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Well it's started. The run up to Christmas will be full of games as per usual. And the PS2 has already started the ball rolling with Burnout2, TimeSplitters2, and Need4speed in a week or so. This is just the beginning. I thought the PS2 was going to struggle this year - well as the rest of us knew that was just GC and XBOX owners trying to justify their own consoles.
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El blokey wrote:
> EverQuest? Poor? It's arguably the best MMORPG ever, certainly the
> first big hit. And that and The Sims are new to console gamers.
Arguably the best MMOLRPG? ... only in the same sense that N'Sync or Blue are arguably the best bands in the world...
The first big hit 'graphics' based MMOLRPG was Ultima Online, by a few years too I think?
> By mutiplayer I mean people sitting next to you holding pads, not
> online gaming. LANs can do this, I admit, but so large is the scale
> it's not hard to lose the fact you're playing with other people where
> comparitively you can play with people you know well or strangers, and
> instantly be joking with them, face to face.
I was playing Super Mario Kart and Bomberman online via ZSNES against my brother, and later on ZBattle.net against some guy I didnt know... it was as much fun as it always used to be?
> EverQuest? Poor? It's arguably the best MMORPG ever, certainly the
> first big hit. And that and The Sims are new to console gamers.
Arguably the best MMOLRPG? ... only in the same sense that N'Sync or Blue are arguably the best bands in the world...
The first big hit 'graphics' based MMOLRPG was Ultima Online, by a few years too I think?
> By mutiplayer I mean people sitting next to you holding pads, not
> online gaming. LANs can do this, I admit, but so large is the scale
> it's not hard to lose the fact you're playing with other people where
> comparitively you can play with people you know well or strangers, and
> instantly be joking with them, face to face.
I was playing Super Mario Kart and Bomberman online via ZSNES against my brother, and later on ZBattle.net against some guy I didnt know... it was as much fun as it always used to be?
eh?
Nuff said?
You played Devil May Cry 2 have you?
Nuff said?
You played Devil May Cry 2 have you?
Devil May Cry 2
'nuff said really.
'nuff said really.
Yeah, I just wanted to agree with Mendax Bartender and Goatboy on this.
The PC truly is pretty much beyond competition in terms of variety and depth when it comes to games. I own a PS2 & GC, both of which I think are very good in their own way, but the PC has much depth that it’s always going to stand head and shoulders above consoles.
The console world goes ap-shlt over something like TimeSplitter 2, which is a very good FPS, but up against Soldier of Fortune 2, MoH: Allied Assault, No one live forever 2, Unreal 2003, it simple cannot compete. Almost every type of game is available on the PC and usually looks better than any console could hope for – providing you have good hardware.
But as ever, this kind of choice, quality and eye candy comes at a price. PC gaming is darn expensive, and if you want the latest games to look good, you gotta have good hardware, and that costs money.
Simple as that. If you’ve got the cash, you won’t go far wrong. If you haven’t, then stick to consoles, where you can get a machine (PS2, GC or Xbox) and like six games for about £400 – this is the price of the new top of the range ATI 9700 Pro Graphics card.
PC gaming is high end, and it’s a fact that not everyone can afford it. However, not being able to afford it doesn’t mean you should slate it. It just gives you something to look forward to when you can.
Having said all this, I still must admit to playing a shlt load of Winning Eleven 6 on the PS2. But what do I care, I got a PC, Cube, PS2 and DC :-p
The PC truly is pretty much beyond competition in terms of variety and depth when it comes to games. I own a PS2 & GC, both of which I think are very good in their own way, but the PC has much depth that it’s always going to stand head and shoulders above consoles.
The console world goes ap-shlt over something like TimeSplitter 2, which is a very good FPS, but up against Soldier of Fortune 2, MoH: Allied Assault, No one live forever 2, Unreal 2003, it simple cannot compete. Almost every type of game is available on the PC and usually looks better than any console could hope for – providing you have good hardware.
But as ever, this kind of choice, quality and eye candy comes at a price. PC gaming is darn expensive, and if you want the latest games to look good, you gotta have good hardware, and that costs money.
Simple as that. If you’ve got the cash, you won’t go far wrong. If you haven’t, then stick to consoles, where you can get a machine (PS2, GC or Xbox) and like six games for about £400 – this is the price of the new top of the range ATI 9700 Pro Graphics card.
PC gaming is high end, and it’s a fact that not everyone can afford it. However, not being able to afford it doesn’t mean you should slate it. It just gives you something to look forward to when you can.
Having said all this, I still must admit to playing a shlt load of Winning Eleven 6 on the PS2. But what do I care, I got a PC, Cube, PS2 and DC :-p
All the consoles are being served amazingly with games, with titles such as Mario Sunshine, GTA Vice City, Splinter Cell, Timesplitters 2, Eternal Darkness, Blinx, Starfox Adventures, Kingdom Hearts amongst tons of other all being on the shelf before Xmas, this has to be the best Xmas for gaming for years.
