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In whom do you ask?
Nintendo!
How many times have we heard Nintendo complain that the games industry is DOOMED! That there’s no originality and that the games industry is just gonna crash and burn because of it. I’m getting quite sick of them going on about it. Just get on with releasing some games will ya!!! ORIGINAL ONES TO, as you keep yammering on about em!
So far we’ve had Wave Race. Though a fantastic game, well not everyone thought so. I’ve just got sommin’ about water, and so I LUV this game. But generally it was just an update to the N64 one, using mostly the same tracks, just with a few new bits. They could have done a lot more to it, and a lot of people complained that the background detail wasn’t as good as it could have been, and that’s true.
And there’s been Smash Brothers. Though another great game, it is yet again another N64 update. So where’s the original ones???
Well there’s Pikmin. Lemmings with plant creatures. It’s an alright game even thought it’s a bit short. I suppose it shows Nintendo’s willingness to try something new, and make it successful. Good going by them there!
We then have Mario Sunshine. Well to try and make this game original, Nintendo have detracted from the normal Mario type games, and created Mario goes Eco-worrier! From first impressions I thought this game looked a bit fishy, but it’s starting to look pretty good. Should be another GREAT Mario game, but I’d really have liked to play a Mario 64 2!!
Now for Zelda. Well Nintendo’s take to try and make the new Zelda original was to turn it cell-shaded. Personally I think it looks a good game and should have great playability. But it’s going to be a shorter Zelda experience this time!! Why??? There’s no reason it should take too long to create! Just look at Final Fantasy on the Playstation. Square managed to release 3 EPIC tales on the old Playstation! So why can’t Nintendo manage on the Gamecube?
Other than that, what do Nintendo have in the pipeline? There’s Wario Worlds, which looks like a good ol’ traditional Mario style platformer. FANTASTIC STUFF! Then there’s Mario Kart. Even thought virtually nothings been seen of this game, it has to be being made somewhere. But other than that what else is Nintendo developing??? And don’t quote me any Nintendo 2nd party games like Metroid. I want to know what NINTENDO are making! I know their always secretive so there might be a few hidden titles somewhere, but frankly what are they making? Have Nintendo just turned into the company that looks over everyone else’s work? I.e. Do they now just pass off all their games to other developers to make, and Nintendo just comment on them, and tell the developer if it’s pap or not. I mean Nintendo just keep giving away all their characters and stuff all the time to other developers to create games with, instead of actually making the games themselves.
StarFox => Rare, Starfox Adventures Dinosaur Plant
Also => Namco, another proper Starfox game
Mario => Camelot, Mario Tennis n Golf
F-Zero => Sega
Metroid => Retro Studios
I’m sure there’s probably some others but I can’t remember at the moment.
The thing that triggered me thinking this way was that I’ve just started trying to finish off Shenmue 2 on my Dreamcast. While playing the game I was just thinking how FANTASTIC, AMAZING, BRILLIANT the game is! The amount of detail! The amount of thought, depth put into the game is something that you just never find in other games. I then though about who made it. SEGA! Now Sega have created a vast amount of diverse games. Here are some of em :-
Virtua Fighter
Sonic
Shenmue
Super Monkey Ball
Chu Chu Rocket
Sega Bass Fishing
Sega Rally
Phantasy Star Online
There’s to name just a few. I was just sat there while playing Shenmue thinking, Sega have created all these varied, different types of games, but really what has Nintendo done?
Yes they created the first true 3D platformer on the N64, and they created a fantastic action RPG, Zelda 64. Those two games are two of the most acclaimed games of all time. But really, what else have they done? So far on the Gamecube they haven’t really brought us anything significantly new or different! I’ve got great respect for Sega because they release a good selection of games across all genres, but Nintendo just don’t seem to bother doing this. Yes their characters appear in a multitude of different types of games, but Nintendo don’t personally seem to bother creating a varied selection of games. The games they do produce are always FANTASTIC, I won’t deny that fact, but it’s just starting to get on my nerves every time you read a quote from someone at Nintendo when they state that the games industry is gonna crash because people aren’t creating original games anymore etc.
