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This is me, a serious X-Box fanboy and it is not a stupid consoles war post I just want everyone who is either into the X-BOX or gaming in general to read this, I know it is long but please read it, you will finally see why we are here for a long time!
The X-Box can not be compared to the GC becuase the X-Box wins hands down. Instead of bringing out say 1 good game a month and the rest are a waste of time the X-Box is bringing out 3-4 amazing games a month and between now and christmas this will increase. I can't believe that the X-Box has only been out just over 5 weeks in the UK because the games we have seen and played so far win GOTY before the end of year has arrived. Many complain about ports, nut just look at how the PS2 mashes ports up, take Max Payne for example, the X-Box version is the best version of the game yet and it is not a biased opinioin as most people share this opinioin and on the net reviews rate the game higher or equal than the PC version and the only reasons why it was faulted was becuase it was too short (nothing to do with the port) and no level editor (port problem). Then take the PS2 version:
No quick save
Load times are shocking
Graphics are very poor
sounds are dumbed down
DOLBY 5.1 is not apparent
Frame rate is terrible
There we go 1-0 to the X-box!
Then lets take SSX Tricky, the PS2 version was good, the GameCube version was appauling LOL! and once more the X-Box version wins once more due to popular opinioins and amazing graphical enhancements (mainly in the lighting department) to the other 2 version. The GameCube version thined all the characters down to make them look stupid, the graphics had been dumbed down for some strange and unknown reason (well it is known can't handle em) and it was rated the poorest out of the lot.
Before you jump the gun forget the, " Nintendo wanted to create a console ideal for games and nothing else ", becuase it is utter rubbish! The GameCube contains neither DVD playback nor a Hard Drive which means no internet play and no option to download extra levels or characters and game Demos. Lets all face it even the PS2 could do this (no offence to PS2 owners it is my 2nd favourite console and I hope it does well) and this goes to show that it was rushed out to compete as they are even supposedly adding a DVD player to the console (emphesis on supposedly) and if they had thought things over properly and not rushed the console out then they might last maybe a day longer than the N64!
Forget the Resident Evil rubbish, read reviews on www.gamespot.com and www.ign.com to find out that the game is nothing ultra special and is just an update in the series and look at it this way, the PS2 new that the series was coming to an end after a great career so they sold the franchise to guess what people... NINTENDO, LOL! All Nintendo seems to do is rehash old games from other consoles of both their own and other consoles. Anyone can bring out old games, Microsoft could just release:
Shenmue 1
Jet Grind Radio
Virtua Tennis 1
Virtua Tennis 2
But instead they have had the brains to bring out the latest addition like:
Jet Set Radio Future
Shenmue 2
Microsoft are giving gamers what they want, no-one wants old rehashes of ex PLAYSTAION ONE games! LOL, face it the GameCube is a console that is not going to survive and it should have been called an N64.2!
All these games that you list as great games:
Die Hard Vendetta
Mario
Metroid
Star Fox
They are all old (bar Die Hard) and I bet you now maybe 2 of them will score 80% in reviews, just stop giving out all this rubbish about, " we have the best games " when clearly the X-Box list makes me drool just looking at it! I could go out and list a few X-Box titles that will only appeal to a select audience and say, " look these games sound good lets go promote them without any evidence or facts "! I know one GameCube owner that owns all 3 top consoles and a great PC that will admit that the GameCube is utter kids play and wishes he never bought one, but all you on here are so imature that all your arguments stem from the same thing, RUBBISH!
Look at the impact games like:
Halo
RalliSport Challenge
Project Gotham Racing
Max Payne
Dead Or Alive III
Jet Set Radio Future
WWF: Raw Is War
Wreckless: The Yakuza Missions
And with the likes of:
Air Force Delta Storm
Black And White
Bruce Lee: Quest For the Dragon
Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Commandos 2
Conflict Desert Storm
Dead To Rights
Die Hard
Dino Crisis 3
Good Cop Bad Cop
Gun Valkyrie
Halo 2
Hitman 2
House of the Dead 3
Hunter: The Reckoning
The Matrix: Reloaded (gonna be the best game ever)
Max Payne 2
Medal Of Honour: Allied Assault
Metal Gear Solid Substance
Midtown Madness 3
Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance
Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis
Pac Man World 2
Prisoner Of War
Rainbow Six: Raven Shield
Return to Castle Wolfinstien
Serious Sam
Shenmue II
Shenmue III
Soul Calibur 2
State Of Emergency
Star Wars: Jedi Starfighter Special Edition
SWAT: Global Strike Team
Terminator Dawn of Fate
Timesplitters 2
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell
Unreal Championship
X-MEN Wolverines Revenge
Hitting our shops this year and early next year, TAKE COVER NINTIES!
