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Mon 21/10/02 at 22:09
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Its that time of the year again, yes its right its Christmas. Santa bringing pressies to everyone etc etc.

But to the games console market this Christmas will break or make the futures of the Nintendo Gamecube and the Microsoft Xbox!

According to the group Strtegic Analytics (or whatever they are called again) say that the PS2 has clearly won the consoles war. And yes that is TRUE! Who can match Sony's 40million+ consoles sold, not even xbox or the cube can do that as quick as Sony did. Now lets look at why Sony have been so sucessful. After the success of the PS1, many users were rearing to go and buy the PS2.

The PS2 embarrased the Dreamcast, but why did this happen, well Sony threw in a DVD player, which was a good thing. But the Dreamcast had a lot of potential in it, but just did not work out. Another thing JAPAN has had a BIGGGGG influence on the PS2. The home of Sony, many Japanese people have bought the PS2, if this continues, every single household will have the PS2. Which just isn't right. Having 71% of the market share, which company can withhold Sony. Well thats down to either Microsoft or Nintendo.

The battle is on for 2nd PLACE. Yes thats right. Its Cube vs Box. Both systems have potential. My fave is the Cube, others will like the PS2 or the Xbox. But Nintendo have got the lead over Microsoft, as the cube has sold over 10 millions whereas the Xbox has only sold over 8 million boxes.

So this will be the biggest battle for 2nd place, for 2nd place in the market share. its nothing compared to 2nd place in the Formula 1 Driving campionship. Believe both consoles have great games, both will be realising online capabilities. But this Christmas will decide who's the better out of the cube and the box. Right now Nintendo have second place, but will this continue (I think it will). (Nintendo gonna have a massive cube party, this will help them sell a few more cubes, Xbox really aint got a proper marketing strategy yet, the PS2 will be doing quite a few things as well this xmas to make their console sell).

What do you all think? Which will come out to be on 2nd place? Can Sony ever stop selling the PS2? Well thats for us consumers to decide.
Wed 23/10/02 at 11:18
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"bWo > You"
Posts: 725
As much as I would like to say Nintendo will come second, I can't see it happening, because Gates will just flood the market, till we drown in X-box stuff. I think Gates still believes he can win the war, but it's up to us trusted hardcore gamers to stop Microsoft and propel Nintendo to the second spot!
Wed 23/10/02 at 10:31
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"Eric The Half A Bee"
Posts: 5,347
WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> Armatige Shanks wrote:
> Although I understand the game sucks?
>
> No idea! I knew they were making one, but I've seen nothing of it.

I read a review for it a week or so back at The Adrenaline Vault...

just a sec...

www.avault.com/reviews/review_temp.asp?game=farsc

Missed opportunity seems to be what the reviewer seems to be trying to put across :)
Wed 23/10/02 at 10:24
"Mimmargh!"
Posts: 2,929
Savatt78 wrote:
> X-Box exclusives...
>
> Halo

Coming to PC, but not for a good year, which means they release it around the time of monsters like Doom 3...hmmm...

> Deus Ex 2

PC.

> Star Wars: Knights Of The Old Republic

I think it was coming to PC, but they may have changed it.
Tue 22/10/02 at 23:36
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Posts: 11,875
Being exclusive doesn't make them good.

I wouldn't give 3/4 of those games a second glance, and the ones I did I wouldn't buy anyway.
Tue 22/10/02 at 23:08
"High polygon count"
Posts: 15,624
Savatt78 wrote:
> X-Box exclusives...

Do you know - and I'm honestly not just saying this for the sake of causing an argument - that there isn't one title in there that I would buy an Xbox to play?

Well - except Halo - which I bought the Xbox to play. And we all know how that ended up! :-)

As I have an Xbox, I may well be buying some of them - but not the other way around.

Oh - and I don't think Lamborghini is exclusive. As far as I know, it's also on PS2 (been doing the rounds in the mags) - not sure about Gamecube though.
Tue 22/10/02 at 22:58
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"ATAT Supremo"
Posts: 6,238
da_1_n_only wrote:
> However the Xbox really needs to try a bit harder, they've got a few
> good games as well, Halo1/2, Project Gotham,
>
> Theres no point arguing about Multi-Format games like Fifa 2003, Sega
> Soccer Slam, they come out on all consoles. Lets argue about
> Exclusives!! The cube have got a few of them out, which the others
> lack!

