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I have stayed calm when Sony claimed that it was the best console on the market. I didn't get too annoyed when Sony said that they didn't need a single game to sell loads of consoles, after all the publicity of Crash bandicoot in America. I turned my back on them when, in an American advert, they had a man dressed up as Crash playing a bullhorn and dancing outside Nintendo US headquarters.
But now...
I do not mind people buying Playstation 2, they will have a few good games, and I respect that. HOWEVER. I HATE SONY.
Nintendo were known as the "bully" of the games market with the NES, bullying third parties into developing for them only, but now Sony have claimed that title.
Sony held its Editors day about two weeks back, I read. They started off the presentation with a large group of editors with a few graphs, rubbishly made with PowerPoint. The slides came up with a graph, which Sony claimed that they had "interviewed" 18 publishers, the graph was titled "And PlayStation 2 Will Own A Dominant Market Share" and the graph showed that 0% of developers had voted that Dreamcast and Nintendo were the best, 6% had voted Microsoft, and the rest Sony.
There was an errie silence in the room, not my words, but a MSNBC reporter’s words. Someone asked: "How many developers did you ask before you came with those figures?" Laughter of editors. Silence of Sony.
Then the questioning, or interrogation, came.
"There are reports from Japanese gamers that the DVD player does not work correctly in Japan. Will the units in the US work properly?"
Straight to the point, I think. The answer:
"We are unaware of any problems in Japan."
That’s listening to customers for you. Everyone knows of the problem in Japan with the DVD players, everyone except Sony of course.
Remember when they said that the processor could "power missiles"! HA, even an AMD K7 could do that! As always, the advertising paid off, even though people were following without their intelligence.
Next:
"I have noticed that only one game due for release is actually made by Sony. (The firework "strategy" game.) I was just wondering if you could discuss the outlook for your software publishing and what kind of market on PlayStation 2 you are looking to get?”
Another straight to the point question. Once again:
"I don’t think we are going to make predictions here in terms of market shares, that’s always a very risky thing to do."
And to counter that "risky prediction" reply:
"I was noticing on some of your forecast slides the underperformance you expect out of consoles like the Gamecube and the X-Box. On one of the slides you put a big, fat zero in front of the Dreamcast. If there’s one thing the American consumer likes to do more than build a company up, it’s to tear it right back down. Do you have any sophomore jinxes? You have any concerns that maybe your time is due?”
Nicely put, I think. Sony replied:
"What I was trying to say is that the publisher community has great confidence in our platform and perhaps not too much confidence in some of the others that are going to be around then."
Someone muttered in the background: "Or perhaps the sample 17 of them..."
In case you are wondering the fate of Nintendo or Sega, here is a little fact for you. No games company has had two consecutive runs for the top of the console wars.
First was Nintendo, who stole the competition from Sega with the NES. Next, Sega managed to beat Nintendo with the Megadrive. Then Sony, with the Playstation.
Next? I say Nintendo or X-Box. Sega won't die, they will hang on well, and MANY publishers trust them, so don't let the "average" sample fool you from Sony.
As I said, I have no bias towards any console, but I have HAD IT with Sony.
By the way, for all those Sony devotees that will read this and become very angry, all I say is the truth, 100%. So arguing against this, is arguing against fact.
But now...
I do not mind people buying Playstation 2, they will have a few good games, and I respect that. HOWEVER. I HATE SONY.
Nintendo were known as the "bully" of the games market with the NES, bullying third parties into developing for them only, but now Sony have claimed that title.
Sony held its Editors day about two weeks back, I read. They started off the presentation with a large group of editors with a few graphs, rubbishly made with PowerPoint. The slides came up with a graph, which Sony claimed that they had "interviewed" 18 publishers, the graph was titled "And PlayStation 2 Will Own A Dominant Market Share" and the graph showed that 0% of developers had voted that Dreamcast and Nintendo were the best, 6% had voted Microsoft, and the rest Sony.
There was an errie silence in the room, not my words, but a MSNBC reporter’s words. Someone asked: "How many developers did you ask before you came with those figures?" Laughter of editors. Silence of Sony.
