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So I want to upgrade my motherboard. Upgrading the motherboard isn't like upgrading other parts where you just remove the part in question and replace it with a newer one. The motherboard governs everything connected to it, especially in my case where new mobos support completely different connectors which aren't supported by pretty much all of my current hardware. I also need a firewire port, seeing as I'm studying Interactive Media.
So, really, multiple graphics cards is just an extra thing which is currently interesting me for the gaming (and perhaps production) side of things. Is it really worth it? How exactly does SLI or CrossFire work? If I set up two cards with, say, 512MB of onboard RAM together, is that like having a 1GB card? What things od I have to consider and how much of a benefit will it be?
I'm currently looking at two motherboards: the GA-MA770-S3 and the GA-MA790FX-DS5.
Also, whilst I'm at it, is AM2+ a better choice than LGA775? I want my computer to be relatively future proof, seeing as the current one only lasted about 3 years before needing this upgrade due to lack of hardware support. I intend to install a quad core processor, but I may not do that straight away. I think, instead of jumping in straight to quad core, I might settle for a dual-core processor and then upgrade when quads become a bit cheaper and more abundant.
Many thanks for any input. :)
I know I will eventually. It's just that my current computer is the first one I ever built myself, and 3 years just doesn't seem long enough. I know that's the problem with technology is that it advances too quick, but I'd like to be sure that my computer is set to last, or can be upgraded without a completely new build like this, for a while.
I'd be perfectly happy to buy that board because it satisfies all of my needs, if it weren't for that little bit of uncertainty.
Edit: Oops, link might help! Here. Sells for around £70 now.
Any suggestions? Here's what I need/want:
- No parallel port, it takes up too much space where USB ports could go. Plus I have no use for it.
- Ditto for VGA. I'll be using a plugin graphics card anyway.
- Ditto for serial. I don't use it.
- Must have as many USB ports as possible on the back panel, and at least one internal header so I can set up the two ports on the top of my case. Most boards have more than one header for USB anyway.
- Must have at least one firewire port; if not o nthe back panel, then as a header for the firewire port that's on the top of my case.
- ATX or MicroATX, I don't mind, although I'd like there to be enough room/expansion slots available for me to change hardware. I do that quite a bit. Maybe three PCI and 3 PCI-E x1 or something. If it has two PCI-E x16 slots, that's also fine. As long as a PCI-E card is small enough to fit the slot, it'll work.
- 3 fan headers; not including CPU fan. That's 4 then.
- I don't mind if the board is compatible with DDR3 or not, but I'd like it to take at least 8GB of DDR2. If it takes DDR3, then good. It's futureproofed a bit more. That's why I like Gigabyte's AM2(+) boards. They support up to 16GB.
And that's about it really. Ideally, 2 PATA connectors would also be good, but boards with two are very difficult to come by now, so one will do. New hard drives or disc drives are hardly expensive.
That's another reason why I like the Gigabyte AM2+ boards - they satisfied all my criteria there that I just listed.
You might want to read this. The Wolfdale CPUs are the next generation in Intels Core2 lineup. They are now using a 45nm (nanometer) manufacturing process, which make the CPU more efficient in terms of power wastage and also offer a whole host of other improvements.
Now, if you don't mind me asking, what's the difference between Conroe and Warfdale?
It's confirmed that AMD are working on the AM3 socket which, when released, may see many fixes in the new processors that work with it, but with Intel, s far as I can find, there is no info about the next Intel CPU socket, which probably means it'll be different, so I'll have to change the motherboard again possibly if I want ot upgrade the CPU.
All in all, the main reason is that my old motherboard only supports old connectors which aren't really used anymore: AGP, IDE, socket 478. It also lacks any form of IEEE 1394 connector, which I need for my coursework. There isn't even an internal header for connecting a front-panel firewire port.
So I think, based on that, I'll be sticking with AMD. Please tell me if there's anything else I shoukld consider though.
And multiple core processors rely on the O/S and programs to take advantage of the extra cores. Its not an automatic process so no a quad core isnt the equivalent of a 8.8GHz single core.
I can get a 3.2GHz AMD Athlon X2 from Overclockers for about £111, but the cheapest Core 2 Quad that I can find is £160.
It's the price which is putting me off the Core 2 Quads, even though the combined price of an Athlon 64 X2 and a Phenom will almost certainly be higher.
So if I was to buy a 2.2GHz quad core, would that actually mean that I get the performance of an 8.8GHz unicore CPU?
I now see that Intel's CPUs have better bus speeds and cache sizes. It just doesn't seem right upgrading from a 3.2GHz unicore to a 2.2GHz quad core.
> Really though - would a notice a difference between Intel and
> AMD CPUs of similar spec?
Well thats a purely subjective thing. Really all anybody can do is tell you what the best value for money is. To me personally, it makes no sense to buy a dual core AMD 6400+ when you can buy a E6750 Intel processor for £10 more that runs faster, cooler, and consumes less power. Only you can judge how important that £10 is though. And just for reference, nice comparison table.
> I guess it makes sense to go
> straight for quad, but that's one of my main problems - I know
> AMDs quad cores are bad ... at the moment. That's why I'm
> undecided over whther i should start with dual core and upgrade,
> or just splash out on a quad core straight away.
I think the problem is your obsession with AMD. ;) Does it really matter what the brand of your processor is? I've gone back and forth between buying AMD and Intel processors since the "war" started. I buy the best in my budget, I've not going to miss out on extra performance for the sake of sticking to one brand. And at the high end of the market, intel has better dual cores and quad cores are too.
Really though - would a notice a difference between Intel and AMD CPUs of similar spec? I'm still undecided on whether to jump straight in with a quad core, or get myself a decent-enough dual core, then upgrade to quad later. I guess it makes sense to go straight for quad, but that's one of my main problems - I know AMDs quad cores are bad ... at the moment. That's why I'm undecided over whther i should start with dual core and upgrade, or just splash out on a quad core straight away.