X-Box exclusives...

Halo
Halo 2
Project Gothem Racing
Project Gothem Racing 2
Dead Or Alive 3
Dead Or Alive 4
Dead Or Alive Extreme Beach Volleyball
Steel Battalion
Mech Assault
Buffy The vampire Slayer
Jet Set Radio Future
Panzer Dragoon Orta
Toejam & Earl 3
Psychonauts
Quantum Redshift
Gun Valkyrie
Unreal Championship
Deus Ex 2
Blinx The Timesweeper
Whacked!
Kameo: Elements Of Power
Perfect Dark 2
Midtown Madness 3
True Fantasy Live Online
Star Wars: Knights Of The Old Republic
Fable (Project Ego)
Sudeki
Brute Force
Amped
Amped 2
Ninja Gaiden
Tao Feng
House Of The Dead 3
Daytona USA 3
Yager
WWE Raw Is War
WWE Raw Is War 2
Battle Engine Aquila
Kung Fu Chaos
Racing Evoluzione
Dino Crisis 3
Lamborghini
Haven: Call To The King
BC
Transworld Snowboarding
Rallisport Challenge
Rallisport Challenge 2
Crazy Taxi 3
Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee
Toxic Grind

Those spring to mind. I know theres more. Hmmmmmmmmmmm, doesn't look a very short list to me.
Tue 22/10/02 at 22:08
"High polygon count"
Posts: 15,624
Armatige Shanks wrote:
> Although I understand the game sucks?

No idea! I knew they were making one, but I've seen nothing of it.
Tue 22/10/02 at 21:30
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"Look Ma, No Tagline"
Posts: 386
Parr wrote:
> ok Gamecube has these titles coming up and available (been out less
> than 2 months) that are exclusive that are any good:
>
> Mario Sunshine
> The Legend of Zelda
> Eternal Darkness
> Starfox Adventures
> Wario Land
> Wireless Controller (so not a game but the best ever controller)
> Mario party 4
> Resident Evil

A good bunch of games! Lets not forget Phantasy Star Online (Online gaming is coming very soon indeed for the cube!)The future karting games, Whole of the Resi Series still to come, FREELOADER, etc etc

> PS2 Has:
>
> Burnout 2
> GTA Vice City

True, as well as one of the best footie game, er MGS2 for the time being, should come out soon on Xbox/Cube, GTA3, er and a few others... Wheres the Xbox list dissapeared to?

> I think that just these games have proved the point that... The
> Gamecube is the best console available at this moment in time!

True for the time being! Lots of good games out which will entertain for hours.
Tue 22/10/02 at 21:23
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"Look Ma, No Tagline"
Posts: 386
Mendax Bartender wrote:
>
> I'll admit that PS2 has a couple of decent games out for it, but the
> majority are just chaff.

Thats true, the PS2 only has a few good titles it can own upto. Like GTA3, Burnout 2, and a few more to name. But the Cube on the other hand have got a great number of titles coming out. I.E. Starfox, Metroid Prime, Die Hard Vendetta, etc etc, plus to the ever popular Mario Sunshine, and the re-make of Resi Evil series, the cube is looking great.

However the Xbox really needs to try a bit harder, they've got a few good games as well, Halo1/2, Project Gotham,

Theres no point arguing about Multi-Format games like Fifa 2003, Sega Soccer Slam, they come out on all consoles. Lets argue about Exclusives!! The cube have got a few of them out, which the others lack!
Tue 22/10/02 at 19:57
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
ssxpro wrote:
> Hmmm, if you don`t mean it seriously though, what do you mean?
> Insulting somebody and then afterwards saying "I`m only
> joking" isn`t exactly a masterful piece of humour.

I was only covering my backside, since I didn't want a horde of PS2 owners who are actually intelligent having a go at me, but in essence, I meant every word.


> Also, are you really the Insane Bartender from the old days? You seem
> quite different in that you are extremely hostile to PS2 owning
> people.

I'm only hostile to the idiots that think the PS2 is mana from heaven, which it isn't. It's just a games console, with games being produced en mass and with little thought to take advantage of the huge and largely stupid hordes of PS2 fanboy morons.

I'll admit that PS2 has a couple of decent games out for it, but the majority are just chaff.

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