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Sat 14/10/00 at 16:37
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I have stayed calm when Sony claimed that it was the best console on the market. I didn't get too annoyed when Sony said that they didn't need a single game to sell loads of consoles, after all the publicity of Crash bandicoot in America. I turned my back on them when, in an American advert, they had a man dressed up as Crash playing a bullhorn and dancing outside Nintendo US headquarters.

But now...

I do not mind people buying Playstation 2, they will have a few good games, and I respect that. HOWEVER. I HATE SONY.

Nintendo were known as the "bully" of the games market with the NES, bullying third parties into developing for them only, but now Sony have claimed that title.

Sony held its Editors day about two weeks back, I read. They started off the presentation with a large group of editors with a few graphs, rubbishly made with PowerPoint. The slides came up with a graph, which Sony claimed that they had "interviewed" 18 publishers, the graph was titled "And PlayStation 2 Will Own A Dominant Market Share" and the graph showed that 0% of developers had voted that Dreamcast and Nintendo were the best, 6% had voted Microsoft, and the rest Sony.
There was an errie silence in the room, not my words, but a MSNBC reporter’s words. Someone asked: "How many developers did you ask before you came with those figures?" Laughter of editors. Silence of Sony.

Then the questioning, or interrogation, came.
"There are reports from Japanese gamers that the DVD player does not work correctly in Japan. Will the units in the US work properly?"
Straight to the point, I think. The answer:
"We are unaware of any problems in Japan."
That’s listening to customers for you. Everyone knows of the problem in Japan with the DVD players, everyone except Sony of course.
Remember when they said that the processor could "power missiles"! HA, even an AMD K7 could do that! As always, the advertising paid off, even though people were following without their intelligence.
Next:
"I have noticed that only one game due for release is actually made by Sony. (The firework "strategy" game.) I was just wondering if you could discuss the outlook for your software publishing and what kind of market on PlayStation 2 you are looking to get?”

Another straight to the point question. Once again:
"I don’t think we are going to make predictions here in terms of market shares, that’s always a very risky thing to do."

And to counter that "risky prediction" reply:

"I was noticing on some of your forecast slides the underperformance you expect out of consoles like the Gamecube and the X-Box. On one of the slides you put a big, fat zero in front of the Dreamcast. If there’s one thing the American consumer likes to do more than build a company up, it’s to tear it right back down. Do you have any sophomore jinxes? You have any concerns that maybe your time is due?”

Nicely put, I think. Sony replied:
"What I was trying to say is that the publisher community has great confidence in our platform and perhaps not too much confidence in some of the others that are going to be around then."
Someone muttered in the background: "Or perhaps the sample 17 of them..."

In case you are wondering the fate of Nintendo or Sega, here is a little fact for you. No games company has had two consecutive runs for the top of the console wars.
First was Nintendo, who stole the competition from Sega with the NES. Next, Sega managed to beat Nintendo with the Megadrive. Then Sony, with the Playstation.
Next? I say Nintendo or X-Box. Sega won't die, they will hang on well, and MANY publishers trust them, so don't let the "average" sample fool you from Sony.

As I said, I have no bias towards any console, but I have HAD IT with Sony.

By the way, for all those Sony devotees that will read this and become very angry, all I say is the truth, 100%. So arguing against this, is arguing against fact.
Sat 14/10/00 at 17:00
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I can't see Rare ever leaving Nintendo, I wasn't suprised when Namco and Square fell out with Nintendo, but they're beginning to make friends again now.
I have a N64 too, and want a Dreamcast for Christmas. And if you hadn't already guessed, not because I won't be able to get a PS2.
Sat 14/10/00 at 16:54
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Posts: 9,848
I've got an N64 and I think I'll stay with Nintendo through to the Gamecube (As long as Rare are owned by Nintendo still)
Sat 14/10/00 at 16:51
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Most wars start over religion. Even though all religions, to my knowledge, state that you must not kill.
Thanks for that anyway Dan_UK. What will you be buying in the future, console wise? Or what do you own now?
Sat 14/10/00 at 16:44
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Posts: 9,848
The problem with this message is that the people who need to hear it don't listen and the people who read it know it anyway.
There's no need to be so angry, just settle down and comfort yourslef in the knowledge that anyone who buys a PS2 against all advice wastes £300 no matter what advertising gets put into it.
Sat 14/10/00 at 16:37
Posts: 0
I have stayed calm when Sony claimed that it was the best console on the market. I didn't get too annoyed when Sony said that they didn't need a single game to sell loads of consoles, after all the publicity of Crash bandicoot in America. I turned my back on them when, in an American advert, they had a man dressed up as Crash playing a bullhorn and dancing outside Nintendo US headquarters.

But now...

I do not mind people buying Playstation 2, they will have a few good games, and I respect that. HOWEVER. I HATE SONY.

Nintendo were known as the "bully" of the games market with the NES, bullying third parties into developing for them only, but now Sony have claimed that title.

Sony held its Editors day about two weeks back, I read. They started off the presentation with a large group of editors with a few graphs, rubbishly made with PowerPoint. The slides came up with a graph, which Sony claimed that they had "interviewed" 18 publishers, the graph was titled "And PlayStation 2 Will Own A Dominant Market Share" and the graph showed that 0% of developers had voted that Dreamcast and Nintendo were the best, 6% had voted Microsoft, and the rest Sony.
There was an errie silence in the room, not my words, but a MSNBC reporter’s words. Someone asked: "How many developers did you ask before you came with those figures?" Laughter of editors. Silence of Sony.

Then the questioning, or interrogation, came.
"There are reports from Japanese gamers that the DVD player does not work correctly in Japan. Will the units in the US work properly?"
Straight to the point, I think. The answer:
"We are unaware of any problems in Japan."
That’s listening to customers for you. Everyone knows of the problem in Japan with the DVD players, everyone except Sony of course.
Remember when they said that the processor could "power missiles"! HA, even an AMD K7 could do that! As always, the advertising paid off, even though people were following without their intelligence.
Next:
"I have noticed that only one game due for release is actually made by Sony. (The firework "strategy" game.) I was just wondering if you could discuss the outlook for your software publishing and what kind of market on PlayStation 2 you are looking to get?”

Another straight to the point question. Once again:
"I don’t think we are going to make predictions here in terms of market shares, that’s always a very risky thing to do."

And to counter that "risky prediction" reply:

"I was noticing on some of your forecast slides the underperformance you expect out of consoles like the Gamecube and the X-Box. On one of the slides you put a big, fat zero in front of the Dreamcast. If there’s one thing the American consumer likes to do more than build a company up, it’s to tear it right back down. Do you have any sophomore jinxes? You have any concerns that maybe your time is due?”

Nicely put, I think. Sony replied:
"What I was trying to say is that the publisher community has great confidence in our platform and perhaps not too much confidence in some of the others that are going to be around then."
Someone muttered in the background: "Or perhaps the sample 17 of them..."

In case you are wondering the fate of Nintendo or Sega, here is a little fact for you. No games company has had two consecutive runs for the top of the console wars.
First was Nintendo, who stole the competition from Sega with the NES. Next, Sega managed to beat Nintendo with the Megadrive. Then Sony, with the Playstation.
Next? I say Nintendo or X-Box. Sega won't die, they will hang on well, and MANY publishers trust them, so don't let the "average" sample fool you from Sony.

As I said, I have no bias towards any console, but I have HAD IT with Sony.

By the way, for all those Sony devotees that will read this and become very angry, all I say is the truth, 100%. So arguing against this, is arguing against fact.

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