Then the questioning, or interrogation, came.
"There are reports from Japanese gamers that the DVD player does not work correctly in Japan. Will the units in the US work properly?"
Straight to the point, I think. The answer:
"We are unaware of any problems in Japan."
That’s listening to customers for you. Everyone knows of the problem in Japan with the DVD players, everyone except Sony of course.
Remember when they said that the processor could "power missiles"! HA, even an AMD K7 could do that! As always, the advertising paid off, even though people were following without their intelligence.
Next:
"I have noticed that only one game due for release is actually made by Sony. (The firework "strategy" game.) I was just wondering if you could discuss the outlook for your software publishing and what kind of market on PlayStation 2 you are looking to get?”
Another straight to the point question. Once again:
"I don’t think we are going to make predictions here in terms of market shares, that’s always a very risky thing to do."
And to counter that "risky prediction" reply:
"I was noticing on some of your forecast slides the underperformance you expect out of consoles like the Gamecube and the X-Box. On one of the slides you put a big, fat zero in front of the Dreamcast. If there’s one thing the American consumer likes to do more than build a company up, it’s to tear it right back down. Do you have any sophomore jinxes? You have any concerns that maybe your time is due?”
Nicely put, I think. Sony replied:
"What I was trying to say is that the publisher community has great confidence in our platform and perhaps not too much confidence in some of the others that are going to be around then."
Someone muttered in the background: "Or perhaps the sample 17 of them..."
In case you are wondering the fate of Nintendo or Sega, here is a little fact for you. No games company has had two consecutive runs for the top of the console wars.
First was Nintendo, who stole the competition from Sega with the NES. Next, Sega managed to beat Nintendo with the Megadrive. Then Sony, with the Playstation.
Next? I say Nintendo or X-Box. Sega won't die, they will hang on well, and MANY publishers trust them, so don't let the "average" sample fool you from Sony.
As I said, I have no bias towards any console, but I have HAD IT with Sony.
By the way, for all those Sony devotees that will read this and become very angry, all I say is the truth, 100%. So arguing against this, is arguing against fact.
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Fair enough - all I'm saying is why single out Sony? We now know from the posts here that ALL the companies have played their little dirty-tricks games at some point.
I honestly think that many fans of the long-established manufacturers (i.e. Sega and Nintendo) are genuinely immature enough to be narked at the fact that Sony came along with the PlayStation and stole their thunder.
Therefore, Sony are portrayed as some megabucks ogre who has no real interest in their customers, and are only in it for the money.
Well, news-flash, people - ALL of these companies are in it for the money. Yes, they ALL want to make great games, and they'd all like to be the number one choice. But the primary reason for that is to rake in the cash, not because they care more about the gamers than any of their competitors.
Sony started a revolution in gaming by aiming their first console at an older age group. It was a major gamble, but it paid off big time.
Now, Sega and Nintendo are catching up, and we're getting more than just kiddie games on their new platforms - they've realised they have to aim higher to compete. So, the 128-bit machines should be a much closer battle.
The hardcore gamers among us should all hope that no single manufacturer acheieves total dominance in the long run, because that will be a disaster for us all. Decent competition is what drives the industry forward, resulting in better machines and games for us all.
If any single console manufacturer acheieves total dominance, we will be left with a situation where we will have to put up with any rubbish that company wants to turn out, simply because there is no viable alternative.
If you want proof, just look at what Microsoft have done to the home computer industry. Windows is a bloated leviathan of an operating system, requiring ever larger hard drives, more powerful processors and graphics cards in order to run smoothly.
The Amiga, launched in the 80's, did everything that the latest Windows versions can do, but in a much smaller, streamlined and efficient manner. It had AutoConfig (which was like Plug n Pray, except that it worked), and had a truly multi-tasking operating system - something which Windows still can't manage to this day.
The Amiga was a masterpiece of a machine that was sadly left to fall by the wayside. Now we are left with PC's running Windows, which we are more or less forced to use, simply because Microsoft were allowed to achieve more or less total dominance.
So, if you want the equivalent to happen in the console world, keep wishing for the demise of every console manufacturer but your favourite. I guarantee you'll regret it in the long run.
