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Sun 12/05/02 at 11:57
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As many of you know, the X-Box had one of best launch line ups ever, which was only second best to the GameCube's. It included the amazing Halo, Jet Set Radio: Future, Project Gotham Racing and more fairly good titles to back up these smash hits. But after you've finished these, which could be some time if you've got Halo, there's nothing else. After all the fame and fortune from the launch line up, good games seemed to stop dead. I honestly couldn't name anymore well known classic games after that.

The X-Box is a perfectly capable machine - don't get me wrong. When you look at the technical specification compared to Playstation 2 and GameCube it blows them out of the water. A huge Polygon count of 116 million compared to GameCube's 12 million and PS2's 66 million. It's processor is twice as fast as the PS2 and a fair bit faster than the GC. Plus with much higher music and memory capabilities, surely this would be the console to get, no? No.

Do you know why that is? All hardcore, or at least long time, gamers should know that Tech Specs is just something fancy to show off about. What really matters is the games.

This console has, and always will have, huge possibilities for making great games and getting a good market. But they do need more than they have. They need a lot more classic games after the brilliant launch line up. Halo's all well and good but not for the rest of the year. Maybe if they got some games with some serious beats on them to show off their high music capabilities. But that's much easier said than done.

If they want to get some good games that stand out in a crowd, they'll need to get some reliable exclusive second party developers or some exclusive signings. Something that would make someone change their format. Getting GTA3 and MGS2 is all good, but PS2 owners won't buy an X-Box for them.

The Big N have Rare and Resident Evil, which would make me and Resident Evil lovers buy the console, in fact, that's the main reason I did. I thought Veronica X looked brilliant, but not just that, all the exclusive deals like Starfox Adventures and Metroid Prime, how could I resist? Mean while with the X-Box, I may crave to play Halo, but it's just not enough to make me switch formats. I wouldn't give up Res Evil and Rare classics for one game. Microsoft need some deals!

In terms of games for the X-Box, things don't look good, but there is something they could do. Surely most, if not all, of the PC games could be ported across to the X-Box. If this happened many PC lovers were maybe get an X-Box for both PC and X-Box games. It seems logical, but then, who are they competing with? Themselves, it may boost X-Box sales, but wouldn't PC's stop selling? Of course not, everyone needs a PC for something, whether it's writer on Word, creating databases, you name it, PC's have it.

Halo's already being ported across to the PC, so ports to the X-Box could work.

So maybe for all you X-Boxers out there, there may not be shattered dreams, but it all depends on how Microsoft go about it.

Thanks for reading

RiCkOsS
Sun 12/05/02 at 14:20
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"Peace Respect Punk"
Posts: 8,069
Nomad_Soul wrote:

> I will only judge a console after it's been in existence for 18
> months.


So are you going to wait 18 months before buying a console? You are making a judgement call on which console you buy. And seeing as it isn't 18 months since GC or Xbox have been out, if you have bought one you must have made a judgement between the two... (unless you bought both...)
Sun 12/05/02 at 12:26
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Posts: 3,182
RiCk0sS wrote:
> I single it out simply because i feel that as a gamer there isn't
> anything to excite me after the launch line up. Most games are just
> ports or updates, not many exclusives.

*

There's just as many exclusives on the XBOX as there is on the GameCube.
The GameCube is also littered with updates, as is the PS2, as is every console.
Sun 12/05/02 at 12:22
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Posts: 10,437
Nomad_Soul wrote:
>
> They're are all coming out in the next 12 months - like every other
> console.
> Why are you singling out the XBOX in this way?
> Do you really want me to draw up a list of every forthcoming title?

I single it out simply because i feel that as a gamer there isn't anything to excite me after the launch line up. Most games are just ports or updates, not many exclusives.

;-D
Sun 12/05/02 at 12:21
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"Looking for freedom"
Posts: 622
Nomad_Soul wrote:
> I will only judge a console after it's been in existence for 18
> months.

I think it's a bit optimistic to think that the XBox will still be around after that time. At least not as anything more significant than the Dreamcast is now.
Sun 12/05/02 at 12:17
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Posts: 3,182
RiCk0sS wrote:
> It's a very good console, yet the games have somewhat let me down as a
> gamer, where are they?

*

They're are all coming out in the next 12 months - like every other console.
Why are you singling out the XBOX in this way?
Do you really want me to draw up a list of every forthcoming title?
Sun 12/05/02 at 12:15
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"possibly impossible"
Posts: 24,985
Sony did well in releasing the PS2 so early, despite their hugely dissapointing launch line up. They now have tons of games out for their console, where the other two are still dealing with launch titles and the promise of sweet new games to come before Christmas.

