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Despite what you may have heard from Belldandy and co, the Xbox is actually a big success! In fact, it may well be surpassing even MS's expectations!
Now, it was ALWAYS the case that the Xbox was to do very badly in Japan. It's games are marketted at a Western audience, and the Japanese just aren't receptive of foreign products. So it's failed there.
However, in America- the place where MS is aiming the console at, sales are really good! Not only has the console exceeded sales predictions by everyone (including MS), but the console continues to sell more hardware and software units than the less expensive GC. Of course, the PS2 sales will always be in front- Sony has the brand share and library of games already there.
At home, in Europe (Ok, so we're Brits, not Europeans!), the console is fairing fairly well. It has been critised that Xbox games aren't in the charts any more. Should the be? After all, there are litterally MILLIONS of PS2s out, and Sony will always have more game sales while the Xbox is at this early stage.
However, looking at the figures, for a post-christmas launch the console is bettering anything that's come before it. It's probably going to have a console share in europe equal to that of Ninty's- and Ninty are no small fry.
Overall, the Xbox looks to be bettering the 6 million consoles sold by July. It's failed in Japan, but has stolen America, and got an average share of Europe. All MS wanted with the console was to get SOME share of the market for the future- and they've got that. Indeed, they'll probably have a bigger share of the market that Ninty in 5 years time! When you consider that the Dreamcast, made by well-established Sega, failed then it's amazing the MS have cracked the market at all.
Sonic
Now, it was ALWAYS the case that the Xbox was to do very badly in Japan. It's games are marketted at a Western audience, and the Japanese just aren't receptive of foreign products. So it's failed there.
However, in America- the place where MS is aiming the console at, sales are really good! Not only has the console exceeded sales predictions by everyone (including MS), but the console continues to sell more hardware and software units than the less expensive GC. Of course, the PS2 sales will always be in front- Sony has the brand share and library of games already there.
At home, in Europe (Ok, so we're Brits, not Europeans!), the console is fairing fairly well. It has been critised that Xbox games aren't in the charts any more. Should the be? After all, there are litterally MILLIONS of PS2s out, and Sony will always have more game sales while the Xbox is at this early stage.
However, looking at the figures, for a post-christmas launch the console is bettering anything that's come before it. It's probably going to have a console share in europe equal to that of Ninty's- and Ninty are no small fry.
Overall, the Xbox looks to be bettering the 6 million consoles sold by July. It's failed in Japan, but has stolen America, and got an average share of Europe. All MS wanted with the console was to get SOME share of the market for the future- and they've got that. Indeed, they'll probably have a bigger share of the market that Ninty in 5 years time! When you consider that the Dreamcast, made by well-established Sega, failed then it's amazing the MS have cracked the market at all.
Sonic
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The Game wrote:
> Hmmmm... isn't it interesting how Sonic never puts his source down.
Sources:
*Sales figures taken from OFFICIAL and UNOFFICIAL sources
*Official predictions taken from official source (ie MS on announcing the Xbox months ago)
happy?
Where did
> you get the data from?
Isn't that the sources?
Maybe you're making it up to try and justify your
> reasons for buying an X-Box?
Don't have one, or plan to get one.
>Who knows...
I dunno? Do you
>I'm just saying....
Odd that
> Hmmmm... isn't it interesting how Sonic never puts his source down.
Sources:
*Sales figures taken from OFFICIAL and UNOFFICIAL sources
*Official predictions taken from official source (ie MS on announcing the Xbox months ago)
happy?
Where did
> you get the data from?
Isn't that the sources?
Maybe you're making it up to try and justify your
> reasons for buying an X-Box?
Don't have one, or plan to get one.
>Who knows...
I dunno? Do you
>I'm just saying....
Odd that
Sonic - where are your figures from ? Website address please.
Secondly - could I have a respone to my post in "Failure is not an option" .....
Secondly - could I have a respone to my post in "Failure is not an option" .....
Belldandy wrote:
You crack Japan, the rest of the world follows. You
> don't...then you fail.
