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Fri 21/11/14 at 11:27
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The Service Status page showed that webserver 4 was having some maintenance carried out yesterday.

I happened to notice some old CGI scripts I use failing this morning on a server 4 website.

Poking about I found that some file permissions have changed from 766 to 744.

This has happened on numerous server 4 sites.
After changing the file permission on the failing script everything is running again.

Freeola, thanks for posting this maintenance work. Without seeing that I would have been scratching my head for a lot longer!

Can you say what the maintenance was and if you will be doing it to all the other web servers in the future?

[s]Hmmm...[/s]

EDIT:
I thought this was worth a forum post rather than a support ticket as I'm all sorted and others may find it useful if they are affected :¬)
Thu 04/12/14 at 16:36
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Thanks.
Server 2 looks better.

**I've updated my local .htaccess files relating to .htpasswd -
if there have been any other permanent changes made at your end please let me know so I can update my backup files**


FYI Server 0 - .htpasswd also fails.
EDIT: Now working after changing 'path'.

I've just started using
<?echo $_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT']; ?> where I can see the server path that I've been using for years has changed as you posted.
I would only have been using the 'weblinks' one from documentation here...
The above command shows the new format with the server number added:
/freeola/users/7/weblinks/www.mysite.co.uk

[s]Hmmm...[/s]
Thu 04/12/14 at 16:27
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I've corrected the issues on your site. The "official" server path has not changed /freeola/users/0/0/sr010000 . However looks like some people have been using /freeola/users/weblinks/www.mywebsite.com
which has changed to be /freeola/users/0/weblinks/www.mywebsite.com

The sendmail issue appears to be that the new MTA does not like you supplying the -F flag. I've turned that off in your config, and I'll take a look at whether we can set a compatibility flag rather than erroring. Don't think its a common issue as I've been watching the errors on the MTA log and this one generates a very specific error.
Thu 04/12/14 at 16:11
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Hmmm... wrote:
Server 2.

I've just found that a Tectite formmail script is currently failing:
"An error occurred while processing the form."

Hopefully this is just while you are performing 'maintenance' as I see the status page says this server is currently being worked on?

I know Freeola also like Tectite so hope this hasn't been broken...

Thanks.
[s]Hmmm...[/s]

EDIT: Raised Ticket 201747.






To add to my woes...
Password protection using .htpasswd has stopped working on server 2 since the 'maintenance'.

I've updated my support ticket.
Am I just unlucky or are others seeing these problems?

Has the server 'path' been changed as part of this maintenance I'm wondering?

[s]Hmmm...[/s]
Thu 04/12/14 at 14:26
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Server 2.

I've just found that a Tectite formmail script is currently failing:
"An error occurred while processing the form."

Hopefully this is just while you are performing 'maintenance' as I see the status page says this server is currently being worked on?

I know Freeola also like Tectite so hope this hasn't been broken...

Thanks.
[s]Hmmm...[/s]

EDIT: Raised Ticket 201747.
Mon 01/12/14 at 11:27
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Thanks for that.
I've just retested and things look as if they have returned to how they were before your 'maintenance'.
i.e. No reference to "uid1000" or "on behalf of" in the message.

:¬)
[s]Hmmm...[/s]


EDIT:
Previously there was quite a delay after a visitor clicked SEND while the form was processing, which was a bit of a pain as impatient visitors caused double submissions if they clicked more than once. The form now processes immediately which is great!
Mon 01/12/14 at 11:07
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Hmmm... wrote:
Hi Freeola,
I'm not sure if this is me or not but I 'think' it could be down to your changes. It's a newly re-written website so i'm not 100% sure...

Using the Freeola standard form-to-mail script I notice on webserver 4 the REPLY address shows as:

From: uid1000 [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]

Previously it just used to show as from the normal account used in the form.

EDIT:
I've just found that I see the "uid1000/on behalf of" text from sites running on server 4 and 7 (so far) - the message says 'freeolaweb4' for both servers.
NB. Not all email clients will show 'on behalf of'. Desktop MS Outlook does.

Let me know if you need more details.
[s]Hmmm...[/s]


I can't reproduce the reply address being the freeolaweb address As long as you supply a From: header (and the standard form to mail requires this), the return address should be the from address. I've checked it in Outlook 2010 and while I do see the On Behalf of , it still selects the correct address to reply to.

I've set our MTA to not add a sender address (which is what Outlook appears to use to decide to put the on behalf of prefix), and I think that will resolve your issue (unless I misunderstand)

The other part (freeolaweb4) is correct as is (we've consolidated the servers on to much more powerful hardware) and added some redundancy so that we can switch load around if required).
Fri 28/11/14 at 11:30
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Hi Freeola,
I'm not sure if this is me or not but I 'think' it could be down to your changes. It's a newly re-written website so i'm not 100% sure...

Using the Freeola standard form-to-mail script I notice on webserver 4 the REPLY address shows as:

From: uid1000 [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]

Previously it just used to show as from the normal account used in the form.

EDIT:
I've just found that I see the "uid1000/on behalf of" text from sites running on server 4 and 7 (so far) - the message says 'freeolaweb4' for both servers.
NB. Not all email clients will show 'on behalf of'. Desktop MS Outlook does.

Let me know if you need more details.
[s]Hmmm...[/s]
Tue 25/11/14 at 19:36
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Thanks for that info.
That is an old (but popular) site! All working now.

Surprised to see the file permissions change again...?
[s]Hmmm...[/s]
Tue 25/11/14 at 19:21
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This issue is now resolved - I'm sure you'll get a reply to your support ticket shortly...

It was related to the character set in use on the site you mentioned in your ticket. You'd declared the character set as 'windows-1252', which we hadn't added support for following the maintenance.

Support for this character set has now been added, so this shouldn't cause a problem when other servers are upgraded.
Tue 25/11/14 at 17:50
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Eccles wrote:
Thanks for the feedback. We'll try and get it sorted for next time...


The Status Page hasn't been updated, but I can see file permissions have changed on web server 5 sites like they did for 4 so I'm guessing the 'maintenance' has been carried out...?!


I'm seeing £ characters for sites on server 5 are now displaying corrupted.

I'll raise a ticket.
EDIT: Support Ticket=201536

[s]Hmmm...[/s]

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