That said, there is hardly anything in the forthcoming PS2 line up that catches my eye beyond what is already available on the PC and those titles coming out across all the formats. This is quite worrying for Sony fans, but I'm guessing Sony will remain as competitive as ever and pull something out of the hat.

Needless to say, though, both X-box and Gamecube have some way to go before you can start writing either one of them off and their future titles are still looking hot.
Sun 12/05/02 at 12:13
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Posts: 10,437
After the brilliant launch line up, there isn't really anything that would get me excited.

But with the GameCube, we have so many more titles to look forward to. Celda, Mario Kart/Golf/Tennis/Party 4/Sunshine, Metroid Prime, Resident Evil, StarFox Adventures, Animal Forest plus and more.

PS2 fans can look forward to Smackdown 4 and GTA 4 (A while away, but promising). But then again the PS2 has been out for ages now, so most games are out.

It's a very good console, yet the games have somewhat let me down as a gamer, where are they?
Sun 12/05/02 at 12:07
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Posts: 3,182
The XBOX has only been on the European shelves for 7 weeks, so I think it's a bit premature to say that my XBOX dreams have been "shattered".

How was the PS2 games' line-up doing after 7 weeks - er, considerably more badly.

The forthcoming XBOX preview list is looking very promising indeed.
My dreams are definately NOT shattered.


I will only judge a console after it's been in existence for 18 months.
Sun 12/05/02 at 12:00
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Posts: 5,630
I agree with you...that is the reason that Microsoft alledgedly tried to buy Sega, because of the cast iron guarantee of great games, as well as an injection of credibility and appeal from the buyers perspective. Sega are making games for them, but like you said its not enough to make you want to switch consoles. As things stand, I think the next bug game for the Xbox could be a long time coming. And Halo 2 doesn't count.

:)
Sun 12/05/02 at 11:57
Regular
Posts: 10,437
As many of you know, the X-Box had one of best launch line ups ever, which was only second best to the GameCube's. It included the amazing Halo, Jet Set Radio: Future, Project Gotham Racing and more fairly good titles to back up these smash hits. But after you've finished these, which could be some time if you've got Halo, there's nothing else. After all the fame and fortune from the launch line up, good games seemed to stop dead. I honestly couldn't name anymore well known classic games after that.

The X-Box is a perfectly capable machine - don't get me wrong. When you look at the technical specification compared to Playstation 2 and GameCube it blows them out of the water. A huge Polygon count of 116 million compared to GameCube's 12 million and PS2's 66 million. It's processor is twice as fast as the PS2 and a fair bit faster than the GC. Plus with much higher music and memory capabilities, surely this would be the console to get, no? No.

Do you know why that is? All hardcore, or at least long time, gamers should know that Tech Specs is just something fancy to show off about. What really matters is the games.

This console has, and always will have, huge possibilities for making great games and getting a good market. But they do need more than they have. They need a lot more classic games after the brilliant launch line up. Halo's all well and good but not for the rest of the year. Maybe if they got some games with some serious beats on them to show off their high music capabilities. But that's much easier said than done.

If they want to get some good games that stand out in a crowd, they'll need to get some reliable exclusive second party developers or some exclusive signings. Something that would make someone change their format. Getting GTA3 and MGS2 is all good, but PS2 owners won't buy an X-Box for them.

The Big N have Rare and Resident Evil, which would make me and Resident Evil lovers buy the console, in fact, that's the main reason I did. I thought Veronica X looked brilliant, but not just that, all the exclusive deals like Starfox Adventures and Metroid Prime, how could I resist? Mean while with the X-Box, I may crave to play Halo, but it's just not enough to make me switch formats. I wouldn't give up Res Evil and Rare classics for one game. Microsoft need some deals!

In terms of games for the X-Box, things don't look good, but there is something they could do. Surely most, if not all, of the PC games could be ported across to the X-Box. If this happened many PC lovers were maybe get an X-Box for both PC and X-Box games. It seems logical, but then, who are they competing with? Themselves, it may boost X-Box sales, but wouldn't PC's stop selling? Of course not, everyone needs a PC for something, whether it's writer on Word, creating databases, you name it, PC's have it.

Halo's already being ported across to the PC, so ports to the X-Box could work.

So maybe for all you X-Boxers out there, there may not be shattered dreams, but it all depends on how Microsoft go about it.

Thanks for reading

RiCkOsS

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