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They are retailing the PS2 for £300. I know it sounds like a lot but get this. For every unit they sell, they still make a deficit of £65. There seems to be a high demand for the thing so it's in really high production rate and seeing as they're relying on games for profit, well the game sales are pretty poor at the moment and worse still, evidence shows that the PS2 will go the same way as the Saturn. For those of you who haven't followed me, this means that Sony are going to lose a fortune!
You might think that Nintendo and Sega were hit bad by losing the market but they survived because they make great games and they have other areas to get money from (Sega's Arcades and Nintendo's Gameboy).
PS2 could be (might not be but could be) a worse flop than the Sega Saturn and seeing as Sony's finances are relying on long term games sales, well, Sony are going to lose so much, a lot of employee's will be rendered jobless and Sony may even disappear from the games market.
I hardly think that Sony will be missed although it HAS done LOTS of great things for the games industry. It brought games to people who used to think that they were "sad". It taught Nintendo and Sega not to be too greedy and to give the best quality and prices around and finally it made the games industry bigger meaning that more and more profits will be made by future games developers (like me).
You might think that Nintendo and Sega were hit bad by losing the market but they survived because they make great games and they have other areas to get money from (Sega's Arcades and Nintendo's Gameboy).
PS2 could be (might not be but could be) a worse flop than the Sega Saturn and seeing as Sony's finances are relying on long term games sales, well, Sony are going to lose so much, a lot of employee's will be rendered jobless and Sony may even disappear from the games market.
I hardly think that Sony will be missed although it HAS done LOTS of great things for the games industry. It brought games to people who used to think that they were "sad". It taught Nintendo and Sega not to be too greedy and to give the best quality and prices around and finally it made the games industry bigger meaning that more and more profits will be made by future games developers (like me).
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Sony IS going to lose a fortune. Even if the PS2 IS a success, it still won't match the success of the original PS.
Hey, read my topic on the PS2 success for all the evidence of the PS2 being a success. Which it it will be, I'm sure of it. DO ARGOS HAVE ANY PRE-ORDER FORMS FOR PS2 LAUNCH DATE LEFT???
Oh, but there is evidence.
The PS2 is eagerly awaited, just like the Saturn.
It's hard to develop for, just like the Saturn.
It costs a fortune, just like the Saturn.
It's not as powerful as other consoles on the horizon, just like the Saturn.
It's predecessor (PS) was hugely popular, just like the Saturn's (Mega Drive).
It's been overhyped, just like the Saturn.
This doesn't neccesarily mean that the PS2 WILL go the same way as the Saturn but the EVIDENCE IS there.
And I know that Sony won't go bust but it'll lose so much, there's bound to be a few poor men made redundant.
I may not be completely right, I might have missed something out but the PS2 has 1 year to sell so many consoles that it can just live off revenue.
In a years time, people who want a cheap console will buy a Dreamcast (it'll be £100) people who want the most powerful multi media, games playing, DVD compatable console will chose the Xbox and the PS2 won't be any cheaper (unless Sony are prepared to lose enough money to build an army) than the Gamecube which out powers it and can do anything the PS2 can do except DVD movies.
Also, most of the developers who made the PS a success could well leave it for an easier system to make games for (that happened to the Saturn too).
I'm not saying don't buy a PS2 but there is no way Sony can possibly make a profit out of it!
The PS2 is eagerly awaited, just like the Saturn.
It's hard to develop for, just like the Saturn.
It costs a fortune, just like the Saturn.
It's not as powerful as other consoles on the horizon, just like the Saturn.
It's predecessor (PS) was hugely popular, just like the Saturn's (Mega Drive).
It's been overhyped, just like the Saturn.
This doesn't neccesarily mean that the PS2 WILL go the same way as the Saturn but the EVIDENCE IS there.
And I know that Sony won't go bust but it'll lose so much, there's bound to be a few poor men made redundant.
I may not be completely right, I might have missed something out but the PS2 has 1 year to sell so many consoles that it can just live off revenue.
In a years time, people who want a cheap console will buy a Dreamcast (it'll be £100) people who want the most powerful multi media, games playing, DVD compatable console will chose the Xbox and the PS2 won't be any cheaper (unless Sony are prepared to lose enough money to build an army) than the Gamecube which out powers it and can do anything the PS2 can do except DVD movies.
Also, most of the developers who made the PS a success could well leave it for an easier system to make games for (that happened to the Saturn too).
I'm not saying don't buy a PS2 but there is no way Sony can possibly make a profit out of it!
Sony knew they'd be selling the machine at a loss - they've been saying it for almost a year.
Now that the US launch has happened, and when the UK/Euro launch arrives, games sales will increase drastically. Sony know they have to shift games to make profit from the licence fees, and I think they will acheive those profits.
Do you really think they'd invest billions in a chip manufacturing plant without knowing what their targets would have to be to recoup that cash?
You're right in saying that Sony have a lot riding on PS2, but considering the overall size of the company, and their hundreds of other product lines, I can't see them going bust even in the exremely unlikely event of PS2 failing.
Oh, and cut out this "evidence that it'll go the same way as the Saturn" crap. Until Thursday, the machine was only available on ONE continent - there's no evidence of any such thing.
Now that the US launch has happened, and when the UK/Euro launch arrives, games sales will increase drastically. Sony know they have to shift games to make profit from the licence fees, and I think they will acheive those profits.
Do you really think they'd invest billions in a chip manufacturing plant without knowing what their targets would have to be to recoup that cash?
You're right in saying that Sony have a lot riding on PS2, but considering the overall size of the company, and their hundreds of other product lines, I can't see them going bust even in the exremely unlikely event of PS2 failing.
Oh, and cut out this "evidence that it'll go the same way as the Saturn" crap. Until Thursday, the machine was only available on ONE continent - there's no evidence of any such thing.
They are retailing the PS2 for £300. I know it sounds like a lot but get this. For every unit they sell, they still make a deficit of £65. There seems to be a high demand for the thing so it's in really high production rate and seeing as they're relying on games for profit, well the game sales are pretty poor at the moment and worse still, evidence shows that the PS2 will go the same way as the Saturn. For those of you who haven't followed me, this means that Sony are going to lose a fortune!
You might think that Nintendo and Sega were hit bad by losing the market but they survived because they make great games and they have other areas to get money from (Sega's Arcades and Nintendo's Gameboy).
PS2 could be (might not be but could be) a worse flop than the Sega Saturn and seeing as Sony's finances are relying on long term games sales, well, Sony are going to lose so much, a lot of employee's will be rendered jobless and Sony may even disappear from the games market.
I hardly think that Sony will be missed although it HAS done LOTS of great things for the games industry. It brought games to people who used to think that they were "sad". It taught Nintendo and Sega not to be too greedy and to give the best quality and prices around and finally it made the games industry bigger meaning that more and more profits will be made by future games developers (like me).
You might think that Nintendo and Sega were hit bad by losing the market but they survived because they make great games and they have other areas to get money from (Sega's Arcades and Nintendo's Gameboy).
PS2 could be (might not be but could be) a worse flop than the Sega Saturn and seeing as Sony's finances are relying on long term games sales, well, Sony are going to lose so much, a lot of employee's will be rendered jobless and Sony may even disappear from the games market.
I hardly think that Sony will be missed although it HAS done LOTS of great things for the games industry. It brought games to people who used to think that they were "sad". It taught Nintendo and Sega not to be too greedy and to give the best quality and prices around and finally it made the games industry bigger meaning that more and more profits will be made by future games developers (like me).
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