Don’t get me wrong here, I still LUV Nintendo! They create the best hardware I feel, and their games are always amazing. I’d never give up a Nintendo controller for any other. But I just feel that instead of moaning all the time, Nintendo should just get off their backsides and create some games!
One final point I’d like to make though, is that I respect Nintendo’s recent announcement that they are not going to announce another console any time soon, but rather use the Gamecube till it really has become obsolete. Sony are going to announce a new console soon. Probably next year. But Nintendo don’t see the point because it just wouldn’t make that much of a different to the games. You could create a new console that could do a few more polygons, but the current consoles still have yet to be pushed to their full potential, so there’s no point in creating new hardware. Personally I think that this decision is probably due to the fact that Nintendo released the N64 well after the Playstation, and the Playstation went on to dominate the market. Now the Playstation 2 was released well over a year before the Gamecube, and has again dominated the market. Thus there’s no point in Nintendo trying to release another console to compete directly with the Playstation 3, and the X-Box 2. Rather Nintendo want to wait till there both released, and then find the time to release another console into the market which everyone will think is different from the PS3 and XB2, and so will buy it. Sounds like an intelligent plan to me, and makes me think Nintendo do have a head on their shoulders.
Just oooone more thing I almost forgot to mention. The GBA! I’ll be brief. Nintendo – “People should create original games; So we’ll go and release Mario 2, Super Mario World, and Yoshi’s Island instead of creating a totally new Mario adventure.” Fair enough, people who are too young to have played these games on their SNES all those years ago can now play them on their GBA’s. But ORIGINALITY!!! Also, what’s there for the people who have played those games and completed them already? I’ll be damned if I’m gonna fork out another 30 to play them again, when I could just whack the cart in my SNES and play them anyways. I want an ORIGINAL Mario game on the GBA!!!
What do other people think about Nintendo at the moment? Do you think their all talk no action, or do you think there doing a brilliant job at the moment?
:)
Nintendo!
How many times have we heard Nintendo complain that the games industry is DOOMED! That there’s no originality and that the games industry is just gonna crash and burn because of it. I’m getting quite sick of them going on about it. Just get on with releasing some games will ya!!! ORIGINAL ONES TO, as you keep yammering on about em!
So far we’ve had Wave Race. Though a fantastic game, well not everyone thought so. I’ve just got sommin’ about water, and so I LUV this game. But generally it was just an update to the N64 one, using mostly the same tracks, just with a few new bits. They could have done a lot more to it, and a lot of people complained that the background detail wasn’t as good as it could have been, and that’s true.
And there’s been Smash Brothers. Though another great game, it is yet again another N64 update. So where’s the original ones???
Well there’s Pikmin. Lemmings with plant creatures. It’s an alright game even thought it’s a bit short. I suppose it shows Nintendo’s willingness to try something new, and make it successful. Good going by them there!
We then have Mario Sunshine. Well to try and make this game original, Nintendo have detracted from the normal Mario type games, and created Mario goes Eco-worrier! From first impressions I thought this game looked a bit fishy, but it’s starting to look pretty good. Should be another GREAT Mario game, but I’d really have liked to play a Mario 64 2!!
Now for Zelda. Well Nintendo’s take to try and make the new Zelda original was to turn it cell-shaded. Personally I think it looks a good game and should have great playability. But it’s going to be a shorter Zelda experience this time!! Why??? There’s no reason it should take too long to create! Just look at Final Fantasy on the Playstation. Square managed to release 3 EPIC tales on the old Playstation! So why can’t Nintendo manage on the Gamecube?
