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From a review of "Pikmin" on IGN:
"That said, it becomes extremely important to take care of your Pikmin because of the tight 30 day schedule. Unfortunately, in game time each day is only about 15-20 minutes long depending on cut-scenes and pauses. So in the main adventure only amounts to about 10-12 hours of gameplay. This is perhaps Pikmin's biggest flaw. It rushes you through these lush environments forcing you to complete the game in about 10-12 hours. Ever worse the last two of the five environments are absolutely spectacular, packed with puzzles, and we need not spoil the awesome last boss for you. Why is that a bad thing? Simply because you don't want it to end. Pikmin is such a fresh, new kind of experience and you are rushed through it."
So it forces you to finish in about 10hrs?
Balls to that.
I think I wasted my money on a Gamecube to be honest, Star Wars is good but I've done it and the Monkey Ball thing is simplicity itself.
And nowt being released I want.
That'll learn me to ignore my instinct and return to my own vomit.
"That said, it becomes extremely important to take care of your Pikmin because of the tight 30 day schedule. Unfortunately, in game time each day is only about 15-20 minutes long depending on cut-scenes and pauses. So in the main adventure only amounts to about 10-12 hours of gameplay. This is perhaps Pikmin's biggest flaw. It rushes you through these lush environments forcing you to complete the game in about 10-12 hours. Ever worse the last two of the five environments are absolutely spectacular, packed with puzzles, and we need not spoil the awesome last boss for you. Why is that a bad thing? Simply because you don't want it to end. Pikmin is such a fresh, new kind of experience and you are rushed through it."
So it forces you to finish in about 10hrs?
Balls to that.
I think I wasted my money on a Gamecube to be honest, Star Wars is good but I've done it and the Monkey Ball thing is simplicity itself.
And nowt being released I want.
That'll learn me to ignore my instinct and return to my own vomit.
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"Would be" that is.
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Just read your last post, fair enough, everyone likes what they like. Can't argue that.
(Just wondering, when you posted that title, was you lauging? Thinking about how many people would get worked up about it? I know I would)
(Just wondering, when you posted that title, was you lauging? Thinking about how many people would get worked up about it? I know I would)
Fair enough being "forced" to finish the game in ten hours does seem a little harsh but the same can be said you average racing game. You need to finish the race in what 3-5 minutes to ensure a win? Add all that up and it's going to pretty short if you compare it like that.
You can argue it will be trial and error but Pikmin would be the same, you won't complete every level first time, you'll have to have at least a few attempts at each level before you get the general idea of what to do.
Anyway, I read the point of Pikmin was it's replay value, wanting to play through a game again once you've finished is a rare thing. Pikmin apparently gives insentive for this.
You can argue it will be trial and error but Pikmin would be the same, you won't complete every level first time, you'll have to have at least a few attempts at each level before you get the general idea of what to do.
Anyway, I read the point of Pikmin was it's replay value, wanting to play through a game again once you've finished is a rare thing. Pikmin apparently gives insentive for this.
Fair points IB, however I am stating my opinon for my preferences and therefore, for me, I am right.
I'm not a Nintendo fan at all, but I swallowed my loathing and bought one anyway, just in case.
Since I've had it, I've played it maybe long enough to complete Star Wars and I just can't be bothered with Monkey Ball.
I'm not saying Nintendo are crap,I'm saying that for my likes and wants, they don't deliver.
But I tried one rather than just moan without trying.
I'm not a Nintendo fan at all, but I swallowed my loathing and bought one anyway, just in case.
Since I've had it, I've played it maybe long enough to complete Star Wars and I just can't be bothered with Monkey Ball.
I'm not saying Nintendo are crap,I'm saying that for my likes and wants, they don't deliver.
But I tried one rather than just moan without trying.
Heh - so you obviously havn't tried errm ..... or ........ ermmm.......
What is there to complain about?
I completed mystical ninja in about 8 hours (straight, since my memory card wasn't working at the time).
Games like R-Type took a stunning hour to complete at best, Tekken 3 takes about 5 minutes on a bad day.
10-12 hours to complete - assuming you don't go wrong and have to restart/redo parts of it. And assuming 2 hours a day of gameplay with a 50% trial and error retry, it'll take you 9 days to get through. Given what I've heard, you'll go through it again, to see what you missed first time round, being more thorough, but more experienced, this will likely again take 9 days.
And apparently it has lots of replay value, so perhaps will be played again and again.
Compared to Rogue Leader, which I completed in less than 3 days, I'd say that's a bargain, and I have yet to complete Monkey Ball expert mode, much less the stupid hard mode that needs to be unlocked afterward.
I'm more than happy with my GameCube, and at the price it came for, I didn't even feel the fiscal pinch.
If you're going to give up on the GameCube after about 2 months, imagine if XBOX and PS2 owners had the same mentality. How many would still own their consoles? Very few i'd imagine.
Make like a doctor and get some patience.
IB
I completed mystical ninja in about 8 hours (straight, since my memory card wasn't working at the time).
Games like R-Type took a stunning hour to complete at best, Tekken 3 takes about 5 minutes on a bad day.
10-12 hours to complete - assuming you don't go wrong and have to restart/redo parts of it. And assuming 2 hours a day of gameplay with a 50% trial and error retry, it'll take you 9 days to get through. Given what I've heard, you'll go through it again, to see what you missed first time round, being more thorough, but more experienced, this will likely again take 9 days.
And apparently it has lots of replay value, so perhaps will be played again and again.
Compared to Rogue Leader, which I completed in less than 3 days, I'd say that's a bargain, and I have yet to complete Monkey Ball expert mode, much less the stupid hard mode that needs to be unlocked afterward.
I'm more than happy with my GameCube, and at the price it came for, I didn't even feel the fiscal pinch.
If you're going to give up on the GameCube after about 2 months, imagine if XBOX and PS2 owners had the same mentality. How many would still own their consoles? Very few i'd imagine.
Make like a doctor and get some patience.
IB
I can expect a game that doesn't *force* you to finish in 10hrs.
I'm playing Soldier of Fortune 2 and that lasts an age.
I'm playing Soldier of Fortune 2 and that lasts an age.
You can't expect good games every pay check you know.
Well I DID warn you. :o)
I said if there's not too many games you fancy around launch, wait till it's been out a year, then see.
But did you listen?
Kids hey?
Punk.
:op
Anyways, I'm finding plenty to keep me busy, but each to his own.
I said if there's not too many games you fancy around launch, wait till it's been out a year, then see.
But did you listen?
Kids hey?
Punk.
:op
Anyways, I'm finding plenty to keep me busy, but each to his own.
10 hours is about average for completing a game across all formats. Metal Gear 2...Devil May Cry...just a couple I can think of right now...
Developers cant be spending too much time and money on making all games really really long as profits are being hit in this time of big competition.
Developers cant be spending too much time and money on making all games really really long as profits are being hit in this time of big competition.
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