This is pure nonsense. Firstly, Europe is actually the biggest region in terms of profits, with America second, and Japan last.
The reason that it appears that consoles need to win in Japan to do well elsewhere is that almost every memorable console release has been a Japanese one that has targetted Japan as it's main market.
MS has not done this at all. They have targetted America as the key market, and, as you'll know if you saw the latest sales figures, the console has cracked it extremely well! All their sales projections were based on a small Japanese market- granted the market for the console is far lower than MS predicted, but Japanese sales predictions didn't play a big part in MS's sales plan!
Microsoft could still do it but they've left it too
> long, and how many of Ms's shareholders are going to want to continue long term
> losses if Microsoft cannot turn the tide eh ?
Errr... why should MS share holders care? The Xbox is a TINY proportion of their business... I cannot believe for a minute that poeple will be unhappy because the biggest company in the world is making a loss in one of their items! Share value in the company hasn't been dented!
Nintendo
> have launched the Gamecube with a far better success and already hae a user base
> of over a million in Japan, more in America and it should have a great launch in
> Europe come May 3rd.
Yes, but MS are still outselling the GC on software and hardware in America, and even Ninty concede that MS will have a bigger worldwide share in the console scene in 5 years time.
Ninty, Sony, MS and independant analysts have all said that, in 5 years time the console shares will be as follows:
Sony 45%
MS 35%
Ninty 20%
Sonic
You crack Japan, the rest of the world follows. You
> don't...then you fail.
This is pure nonsense. Firstly, Europe is actually the biggest region in terms of profits, with America second, and Japan last.
The reason that it appears that consoles need to win in Japan to do well elsewhere is that almost every memorable console release has been a Japanese one that has targetted Japan as it's main market.
MS has not done this at all. They have targetted America as the key market, and, as you'll know if you saw the latest sales figures, the console has cracked it extremely well! All their sales projections were based on a small Japanese market- granted the market for the console is far lower than MS predicted, but Japanese sales predictions didn't play a big part in MS's sales plan!
Microsoft could still do it but they've left it too
> long, and how many of Ms's shareholders are going to want to continue long term
> losses if Microsoft cannot turn the tide eh ?
Errr... why should MS share holders care? The Xbox is a TINY proportion of their business... I cannot believe for a minute that poeple will be unhappy because the biggest company in the world is making a loss in one of their items! Share value in the company hasn't been dented!
Nintendo
> have launched the Gamecube with a far better success and already hae a user base
> of over a million in Japan, more in America and it should have a great launch in
> Europe come May 3rd.
Yes, but MS are still outselling the GC on software and hardware in America, and even Ninty concede that MS will have a bigger worldwide share in the console scene in 5 years time.
Ninty, Sony, MS and independant analysts have all said that, in 5 years time the console shares will be as follows:
Sony 45%
MS 35%
Ninty 20%
Sonic
I think that after the X-box (which I plan to get in the future, after a price reduction or two) Microsoft could become a dominant household name in the console wars of the future.
They've already solved the Memory Cards problems, and have a cold produce more very impressive consoles due to their work with PC's. So who's to say they'll be a failure after the X-box!
They've already solved the Memory Cards problems, and have a cold produce more very impressive consoles due to their work with PC's. So who's to say they'll be a failure after the X-box!
Read my topic "Failure Is Not An Option"....strange how he's yet to reply after I pointed out all the times he'd misquoted me or changed what I said for his own use.......
Hmmmm... isn't it interesting how Sonic never puts his source down.
Where did you get the data from?
Maybe you're making it up to try and justify your reasons for buying an X-Box?
Who knows...
I'm just saying....
Where did you get the data from?
Maybe you're making it up to try and justify your reasons for buying an X-Box?
Who knows...
I'm just saying....
Why has every console thats ever failed, failed ? It didn't break into the Japanese market. Japan is smaller than America and Europe yet it is the number one place in the world for video game related sales. Japan is where the money is plain and simple.
You crack Japan, the rest of the world follows. You don't...then you fail.
