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"God I hate you mum! It's so unfair!"

This is why “nu-metal” is cheesy crap and appeals to the lowest and easiest target-market:
Sulky, confused male-teens shut in their bedrooms thinking everyone hates them when everyone is just wondering why little Timmy is such a grumpy tool.
And one of the worst offenders of this shouty-shorts rock is Papa Roach.
Now if you like them, I’m not having a dig at you, I’m merely saying that Papa Roach are at the vanguard of contrived red-faced running-upstairs-and-slamming-the-door rock.
Rock is supposed to be about having fun, drinking with your mates, enjoying life and realising that god gave rock and roll to you.
It’s not meant to be an outlet for teen angst, go buy Alanis Morisette for that sort of thing. Hey man, she like…totally feels your disaffected discombobulation. Buy her records and empathise with the knowledge that she may be a multi-millionairess but she feels your pain.

Rock is a celebration of big loud fun.
If I go to a rock gig, I want to stand there with a big grin on ma face and shout along with an arm around my mate’s shoulder as we quaff cold beer and stare at boobs. I don’t want to wear a hoodie and pretend that life sucks “man” and “Life’s Not Fair”.
I’m there to singalong and go home feeling happy because I’ve spent the past 90 mins in the company of rock.
Rock = Ruling the world with riffs. It’s being allowed the chance to live a life you want to, so bloody celebrate that instead of writing songs about how much jobs suck and isn’t it all so tough.

That’s why I love Clutch.
They absolutely have the right idea. The music is riotous, loud and makes you feel happy. But not happy in a “Aren’t S-Club just the greatest!!!” kind of stupid happy.
But happy because you know they’re having a fantastic time recording that, and if you ever see them live, the singer spends most of the gig with a big stupid grin and dancing like an old man, high-fiving the audience at the front of the stage.,
Grix can tell you, they may be loud but damn if they don’t play the funky tunes. Not James Brown funky (although that too is good), but raw dirty-blues tinged funky tunes.

So on the one hand, you have a bunch of guys in jeans making music for the sakes of it, fantastic tunes you can tap along to and play when the sun is out and you have mates in the garden barbecuing.
Or you can listen to guys being profesionally cynical and writing songs about how rubbish everything is, a designed contrived and ultimately silly outlook. Because boys outgrow that “I hate you” phase and move into “I rule”, exactly like Kevin the Teenager from Harry Enfield.
Check the lyrics below for an example of what rock is and should be.
Clutch singing “Pure Rock Fury”. A celebration of nonsensical rockness.

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“Hands down the illest ventriloquist this side of the Mississippi River
That’s right operator smoother than faders on an automated sound board
Andretti’s never raced me but if he want’s to?
Oh I’m ready, ready
Co-ordination of the eye and hand is not my strong point
But I make due with what I have

Pure Rock Fury the solution is so clear
Calling all humans and able volunteers

Hotter than Abba in Nevada sun in a real small car with the windows rolled up
No super trooper because you pooped your pants and you’re screaming
Oh please just give me one more chance”

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And now check out Papa Roach, singing about how goshdarned unfair it is that his favourite girl won’t appreciate him and doesn’t-that-just-make-you-want-to-cry?

“What I feel, what's the deal girl
We're tearin' up each others world
We should be in harmony boy and girl
That is a promise we made
Back in the day
You told me that things wouldn't be this way
I think we should work this out
'Cause all I didn't mean is to scream and shout

Life's not fair!
Life's not fair!
Life's not fair!
I'm the jerk!
Life's not fair!
She loves me not!
Loves me not!

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Now I ask you, Pure Rock Fury? Or snotty-nosed, juddery-breath sulky whines about being treated harshly?
And if you’re not sure, wait until puberty is over and you’ll see life doesn’t suck, it’s just everyone is avoiding you precisely because you’re a moany skaterboarder.
Lighten up, open your curtain, wash that gel out of your hair and stop getting Henna tattoos at festivals, because we’re not paying any attention anymore.
We’re over here rocking.

HEY HEY NOW WHAT’S THAT SMELL?

Play Tower of Power, its better than James Brown, who is in turn better than rock music.

Thats fact, not opinion. I have proof.

Thank you goatboy for insulting Papa Roach. Can I put in a request that you insult Alien Ant Farm next?

ill still listen to Papa roach no matter what anyone says,so therem Goatboy

Mouldy Cheese wrote:
> Hum.
>
> I have to say that I was into Papa Roach in a big way last Summer, but
> I went back to the CD a few weeks ago and a lot of it sucked in a big,
> cheesey way.


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I'm listening to Papa Roach - Between Angels & Insects right now. I don't just listen to one band, I stick Winamp on shuffle and listen to my entire collection, all 480 of 'em (used to have more but I had to delete some because of the size of my hard drive at the time)

Hum.

I have to say that I was into Papa Roach in a big way last Summer, but I went back to the CD a few weeks ago and a lot of it sucked in a big, cheesey way.

'I know my mother loves me, but does my father even care?
When I was sad or angry, you were never ever there'

Followed by a big crappy scream.

I disagree with other things you said though...depressing music can be pretty good, Radiohead and Manic Street Cleaners for example. Albums that are constant 'happy, jump around' music can start to blend into a big mishmash - you need a bit of variaty.

I think these people need some 80's classic rock..........

Yes, some Bon Jovi, Meatloaf and Aerosmith is on order

;)

Smells like cornbread done too well.

Insane Bartender wrote:
> I like house music

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I read that then didn't bother reading the rest of your post. I know it won't be interesting or intelligent

I like house music so I can go to clubs at 11pm, and leave at 6am, having watched people drug themselves up to their eyeballs, and bounce around like spring lambs, until they collapse in sweaty heaps, while I just dance the night away.

Well, I like it for more reasons than that, but that is certainly one of them.

Goatboy wrote:

> I’m there to singalong and go home feeling happy because I’ve spent
> the past 90 mins in the company of rock.

Yay. Exactly why i like the bands I do. I can singalong with a big smile on my face, and just enjoy it.