The GameCube has not had this impact, maybe Star Wars: Rouge Squadron has had a small effect but nothing like Halo and the other games listed above and THEY WERE ALL LANCH TITLES! With over 200 amazing games promised before Christmas on top of the having the worlds most powerful graphical and sound engine that all you Ninties could only dream of and we have the Worlds MOST POWERFUL games console and with the games to back it up! THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN ARGUE WITH, NOTHING! How can you complain about all the games out and coming out when they are truly mouth watering.
This is a desperate plee to just SHUT YOUR MOUTHS AND KNOW YOUR ROLES! Because in here we are sick of all you GameCube owners trying to convince yourselves that you have made the right descion! If you think you have then I AM PLEASED FOR YOU, YES THAT IS RIGHT I AM PLEASED FOR YOU, IN FACT I AM OVER THE MOON! But just stop coming into the X-Box forum with naff arguments and sales figures beacuase they are all wrong! The X-Box is picking up sales in Europe and Japan, in America it is alreday doing amazingly well and in Austraillia they had to increase shipping by 41% just to please consumers with the Worlds Most powerul games console!
Whatever you come back with I am not interested, I have held off with pure power facts because all you Ninties deny them BEACUASE YOU ARE JELOUS but if you want em I will give them to you. As IGN quote themselves ' WITH OVER 70 GAMES OUT AND 200 PROMISED BY CHRISMAS MORE AND MORE GREAT X-BOX GAMES ARE BEING CONCIEVED EACH DAY'!
As 'THE ROCK' himself would say 'THE X-BOX IS THE BEST THING ON THIS SIDE OF THE PILLOW SO ALL YOU NINTIES GO LAY THE SMACKDOWN SOMEWHERE ELSE AND KNOW YOUR ROLES JABRONIS'! ALL YOU X-BOX FANS JOIN WITH ME AS WE PREACH IT'S POWER AND CAPABILITIES ACROSS THESE FORUMS AND GET FAITH IN ALL US PROUD OWNERS! SONG IT OUTLOUD! 'IF YOU SMELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL... WHAT GARBE123 AND BILL GATES AND THE X-BOX AND ALL YOU X-BOX FANS ON HERE AND OUT THERE... ARE... COOKING! JUST BRING IT NINTIES!
The X-Box can not be compared to the GC becuase the X-Box wins hands down. Instead of bringing out say 1 good game a month and the rest are a waste of time the X-Box is bringing out 3-4 amazing games a month and between now and christmas this will increase. I can't believe that the X-Box has only been out just over 5 weeks in the UK because the games we have seen and played so far win GOTY before the end of year has arrived. Many complain about ports, nut just look at how the PS2 mashes ports up, take Max Payne for example, the X-Box version is the best version of the game yet and it is not a biased opinioin as most people share this opinioin and on the net reviews rate the game higher or equal than the PC version and the only reasons why it was faulted was becuase it was too short (nothing to do with the port) and no level editor (port problem). Then take the PS2 version:
No quick save
Load times are shocking
Graphics are very poor
sounds are dumbed down
DOLBY 5.1 is not apparent
Frame rate is terrible
There we go 1-0 to the X-box!
Then lets take SSX Tricky, the PS2 version was good, the GameCube version was appauling LOL! and once more the X-Box version wins once more due to popular opinioins and amazing graphical enhancements (mainly in the lighting department) to the other 2 version. The GameCube version thined all the characters down to make them look stupid, the graphics had been dumbed down for some strange and unknown reason (well it is known can't handle em) and it was rated the poorest out of the lot.
Before you jump the gun forget the, " Nintendo wanted to create a console ideal for games and nothing else ", becuase it is utter rubbish! The GameCube contains neither DVD playback nor a Hard Drive which means no internet play and no option to download extra levels or characters and game Demos. Lets all face it even the PS2 could do this (no offence to PS2 owners it is my 2nd favourite console and I hope it does well) and this goes to show that it was rushed out to compete as they are even supposedly adding a DVD player to the console (emphesis on supposedly) and if they had thought things over properly and not rushed the console out then they might last maybe a day longer than the N64!