Microsoft could still do it but they've left it too long, and how many of Ms's shareholders are going to want to continue long term losses if Microsoft cannot turn the tide eh ? They need games the Japanese actually want, like Final Fantasy, not what the American's think the Japanese want because the cultural differences are too great. Yes, Microsoft did an admirable job of getting some Japanese developers on board for the launch, but they didn't really help did they ? 4000 units so far I believe was one figure I've seen. Obviously thats going to be higher by now but anything under 10 000 doesnt make it worth retailers devoting much effort to the console. Nintendo have launched the Gamecube with a far better success and already hae a user base of over a million in Japan, more in America and it should have a great launch in Europe come May 3rd.
You crack Japan, the rest of the world follows. You don't...then you fail.
Microsoft could still do it but they've left it too long, and how many of Ms's shareholders are going to want to continue long term losses if Microsoft cannot turn the tide eh ? They need games the Japanese actually want, like Final Fantasy, not what the American's think the Japanese want because the cultural differences are too great. Yes, Microsoft did an admirable job of getting some Japanese developers on board for the launch, but they didn't really help did they ? 4000 units so far I believe was one figure I've seen. Obviously thats going to be higher by now but anything under 10 000 doesnt make it worth retailers devoting much effort to the console. Nintendo have launched the Gamecube with a far better success and already hae a user base of over a million in Japan, more in America and it should have a great launch in Europe come May 3rd.
Despite what you may have heard from Belldandy and co, the Xbox is actually a big success! In fact, it may well be surpassing even MS's expectations!
Now, it was ALWAYS the case that the Xbox was to do very badly in Japan. It's games are marketted at a Western audience, and the Japanese just aren't receptive of foreign products. So it's failed there.
However, in America- the place where MS is aiming the console at, sales are really good! Not only has the console exceeded sales predictions by everyone (including MS), but the console continues to sell more hardware and software units than the less expensive GC. Of course, the PS2 sales will always be in front- Sony has the brand share and library of games already there.
At home, in Europe (Ok, so we're Brits, not Europeans!), the console is fairing fairly well. It has been critised that Xbox games aren't in the charts any more. Should the be? After all, there are litterally MILLIONS of PS2s out, and Sony will always have more game sales while the Xbox is at this early stage.
However, looking at the figures, for a post-christmas launch the console is bettering anything that's come before it. It's probably going to have a console share in europe equal to that of Ninty's- and Ninty are no small fry.
Overall, the Xbox looks to be bettering the 6 million consoles sold by July. It's failed in Japan, but has stolen America, and got an average share of Europe. All MS wanted with the console was to get SOME share of the market for the future- and they've got that. Indeed, they'll probably have a bigger share of the market that Ninty in 5 years time! When you consider that the Dreamcast, made by well-established Sega, failed then it's amazing the MS have cracked the market at all.
Sonic
Now, it was ALWAYS the case that the Xbox was to do very badly in Japan. It's games are marketted at a Western audience, and the Japanese just aren't receptive of foreign products. So it's failed there.
However, in America- the place where MS is aiming the console at, sales are really good! Not only has the console exceeded sales predictions by everyone (including MS), but the console continues to sell more hardware and software units than the less expensive GC. Of course, the PS2 sales will always be in front- Sony has the brand share and library of games already there.
At home, in Europe (Ok, so we're Brits, not Europeans!), the console is fairing fairly well. It has been critised that Xbox games aren't in the charts any more. Should the be? After all, there are litterally MILLIONS of PS2s out, and Sony will always have more game sales while the Xbox is at this early stage.
However, looking at the figures, for a post-christmas launch the console is bettering anything that's come before it. It's probably going to have a console share in europe equal to that of Ninty's- and Ninty are no small fry.
Overall, the Xbox looks to be bettering the 6 million consoles sold by July. It's failed in Japan, but has stolen America, and got an average share of Europe. All MS wanted with the console was to get SOME share of the market for the future- and they've got that. Indeed, they'll probably have a bigger share of the market that Ninty in 5 years time! When you consider that the Dreamcast, made by well-established Sega, failed then it's amazing the MS have cracked the market at all.
Sonic
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