Other than that, what do Nintendo have in the pipeline? There’s Wario Worlds, which looks like a good ol’ traditional Mario style platformer. FANTASTIC STUFF! Then there’s Mario Kart. Even thought virtually nothings been seen of this game, it has to be being made somewhere. But other than that what else is Nintendo developing??? And don’t quote me any Nintendo 2nd party games like Metroid. I want to know what NINTENDO are making! I know their always secretive so there might be a few hidden titles somewhere, but frankly what are they making? Have Nintendo just turned into the company that looks over everyone else’s work? I.e. Do they now just pass off all their games to other developers to make, and Nintendo just comment on them, and tell the developer if it’s pap or not. I mean Nintendo just keep giving away all their characters and stuff all the time to other developers to create games with, instead of actually making the games themselves.
StarFox => Rare, Starfox Adventures Dinosaur Plant
Also => Namco, another proper Starfox game
Mario => Camelot, Mario Tennis n Golf
F-Zero => Sega
Metroid => Retro Studios
I’m sure there’s probably some others but I can’t remember at the moment.
The thing that triggered me thinking this way was that I’ve just started trying to finish off Shenmue 2 on my Dreamcast. While playing the game I was just thinking how FANTASTIC, AMAZING, BRILLIANT the game is! The amount of detail! The amount of thought, depth put into the game is something that you just never find in other games. I then though about who made it. SEGA! Now Sega have created a vast amount of diverse games. Here are some of em :-
Virtua Fighter
Sonic
Shenmue
Super Monkey Ball
Chu Chu Rocket
Sega Bass Fishing
Sega Rally
Phantasy Star Online
There’s to name just a few. I was just sat there while playing Shenmue thinking, Sega have created all these varied, different types of games, but really what has Nintendo done?
Yes they created the first true 3D platformer on the N64, and they created a fantastic action RPG, Zelda 64. Those two games are two of the most acclaimed games of all time. But really, what else have they done? So far on the Gamecube they haven’t really brought us anything significantly new or different! I’ve got great respect for Sega because they release a good selection of games across all genres, but Nintendo just don’t seem to bother doing this. Yes their characters appear in a multitude of different types of games, but Nintendo don’t personally seem to bother creating a varied selection of games. The games they do produce are always FANTASTIC, I won’t deny that fact, but it’s just starting to get on my nerves every time you read a quote from someone at Nintendo when they state that the games industry is gonna crash because people aren’t creating original games anymore etc.
Don’t get me wrong here, I still LUV Nintendo! They create the best hardware I feel, and their games are always amazing. I’d never give up a Nintendo controller for any other. But I just feel that instead of moaning all the time, Nintendo should just get off their backsides and create some games!
One final point I’d like to make though, is that I respect Nintendo’s recent announcement that they are not going to announce another console any time soon, but rather use the Gamecube till it really has become obsolete. Sony are going to announce a new console soon. Probably next year. But Nintendo don’t see the point because it just wouldn’t make that much of a different to the games. You could create a new console that could do a few more polygons, but the current consoles still have yet to be pushed to their full potential, so there’s no point in creating new hardware. Personally I think that this decision is probably due to the fact that Nintendo released the N64 well after the Playstation, and the Playstation went on to dominate the market. Now the Playstation 2 was released well over a year before the Gamecube, and has again dominated the market. Thus there’s no point in Nintendo trying to release another console to compete directly with the Playstation 3, and the X-Box 2. Rather Nintendo want to wait till there both released, and then find the time to release another console into the market which everyone will think is different from the PS3 and XB2, and so will buy it. Sounds like an intelligent plan to me, and makes me think Nintendo do have a head on their shoulders.
Just oooone more thing I almost forgot to mention. The GBA! I’ll be brief. Nintendo – “People should create original games; So we’ll go and release Mario 2, Super Mario World, and Yoshi’s Island instead of creating a totally new Mario adventure.” Fair enough, people who are too young to have played these games on their SNES all those years ago can now play them on their GBA’s. But ORIGINALITY!!! Also, what’s there for the people who have played those games and completed them already? I’ll be damned if I’m gonna fork out another 30 to play them again, when I could just whack the cart in my SNES and play them anyways. I want an ORIGINAL Mario game on the GBA!!!