Forget the Resident Evil rubbish, read reviews on www.gamespot.com and www.ign.com to find out that the game is nothing ultra special and is just an update in the series and look at it this way, the PS2 new that the series was coming to an end after a great career so they sold the franchise to guess what people... NINTENDO, LOL! All Nintendo seems to do is rehash old games from other consoles of both their own and other consoles. Anyone can bring out old games, Microsoft could just release:
Shenmue 1
Jet Grind Radio
Virtua Tennis 1
Virtua Tennis 2
But instead they have had the brains to bring out the latest addition like:
Jet Set Radio Future
Shenmue 2
Microsoft are giving gamers what they want, no-one wants old rehashes of ex PLAYSTAION ONE games! LOL, face it the GameCube is a console that is not going to survive and it should have been called an N64.2!
All these games that you list as great games:
Die Hard Vendetta
Mario
Metroid
Star Fox
They are all old (bar Die Hard) and I bet you now maybe 2 of them will score 80% in reviews, just stop giving out all this rubbish about, " we have the best games " when clearly the X-Box list makes me drool just looking at it! I could go out and list a few X-Box titles that will only appeal to a select audience and say, " look these games sound good lets go promote them without any evidence or facts "! I know one GameCube owner that owns all 3 top consoles and a great PC that will admit that the GameCube is utter kids play and wishes he never bought one, but all you on here are so imature that all your arguments stem from the same thing, RUBBISH!
Look at the impact games like:
Halo
RalliSport Challenge
Project Gotham Racing
Max Payne
Dead Or Alive III
Jet Set Radio Future
WWF: Raw Is War
Wreckless: The Yakuza Missions
And with the likes of:
Air Force Delta Storm
Black And White
Bruce Lee: Quest For the Dragon
Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Commandos 2
Conflict Desert Storm
Dead To Rights
Die Hard
Dino Crisis 3
Good Cop Bad Cop
Gun Valkyrie
Halo 2
Hitman 2
House of the Dead 3
Hunter: The Reckoning
The Matrix: Reloaded (gonna be the best game ever)
Max Payne 2
Medal Of Honour: Allied Assault
Metal Gear Solid Substance
Midtown Madness 3
Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance
Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis
Pac Man World 2
Prisoner Of War
Rainbow Six: Raven Shield
Return to Castle Wolfinstien
Serious Sam
Shenmue II
Shenmue III
Soul Calibur 2
State Of Emergency
Star Wars: Jedi Starfighter Special Edition
SWAT: Global Strike Team
Terminator Dawn of Fate
Timesplitters 2
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell
Unreal Championship
X-MEN Wolverines Revenge
Hitting our shops this year and early next year, TAKE COVER NINTIES!
The GameCube has not had this impact, maybe Star Wars: Rouge Squadron has had a small effect but nothing like Halo and the other games listed above and THEY WERE ALL LANCH TITLES! With over 200 amazing games promised before Christmas on top of the having the worlds most powerful graphical and sound engine that all you Ninties could only dream of and we have the Worlds MOST POWERFUL games console and with the games to back it up! THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN ARGUE WITH, NOTHING! How can you complain about all the games out and coming out when they are truly mouth watering.
This is a desperate plee to just SHUT YOUR MOUTHS AND KNOW YOUR ROLES! Because in here we are sick of all you GameCube owners trying to convince yourselves that you have made the right descion! If you think you have then I AM PLEASED FOR YOU, YES THAT IS RIGHT I AM PLEASED FOR YOU, IN FACT I AM OVER THE MOON! But just stop coming into the X-Box forum with naff arguments and sales figures beacuase they are all wrong! The X-Box is picking up sales in Europe and Japan, in America it is alreday doing amazingly well and in Austraillia they had to increase shipping by 41% just to please consumers with the Worlds Most powerul games console!
Whatever you come back with I am not interested, I have held off with pure power facts because all you Ninties deny them BEACUASE YOU ARE JELOUS but if you want em I will give them to you. As IGN quote themselves ' WITH OVER 70 GAMES OUT AND 200 PROMISED BY CHRISMAS MORE AND MORE GREAT X-BOX GAMES ARE BEING CONCIEVED EACH DAY'!
