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Tue 15/10/02 at 10:46
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I have been using the net since 1997. I have used various ISP’s and 2 types of connection. Access has never been quick, and even now with ISDN it’s still not very fast. But the real issue is reliability. Using modems and ISDN access, it has been unreliable, with dropped connections while in use, and terrible dial up connections over modems which just come up with error messages and allow no further access. When this happens, I switch of the pc and go back and try again early the next morning, and then it works - but if I hang up and try to go back on it at midday - nothing. With ISDN, I tried 10 times this morning to send a simple email - which was need straight away. Eventually, after about 30mins it did go - what a hassle. Lets not hook our game consoles to the internet.
Tue 15/10/02 at 13:52
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"+34 Intellect"
Posts: 21,334
Dave RJR wrote:
> cookie monster wrote:
> You should check and see if anyone has registered interest for your
> exchange to be enabled.
>
> You can check at www.bt.com/broadband
>
> Yep, done that. It was a while back. I think we got 70, and we need
> some thing like 7000.

Oh dear. Thats a bummer. I think my trigger is about 30, as 15 peoples registered interest has filled half of the thermometer.
Tue 15/10/02 at 13:44
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Posts: 1,106
cookie monster wrote:
> You should check and see if anyone has registered interest for your
> exchange to be enabled.
>
> You can check at www.bt.com/broadband

Yep, done that. It was a while back. I think we got 70, and we need some thing like 7000.
Tue 15/10/02 at 13:40
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"+34 Intellect"
Posts: 21,334
You should check and see if anyone has registered interest for your exchange to be enabled.

You can check at www.bt.com/broadband
Tue 15/10/02 at 13:08
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Posts: 1,106
Semajal wrote:
> 70% of the country can get ADSL

Don't believe everything your read - 70% is what they want you to think. On the BT map, there are great big area's without ADSL - entire regions, and just patches of ADSL coverage.
Tue 15/10/02 at 13:08
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Posts: 463
Semajal wrote:
> 70% of the country can get ADSL

As long as they live where you do though because I can't get it. I was lead to believe it was more like 30%, the way BT are promoting it would suggest everyone can get it.
Tue 15/10/02 at 13:04
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"Jags is teh l33t"
Posts: 4,074
70% of the country can get ADSL
Tue 15/10/02 at 12:30
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cjh wrote:
> Well, first of all you need to know that ISDN is no longer an option
> for people, its not worth it at all.
>
> Its all about Broadband now, what is 10 times faster than a regular
> dial-up and I believe 8 or times faster than ISDN (depending on how
> many channel connections you make). And the fact that it doesn't need
> any alterations on your phone line is a big plus (well, at the
> exchange it does, but thats done by BT with no need for an engineer to
> come around and play with your phone line).
>
> Not sure where abouts you live, but it might be worth looking into
> ADSL, Freeola offer it, http://www.freeola.com/adsl as well as many
> other providers.
>
> I don't believe online gaming for consoles will take of greatly for
> another year or so. Not due to lack of support, but due to BT and the
> currect structure of their network. I don't think it is capable of
> handling 10's of thousands of people playing games against each other
> at once.
>
> So, really its, more like 'ISDN - just say no' and 'Broadband - just
> say yes'.
>
> As soon as BT are able to update their full network to maximum
> copacity, then the online gaming world will have its backbone
> sorted.
>
> All thats left now is the pricing, which I still believe is way to
> high for what ADSL actually is, after all, its only a faster
> connection.

If we could get broadband (ADSL) at work, we would have had that installed - not ISDN (this upgrade is less than a year old for us). At home, I still have to use a normal 56k dialup since there is no broadband option. Anyway, I cant afford £20-£30 every month for subscription. The entire area is not covered by a digital cable tv network - so no broadband through that route. The area is not even on any of BT's ADSL upgrade lists. Fact is, if you look at the broadband availability map - there's few places that can get it.
Tue 15/10/02 at 11:24
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"It goes so quickly"
Posts: 4,083
Well, first of all you need to know that ISDN is no longer an option for people, its not worth it at all.

Its all about Broadband now, what is 10 times faster than a regular dial-up and I believe 8 or times faster than ISDN (depending on how many channel connections you make). And the fact that it doesn't need any alterations on your phone line is a big plus (well, at the exchange it does, but thats done by BT with no need for an engineer to come around and play with your phone line).

Not sure where abouts you live, but it might be worth looking into ADSL, Freeola offer it, http://www.freeola.com/adsl as well as many other providers.

I don't believe online gaming for consoles will take of greatly for another year or so. Not due to lack of support, but due to BT and the currect structure of their network. I don't think it is capable of handling 10's of thousands of people playing games against each other at once.

So, really its, more like 'ISDN - just say no' and 'Broadband - just say yes'.

As soon as BT are able to update their full network to maximum copacity, then the online gaming world will have its backbone sorted.

All thats left now is the pricing, which I still believe is way to high for what ADSL actually is, after all, its only a faster connection.
Tue 15/10/02 at 10:46
Regular
Posts: 1,106
I have been using the net since 1997. I have used various ISP’s and 2 types of connection. Access has never been quick, and even now with ISDN it’s still not very fast. But the real issue is reliability. Using modems and ISDN access, it has been unreliable, with dropped connections while in use, and terrible dial up connections over modems which just come up with error messages and allow no further access. When this happens, I switch of the pc and go back and try again early the next morning, and then it works - but if I hang up and try to go back on it at midday - nothing. With ISDN, I tried 10 times this morning to send a simple email - which was need straight away. Eventually, after about 30mins it did go - what a hassle. Lets not hook our game consoles to the internet.

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