I honestly think that many fans of the long-established manufacturers (i.e. Sega and Nintendo) are genuinely immature enough to be narked at the fact that Sony came along with the PlayStation and stole their thunder.
Therefore, Sony are portrayed as some megabucks ogre who has no real interest in their customers, and are only in it for the money.
Well, news-flash, people - ALL of these companies are in it for the money. Yes, they ALL want to make great games, and they'd all like to be the number one choice. But the primary reason for that is to rake in the cash, not because they care more about the gamers than any of their competitors.
Sony started a revolution in gaming by aiming their first console at an older age group. It was a major gamble, but it paid off big time.
Now, Sega and Nintendo are catching up, and we're getting more than just kiddie games on their new platforms - they've realised they have to aim higher to compete. So, the 128-bit machines should be a much closer battle.
The hardcore gamers among us should all hope that no single manufacturer acheieves total dominance in the long run, because that will be a disaster for us all. Decent competition is what drives the industry forward, resulting in better machines and games for us all.
If any single console manufacturer acheieves total dominance, we will be left with a situation where we will have to put up with any rubbish that company wants to turn out, simply because there is no viable alternative.
If you want proof, just look at what Microsoft have done to the home computer industry. Windows is a bloated leviathan of an operating system, requiring ever larger hard drives, more powerful processors and graphics cards in order to run smoothly.
The Amiga, launched in the 80's, did everything that the latest Windows versions can do, but in a much smaller, streamlined and efficient manner. It had AutoConfig (which was like Plug n Pray, except that it worked), and had a truly multi-tasking operating system - something which Windows still can't manage to this day.
The Amiga was a masterpiece of a machine that was sadly left to fall by the wayside. Now we are left with PC's running Windows, which we are more or less forced to use, simply because Microsoft were allowed to achieve more or less total dominance.
So, if you want the equivalent to happen in the console world, keep wishing for the demise of every console manufacturer but your favourite. I guarantee you'll regret it in the long run.
Babylonian. Leave him/her alone, hes made a good point, I don't think s/hes biased at all, and I think s/he hates Sony for more reasons than just the advert.
What else has Sega done to upset anyone though? Nintendo have done much worse in the past.
What else has Sega done to upset anyone though? Nintendo have done much worse in the past.
Indeed it is - I meant URL's etc for us to read for ourselves.
Also, this...
>I turned my back on them when, in an American advert,
>they had a man dressed up as Crash playing a bullhorn
>and dancing outside Nintendo US headquarters.
Presumably, then you also hate Sega for the BBQ'ing of Crash dolls at the Dreamcast launch? Or is that okay because it fits in with your hatred of Sony?
Also, this...
>I turned my back on them when, in an American advert,
>they had a man dressed up as Crash playing a bullhorn
>and dancing outside Nintendo US headquarters.
Presumably, then you also hate Sega for the BBQ'ing of Crash dolls at the Dreamcast launch? Or is that okay because it fits in with your hatred of Sony?
And we thought Sega was being immature for burning Crash! Well wrote Tigres! I do agree with you, about Sony being the new Nintendo, (As do I).
Thats my brain by the way, the writing in commas, he likes to contribute as well. (You seem as insanely mad as I, if not moreso.)
The fighting out in Jeruselem, it is Jeruselem isn't it? Thats about religion too. I think I understand why you said it, because people contradicting themselves very serverly, or something like that.
(I bet you're wrong...)
Thats my brain by the way, the writing in commas, he likes to contribute as well. (You seem as insanely mad as I, if not moreso.)
The fighting out in Jeruselem, it is Jeruselem isn't it? Thats about religion too. I think I understand why you said it, because people contradicting themselves very serverly, or something like that.
(I bet you're wrong...)
I'm confused is Tigres a new name for Tigerblade or has he left?
There's another reason why I want the Gamecube-
The Broadband Adaptor.
Internet speeds like you've never seen before!
That's partly why I wrote that clan wars topic.
The Broadband Adaptor.
Internet speeds like you've never seen before!
That's partly why I wrote that clan wars topic.
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