As 'THE ROCK' himself would say 'THE X-BOX IS THE BEST THING ON THIS SIDE OF THE PILLOW SO ALL YOU NINTIES GO LAY THE SMACKDOWN SOMEWHERE ELSE AND KNOW YOUR ROLES JABRONIS'! ALL YOU X-BOX FANS JOIN WITH ME AS WE PREACH IT'S POWER AND CAPABILITIES ACROSS THESE FORUMS AND GET FAITH IN ALL US PROUD OWNERS! SONG IT OUTLOUD! 'IF YOU SMELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL... WHAT GARBE123 AND BILL GATES AND THE X-BOX AND ALL YOU X-BOX FANS ON HERE AND OUT THERE... ARE... COOKING! JUST BRING IT NINTIES!
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I don't like the GameCube one becuase I find the D-Pad is too small and there are a lack of buttons, on Rouge Sqaudron I found it hard to open the wings and slow down to accelerate quickly as they are both controlled by the A button! I love the X-BOX controller and the size is a great advantage as it fills my hand space. But I inderstand you don't like it and that is your opinion as I don't like the GameCube is mine but I am sick of ninties like cyclone and philips who don't know what they are talking about and who don't have reasons for their dislike, other than JELOUSY!
garbe123 wrote:
> Or†ega wrote:
> Just one point...
>
> Best Game of E3 2002 was Metroid prime...
>
>
> Maybe to you, Tom Clancys Splinter Cell for the X-BOX and Deus EX 2
> for the X-BOX were my 2 favourite games not to mention Metal Gear
> Solid Substance! Just to let you know, the X-BOX was givin the award
> for most promising games this year and next year!
He wasn't talking about opinion, he was stating that the award for Best Game was given to Metroid Prime.
> Or†ega wrote:
> Just one point...
>
> Best Game of E3 2002 was Metroid prime...
>
>
> Maybe to you, Tom Clancys Splinter Cell for the X-BOX and Deus EX 2
> for the X-BOX were my 2 favourite games not to mention Metal Gear
> Solid Substance! Just to let you know, the X-BOX was givin the award
> for most promising games this year and next year!
He wasn't talking about opinion, he was stating that the award for Best Game was given to Metroid Prime.
Or†ega wrote:
> Just one point...
>
> Best Game of E3 2002 was Metroid prime...
Maybe to you, Tom Clancys Splinter Cell for the X-BOX and Deus EX 2 for the X-BOX were my 2 favourite games not to mention Metal Gear Solid Substance! Just to let you know, the X-BOX was givin the award for most promising games this year and next year!
> Just one point...
>
> Best Game of E3 2002 was Metroid prime...
Maybe to you, Tom Clancys Splinter Cell for the X-BOX and Deus EX 2 for the X-BOX were my 2 favourite games not to mention Metal Gear Solid Substance! Just to let you know, the X-BOX was givin the award for most promising games this year and next year!
garbe123 wrote:
> It is biased but it is time they had a taste of what they do to us
> each day, I think the X-Box is amazing and although I don't like the
> GameCube I stay well away from their forum and I do not post anything
> against them in there. I have gotten mad now because I am sick of
> reading what pathetic non-sense they post in here.
I understand what you're saying, but try to understand that some people do have really strong opinions on the consoles they dislike. I'm not sticking up for them, I'm sick of them myself when Sony and X-box fans come to the Nintendo forum, or even PC fans on some occasions slate the GameCube because they haven't played it.
I do dislike the X-box very much. Not because of the games, I'm sure there are plenty of great AAA titles as there are on the GameCube and Playstation 2. It's the controller I completely dislike. If microsft redesigned the controller I might consider getting one, but not in the near future because I wont be able to afford games for any system for a long time if I did.
Now you may think that's a petty excuse not to like the system, but that's because you're a fan of the system and are probably used to the controller. I'd be very suprised if somebody hated the GameCube controller as much as I do the X-box, but there must be people out there who do.
If I could afford it, I'd have an X-box right now, no doubt about it, but seeing as I don't have a job and am still in 6th form, I can only afford one system at the moment and that has to be the one I prefer the most, which is the GameCube.
