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Tue 15/10/02 at 10:46
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I have been using the net since 1997. I have used various ISP’s and 2 types of connection. Access has never been quick, and even now with ISDN it’s still not very fast. But the real issue is reliability. Using modems and ISDN access, it has been unreliable, with dropped connections while in use, and terrible dial up connections over modems which just come up with error messages and allow no further access. When this happens, I switch of the pc and go back and try again early the next morning, and then it works - but if I hang up and try to go back on it at midday - nothing. With ISDN, I tried 10 times this morning to send a simple email - which was need straight away. Eventually, after about 30mins it did go - what a hassle. Lets not hook our game consoles to the internet.
Tue 15/10/02 at 14:56
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More than one PC using a single ADSL line?

I think you would need to set up a small ethernet network (hope all your PC's have an ethernet cards!). Plug in a ethernet HUB. Run ethernet cables from the sockets on the HUB to each of the PC's. The HUB would then be linked - some how - (anyone fill this bit in for us) - to the ADSL modem device which is connected to the actual wall socket.
Tue 15/10/02 at 14:54
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I just checked the BT website, and one more person has registered interest since yesterday. Perhaps my shabby little village will be broadband enabled sometime within the next 6 months.

Heres hoping.
Tue 15/10/02 at 14:50
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Whitestripes wrote:
> Oh I see, well according to their site the area I'm in is right on the
> border for recieving ASDL, and if we were to ask for it they would
> have to perform a quick check just to make sure it will come through.

ADSL signals offer great quality, but don't travel as far as analogue signals. Therefore, if you live in a ADSL zone, but you are some way from the nearest ADSL exchange (about 4.5miles I think), then reception might be an issue. BT are supposed to be bringing out a revision to the signal called RADSL. This should add an extra couple of valuable miles to the signal reach, with only a slight performance reduction.

Plus, some people say that even though they are definitely inside an ADSL zone, they still had problems picking up the signal. This can apparently be the fault of the actual phone line going into your house. They don't last forever, and over the years do drop in quality. This can cause problems for ADSL signals. The only solution is to have a new length of phone cable installed (extra cost?). A line test is essential!
Tue 15/10/02 at 14:47
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No, its not automaticly connected when you turn on your PC, unless you set it up to do so.

You know when you dial-up on a 56k modem connection?? You still get that as they need to varify your username and password (open the connection). Once that is done the connection is on until you dissconect (close it). You can use two PC's on the same connection, but I'm not entirly sure how that works, I think you just need to login to varify one PC, then the other will work right away.
Tue 15/10/02 at 14:43
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Dave RJR wrote:
> Your phone wall socket will also be turned into a double socket, one
> just for ADSL, the other for "normal" analogue phones, modems, fax, etc.
> This allows for ADSL and existing "normal" equipment to use the same
> line at the same time.

This is usually done using a microfilter unit, rather than having the wall socket changed.
Tue 15/10/02 at 14:42
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Thanks Dave, I knew I'd need a different connector but that was about it.

Just one more question, if it's a permanent connection, like Freeola, what happens if you have more than one computer plugged into a phone line? Because as soon as you turn ither of them on they will be connected, and if they are both turned on at the same time what will happen?
Tue 15/10/02 at 14:37
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Whitestripes wrote:
> I thought ADSL was down a phone line? In which case, anyone with a
> phone line can get it?

It IS a normal "looking" phone line - but ADSL is a new signal on the line. The signal must be transmitted by your local telephone exchange (most exchanges have not had this new hardware installed yet - so no signal). You also need a receiver unit (some times called a broadband/adsl modem) at your end to pick the new signal up. Your phone wall socket will also be turned into a double socket, one just for ADSL, the other for "normal" analogue phones, modems, fax, etc. This allows for ADSL and existing "normal" equipment to use the same line at the same time.
Tue 15/10/02 at 14:36
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Oh I see, well according to their site the area I'm in is right on the border for recieving ASDL, and if we were to ask for it they would have to perform a quick check just to make sure it will come through.
Tue 15/10/02 at 14:03
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Yes, ADSL is down a phone line.

However it is a new technology, so BT Exchanges don't support it as standard. They need to be fitted with new equipment. Expensive new Equipment.

My local exchange has had this upgrade, but not all of them have. BT have said that they will only upgrade an exchange if there is enough demand for the ADSL service to justify them doingit.

70% is more likely how many people could get it, if all the exhcnages were upgraded. There is a lot lower % to who can 'actually' get ADSL at this time via their exchange.

Dave RJR, thats unlucky, unfortunatly the only other thing yo can do is have your work place go for a satallite connection, but not sure what they cost.
Tue 15/10/02 at 13:55
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I thought ADSL was down a phone line? In which case, anyone with a phone line can get it?

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