours change. i wud recommend kde, as it has a more windows like interface....
Sat 20/07/02 at 17:32
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he he, thanks both of you.
I've got Debian Potato, got it from the Linux Emporium, very nice, it's 2.2.5r or something, do newer version install ontop of it? i'm guessing they would do.
All I see online and in mags are SUSE and Mandrake but Debian was recommended, what else can I say. (I only got one disc, the OS)

It's cool that OpenOffice.org reads MS Office files, thanks and yes, it is 1.0, it says it's the first stable version, erm even though 1.0 kinda gives it away. :)

gFTP...i've got absolutly no idea what this is *loads Google*

GNOME or KDE? once again, i've got no idea, how do I find out? isn't this a part of the distro? or do you have to install it as part of the OS? Whch one is better? KDE?

I think Linux will suit me though, at the moment i've got loads of free time, I really want to learn Linux, hopefully it will help me a lot and most of the software is free! which suits me fine.
I actually hadn't heard of Linux until you left Microsoft for it :) and it's not until recently that I found it does more than just scripting, i'mjust happy that I can use photoshop and Flash although new software is nice.
Sat 20/07/02 at 01:30
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Fog wrote:
> One more question, what FTP would you recommend? you nudged me towards
> WS_lite, tis a good program, i'm also using 1stPage's FTP, which seems
> alright.
> I've got absolutly no idea about Linux software, they don't make a
> habit of advertising it and I guess because most of it is Freeware
> they can't really afford to like Windows Software producers can.
> Hopefully i'll learn a bit more as time goes on.

gFTP is very nice, but I need to know - are you using GNOME or KDE?

Oh, and I cannot stress this enough: *ALWAYS* use latest versions of software, the stuff on the 4-or-so discs you got with your distro is ancient, really amazingly ancient. If you don't use latest versions you'll think everything's crap, because, well, old stuff is crap.
Sat 20/07/02 at 01:26
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Fog wrote:
> OpenOffice.org - it certainly does look good, what filetypes do they
> save as? I doubt i'll be able to use these files on Word if I need
> them for work will I?

Sure, anything Word/Excel/PowerPoint creates it can read, and you have the option to save in these formats as well.

> Quanta+ - i've already downloaded it, you say it's the equivelent of
> 1stPage, that sounds good enough to me as other than Notepad in FTP
> it's all I use.
> terminal - i've got no idea what this is, sounds intresting though,
> i'm gonna take a wild guess that it's the Linux OS?? i'm probably
> completely wrong but i've seen theres quite a lot to do on it, i've
> been looking at Kernel patches and upgrades.

Run "kterm" or "xterm", you'll see

> LimeWire - I didn't know this was on Linux, nice.
> gtk-gnutella - aaahhhh, I forgot about this, heard nothing but good
> things about it.

CVS CVS CVS!!!

> rpmfind.net - I've been reading 'Linux Format' to get a better idea of
> Linux, the problem pages (especially from newbies) seem to dread
> installing and rpms although the magazine says they're quite helpful,
> I guess i'll have to make my own opinions on them.
> Galeon & Mozilla - i've got both of these programs, you say Galeon
> is a good thing, everyone uses Mozilla on Linux (so it seems) it's
> like the MS IE of Linux, which also sounds good to me.
>
> I only got OpenOffice.org because it came free with linux Format along
> with loads of other tools which have intrigued me and i'm looking
> forward to getting started with it even though i've been warned about
> installing on linux, it's all part n parcel of using it, should be
> very intresting.

Ah, 1.0 then, good.

>
> My biggest problem at the moment is finding a router so i can get a
> connection in my room...muwahaha
>
> Anyway, i'm only installing Linux on the PC if all fails i'll try to
> use it just as a server but i'm hoping it will be fun, you and Luke
> seem to enjoy it, don't see why other people can't. :)

Well, luke's getting a bit annoyed at it now for some reason, but I like it a lot. S'changed the way I work, yadayadayada, but that's the truth.
Fri 19/07/02 at 19:27
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A distro is just a different version of Linux, for example, Debian, or Redhat.
Fri 19/07/02 at 18:47
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..erm, 1 more question :D
*cough* whats a distro? i've heard about them, but all the information i've found is at best, a little vague.
Valhalla? *shrugs*
Fri 19/07/02 at 12:56
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One more question, what FTP would you recommend? you nudged me towards WS_lite, tis a good program, i'm also using 1stPage's FTP, which seems alright.
I've got absolutly no idea about Linux software, they don't make a habit of advertising it and I guess because most of it is Freeware they can't really afford to like Windows Software producers can.
Hopefully i'll learn a bit more as time goes on.
Fri 19/07/02 at 10:44
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Also, i've only just started using 'The Gimp' on Windows, it's actually a nice program, I was just a little worried because I like the layouts to stay...'Windowsy' The Gimp has a lots of windows which can get quite annoying :)
Fri 19/07/02 at 10:41
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OpenOffice.org - it certainly does look good, what filetypes do they save as? I doubt i'll be able to use these files on Word if I need them for work will I?
Quanta+ - i've already downloaded it, you say it's the equivelent of 1stPage, that sounds good enough to me as other than Notepad in FTP it's all I use.
terminal - i've got no idea what this is, sounds intresting though, i'm gonna take a wild guess that it's the Linux OS?? i'm probably completely wrong but i've seen theres quite a lot to do on it, i've been looking at Kernel patches and upgrades.
LimeWire - I didn't know this was on Linux, nice.
gtk-gnutella - aaahhhh, I forgot about this, heard nothing but good things about it.
rpmfind.net - I've been reading 'Linux Format' to get a better idea of Linux, the problem pages (especially from newbies) seem to dread installing and rpms although the magazine says they're quite helpful, I guess i'll have to make my own opinions on them.
Galeon & Mozilla - i've got both of these programs, you say Galeon is a good thing, everyone uses Mozilla on Linux (so it seems) it's like the MS IE of Linux, which also sounds good to me.

I only got OpenOffice.org because it came free with linux Format along with loads of other tools which have intrigued me and i'm looking forward to getting started with it even though i've been warned about installing on linux, it's all part n parcel of using it, should be very intresting.

My biggest problem at the moment is finding a router so i can get a connection in my room...muwahaha

Anyway, i'm only installing Linux on the PC if all fails i'll try to use it just as a server but i'm hoping it will be fun, you and Luke seem to enjoy it, don't see why other people can't. :)

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