I don't slate off the other consoles though, I also don't use VERY biased arguments like you did to try and counteract. I state facts and nothing but the facts when I defend the GameCube, as I have also done the X-box and PS2.
> It is biased but it is time they had a taste of what they do to us
> each day, I think the X-Box is amazing and although I don't like the
> GameCube I stay well away from their forum and I do not post anything
> against them in there. I have gotten mad now because I am sick of
> reading what pathetic non-sense they post in here.
I understand what you're saying, but try to understand that some people do have really strong opinions on the consoles they dislike. I'm not sticking up for them, I'm sick of them myself when Sony and X-box fans come to the Nintendo forum, or even PC fans on some occasions slate the GameCube because they haven't played it.
I do dislike the X-box very much. Not because of the games, I'm sure there are plenty of great AAA titles as there are on the GameCube and Playstation 2. It's the controller I completely dislike. If microsft redesigned the controller I might consider getting one, but not in the near future because I wont be able to afford games for any system for a long time if I did.
Now you may think that's a petty excuse not to like the system, but that's because you're a fan of the system and are probably used to the controller. I'd be very suprised if somebody hated the GameCube controller as much as I do the X-box, but there must be people out there who do.
If I could afford it, I'd have an X-box right now, no doubt about it, but seeing as I don't have a job and am still in 6th form, I can only afford one system at the moment and that has to be the one I prefer the most, which is the GameCube.
I don't slate off the other consoles though, I also don't use VERY biased arguments like you did to try and counteract. I state facts and nothing but the facts when I defend the GameCube, as I have also done the X-box and PS2.
Just one point...
Best Game of E3 2002 was Metroid prime...
Best Game of E3 2002 was Metroid prime...
It is biased but it is time they had a taste of what they do to us each day, I think the X-Box is amazing and although I don't like the GameCube I stay well away from their forum and I do not post anything against them in there. I have gotten mad now because I am sick of reading what pathetic non-sense they post in here.
garbe, I agree it's annoying having people who dislike the console you enjoy playing slating it for silly reasons, but your original message in this topic is VERY biased.
It's not just the X-box forum that has to put up with this you know! The Nintendo forum gets just as much crap, and maybe thats why Nintendo fans are doing it to the Sony and Microsoft forums.
It's not just the X-box forum that has to put up with this you know! The Nintendo forum gets just as much crap, and maybe thats why Nintendo fans are doing it to the Sony and Microsoft forums.
LOL, I can't be bothered with you philips, at least cyclones runnish isn't as funny as this stuff! My only argument, have you bothered to read the above? I don't think I even mentioned it! FOOL!
garbe stop going on about your hard drive and your internet thingy on the Xbox.
It's not that amazing!
And if your arguement is that the XboX owners can now download demos, then you are a muppet!
You need broadband before you can do anything like that, I'm not going to sit there for hours and download a 150mb demo! It will take hours!
It's not that amazing!
And if your arguement is that the XboX owners can now download demos, then you are a muppet!
You need broadband before you can do anything like that, I'm not going to sit there for hours and download a 150mb demo! It will take hours!
Phi11ip wrote:
> We'll just see which console has the best games at the end won't we!
>
> And if you think that Buffy the Vampire Slayer will be a good game,
> then that just proves you are mad!
>
> I'm not gonna bother arguing about how the Gamecube is better that the
> XBOX because I too could write a rather large one sided view of why
> which is better!
>
> e.g
> Gamecube is cheaper
> Gamecube has sold more units
>
> Can't be bothered to talk anymore because I could go on for hours
> about my one sided view and so could you.
LOL! I am nearly falling off my chair reading this! LOL, hahahaha,
Cheaper
Sold more
Oh ye that really makes a console better! LOL, go away you moron!
> We'll just see which console has the best games at the end won't we!
>
> And if you think that Buffy the Vampire Slayer will be a good game,
> then that just proves you are mad!
>
> I'm not gonna bother arguing about how the Gamecube is better that the
> XBOX because I too could write a rather large one sided view of why
> which is better!
>
> e.g
> Gamecube is cheaper
> Gamecube has sold more units
>
> Can't be bothered to talk anymore because I could go on for hours
> about my one sided view and so could you.
LOL! I am nearly falling off my chair reading this! LOL, hahahaha,
Cheaper
Sold more
Oh ye that really makes a console better! LOL, go away you moron!
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