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"Some points you'd do well to remember...."

Ok, here's a couple of points that people who are slating the Xbox should remember:

1. Nintendo dropped the price of the N64 by £100 3 months after launch, and offered NO compensation for early buyers. A few people got a free pad if they phoned up and complained enough.

2. What's all this crap about "a console has to be succesful in Japan"? Er, MegaDrive anyone? It's wasn't a flop in Japan, but it wasn't far off. The majority of the units were sold in Europe and the US, yet that survived and did amazingly well over here.

Just a couple of facts you might want to remember. It just seems a few of you have "selective memories", that's all...

Also Your Honour, remember the 'Why can't Microsoft give you a cheque for £100????' arguments....

Sony didn't even bother making it public notice when they decided to compensate early buyers of the PS2 with free games.

I will be once again getting an XBox.. this time after my exams and only for seven days.. at the end of the seven days and after I have completed Halo I will return it for a full refund.

That is all.

I believe this is yet another console wars topic. Anywho, on the topic of best games, here are MY best games on each console

PS2
Final Fantasy 10
Mad Maestro
Rez

Xbox
Halo
Amped
Oddworld
JSRF
Rallisport Challenge

GameCube
Luigi's Mansion
Wave Race
Super Monkey Ball
Star Wars
Super Smash Bros Melee

As you can see, there aren't exactly loads of (in my opinion) must have titles, and saying that MGS2 and GT3 are must have is very stupid. I hate them both, meaning they can't be must have, cos somebody (namely, me) doesn't like them, therefore ensuring that not everybody will. Phew...

Your Honour wrote:
> There are more games worth getting than Halo.

Couldn't agree more. I don't even like Halo (FPS just aren't my thing) but I am still extreamly happy with my Xbox, and find lots of games that I want.

Problem is, now, in *my* opinion the games on PS2 are starting to slow down. This is probably just me, as I have a select interest in games. I don't like FPS so I won't like MOA frontline, and for some reason, I just don't like FF games.

But I'm not selling it! If I do, a game that I want will come out! Like stuntman, if it ever releases.

Lucky for me, I'm too young and stupid to remember those releases (well not the N64, but I didn't know any stats)

Yay! I can be byisttttt. I can be byisttt.

*slap* Oww!

Your Honour wrote:
> IB, fair point, but remember that the console has only been out just
> over 2 months. Look at the titles available for PS2 after just 2
> months.

Good point. Everyone was slating the PS2 at that point, and then GT3 was released. From them on it was quality game after quality game, and it hasn't stopped. Also, the lack of any competition last year meant that the PS2 was extremely successful, at least sales wise. First impressions don't always count...

I also agree with VenomByte, the only game on the GC I'd consider buying at the moment is Roque Leader, and of the ones being released I like the look of Bounty Hunter and MOD: Frontline. However, but of those are being released on PS2 as well.

All comes down to opinion, I s'pose.

Pah, no console will ever match the online audience of PC gaming. Why console producers are even bothering, when they can just exploit the already huge market for Online gaming on PCs is a mystery.

It's the "we do it because we can" thing again. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should do it.

Part of the appeal of consoles against PCs is that you can play multiplayer simultaneously in the same room with a lot of games, soething the PC has lost in recent years. But for internet gaming - don't go there. The PC market owns it, has more power, cheaper games, and a massive established audience. Anything the consoles come up with is just trying to be trendy.

I slate XBox just for the sheer fun of it - it's like the fat kid at the back of the class.

There is nothing actually wrong with it but you just pick on it as something to have a joke about.

XBox has some crap games, but Universal studio Park tour (GC) and peter Pan (PS2) exist so other console fans can't talk. If your a die-hard PC fan then your a nerd anyhow so leave your views unheard. Oh, and you also have a load of tripe too.
Each console has weak and strong points; no console is generally better than the other because each has a nu,mber of gems and each has a load of rushed 'games'.

Wookie - you seen the E3 X-Box press briefing movie yet ? Its on Xbox.com. Very impressive. As for the different tastes thing, yeah, what you say is right - so why am I along with other X-Box owners made to feel we're stupid for buying a console that offers both excellent games and potential with its direction ?

More than anything, I'm defending a company thats actually showing some ambitions in bringing gaming upto a new level. The PS2 will of course have a HD and online gaming, but the fact that everyone will have to buy all this stuff seperate will slow its chances down of really putting forward a good online plan. Nintendo's online plan is pretty much non-existant and wouldn't exist at all if not for Sega.

Yeah we all love the games like MGS, Mario, Resident Evil. But overall, how many more times do we want to just play the same games with little difference ? Out of the 3 consoles, I see the X-Box as the only console that has not only the ambition, but the ready capabilities for games designers to make games without any hindering to their imaginations.

2D - 3D was a big step in gaming and now look what we can play compared to the days of the likes of the Megadrive/Genesis and the SNES. The real direction to go now is both broadband and using the likes of a hard drive to be able to do new things with games. Blinx uses the hard drive in a great way as does Project Ego. Its not just about cutting loading times and making a big memory card for game saves, its about giving designers the chance to add new innovative ideas into their games.

Apparently theres 300 games being made for the X-Box right now with 200 due out in time for Christmas. You have excellent third parties backing up the X-Box such as Sega, EA, Capcom, Konami and Namco along with many others.

Of course some prefer the GC games, etc, but what I don't see is how they can blindly call the X-Box crap when it quite clearly isn't. Most of the time, I see posts in the X-Box forum slating the console and I don't see one decent arguement against it.

Well it looks like I agree with the Americans for once then!

I've you've got it, use it. Simple.

:-D