What do other people think about Nintendo at the moment? Do you think their all talk no action, or do you think there doing a brilliant job at the moment?
:)
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Tilts his head back and laughs. 21 people from Retro 4 people from EAD.
Only 4? In that case I wouldn't expect the game for an extremely long time. Even the most basic of projects these days need large teams - The new Tomb Raider has 20 people working on the game.
Cooky Nintendo do pass game rights on but they are never crap and why? Because of EAD but i'd expect someone like you to know all about that right? What wrong?
EAD is Nintendo's in house coders, 4 of them are working full time on metroid prime, they've been working non-stop with eternal darkness... Starfox is being made by Namco AND Nintendo and RARE AND Nintendo. F Zero is being made by SEGA AND Nintendo, Zelda GBA is being made by Capcom AND Nintendo.
Did you not know that the starfox projects are joint and the f zero one is sorta joint? Of course you did. It has always been like this, interactive studios made the first metroids not nintendo (although like retro they are technically the same thing), pokemon was made by game freak (tecnically the same as Nintendo). Look here SEGA is only made up of first party houses and do not have in house coders like Nintendo, and so Sonic is in fact as much a SEGA creation as Metroid Prime is Nintendo's.
EAD is Nintendo's in house coders, 4 of them are working full time on metroid prime, they've been working non-stop with eternal darkness... Starfox is being made by Namco AND Nintendo and RARE AND Nintendo. F Zero is being made by SEGA AND Nintendo, Zelda GBA is being made by Capcom AND Nintendo.
Did you not know that the starfox projects are joint and the f zero one is sorta joint? Of course you did. It has always been like this, interactive studios made the first metroids not nintendo (although like retro they are technically the same thing), pokemon was made by game freak (tecnically the same as Nintendo). Look here SEGA is only made up of first party houses and do not have in house coders like Nintendo, and so Sonic is in fact as much a SEGA creation as Metroid Prime is Nintendo's.
Was me just stressing how Nintendo just pass off all their characters to anyone and everyone. Well actually that's not really true. They only give them to established developers, but....
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Mario Shooter
It's a Mario first person shooter being made by....... MICROSOFT!!!
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It's a Mario first person shooter being made by....... MICROSOFT!!!
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Well, I reckon Ninty might have something up their sleeve... a big might. There have been hints from Shigsy of Pikmin 2, and rumours in places... (that means I don't remember where :P) about it being an online game.
I still reckon Ninty have the magic touch. I dunno when they'll show it though. I'm hoping it will be there for Mazza Sunshine and Zelda. The first time I played Zelda on the N64 I think I was a little disappointed... the expectation was so high, and I played it all hours God sent (and didn't infact...) until I won it. That kinda left me a bit annoyed, gave the feeling it wasn't really 'epic' but recently I started it again. I must've won it many times by now, but this time I'm just taking it all in, the sights, the scale... just everything about it... before I think I saw it, but not ... I dunno... fully or something.
Anyway, I know the magic will be there again.
I still reckon Ninty have the magic touch. I dunno when they'll show it though. I'm hoping it will be there for Mazza Sunshine and Zelda. The first time I played Zelda on the N64 I think I was a little disappointed... the expectation was so high, and I played it all hours God sent (and didn't infact...) until I won it. That kinda left me a bit annoyed, gave the feeling it wasn't really 'epic' but recently I started it again. I must've won it many times by now, but this time I'm just taking it all in, the sights, the scale... just everything about it... before I think I saw it, but not ... I dunno... fully or something.
Anyway, I know the magic will be there again.
cookie monster wrote:
> LOL i was going to write a similar topic with exactly the same
> heading.
Cooky(ies) think alike I see then!
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> LOL i was going to write a similar topic with exactly the same
> heading.
Cooky(ies) think alike I see then!
:)
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