You should al be happy, so for gods skaes stop arguing.
Oh and Need For Speed is supposed to be a load of balls, i'd avoid it if I was you.
You should al be happy, so for gods skaes stop arguing.
Oh and Need For Speed is supposed to be a load of balls, i'd avoid it if I was you.
Mendax Bartender wrote:
> Timesplitters 2 may be the best FPS on the PS2, but it really is pale
> in comparison to the format on which such games thrive - the PC. Never
> forget that FPS games work best on the PC, this is just fact. And
> don't get me started on Grand Theft Auto - the worst series of games
> I've ever come across. Try reading my GAD winning post on shallow
> minds.
Yes, PC FPSs work best...but then, this topic was comparing the PS2 to the other consoles. It's like comparing PC racing games to PS2 ones.
And really, I think GTA3 is a harmless outlet of rage in its lowest form and, in its best, a great game. No less bloodthirsty in the main game than stuff like Soldier of Fortune, it's a bloomin' good title. Sure it has gore, and the option for senseless violence but it doesn't hurt anyone.
> I need not repeat myself on GTA3, which is available on PC, Pro Evo
> doesn't appeal, and everquest was a bit poor, and the Sims is just
> OLD.
EverQuest? Poor? It's arguably the best MMORPG ever, certainly the first big hit. And that and The Sims are new to console gamers.
> Consoles are more multiplayer based? I think you need to go away and
> contemplate your relationship with the universe, because last time I
> looked, you could have MILLIONS of people playing MMORPGs, whereas the
> best consoles can offer is 4 or 8 player action. There's just no
> comparison really.
By mutiplayer I mean people sitting next to you holding pads, not online gaming. LANs can do this, I admit, but so large is the scale it's not hard to lose the fact you're playing with other people where comparitively you can play with people you know well or strangers, and instantly be joking with them, face to face.
> And any list of recommeded titles including GTA games, wrestling games
> and anything to do with Tomb Raider has to be immediately dismissed as
> the rantings of a bedroom hermit lunatic. Plus the Final Fantasy
> series has been crap since #7.
Wrestling games are no less silly than fighting games, GTA is great and Tomb Raider...well, some people like lunatic. And don't tell me you're another person who longs for the time of Kefka and 2D FFs...*snoring*
> Timesplitters 2 may be the best FPS on the PS2, but it really is pale
> in comparison to the format on which such games thrive - the PC. Never
> forget that FPS games work best on the PC, this is just fact. And
> don't get me started on Grand Theft Auto - the worst series of games
> I've ever come across. Try reading my GAD winning post on shallow
> minds.
Yes, PC FPSs work best...but then, this topic was comparing the PS2 to the other consoles. It's like comparing PC racing games to PS2 ones.
And really, I think GTA3 is a harmless outlet of rage in its lowest form and, in its best, a great game. No less bloodthirsty in the main game than stuff like Soldier of Fortune, it's a bloomin' good title. Sure it has gore, and the option for senseless violence but it doesn't hurt anyone.
> I need not repeat myself on GTA3, which is available on PC, Pro Evo
> doesn't appeal, and everquest was a bit poor, and the Sims is just
> OLD.
EverQuest? Poor? It's arguably the best MMORPG ever, certainly the first big hit. And that and The Sims are new to console gamers.
> Consoles are more multiplayer based? I think you need to go away and
> contemplate your relationship with the universe, because last time I
> looked, you could have MILLIONS of people playing MMORPGs, whereas the
> best consoles can offer is 4 or 8 player action. There's just no
> comparison really.
By mutiplayer I mean people sitting next to you holding pads, not online gaming. LANs can do this, I admit, but so large is the scale it's not hard to lose the fact you're playing with other people where comparitively you can play with people you know well or strangers, and instantly be joking with them, face to face.
> And any list of recommeded titles including GTA games, wrestling games
> and anything to do with Tomb Raider has to be immediately dismissed as
> the rantings of a bedroom hermit lunatic. Plus the Final Fantasy
> series has been crap since #7.
Wrestling games are no less silly than fighting games, GTA is great and Tomb Raider...well, some people like lunatic. And don't tell me you're another person who longs for the time of Kefka and 2D FFs...*snoring*
In a way, multi-format is good - everyone gets to play the game, regardless of which console they have. But, and this is it, at the moment all the 3 console manufacturers need to provide "reasons"for people to own their console. So the best exclusive a console has, the best chance of survival it has against the other players. Look at GC and the Resi series. If you want those games, u gota buy a Cube. Same goes for GTA3 and PS2.
Using a PC just for games is expensive. If you are starting from scratch, you need the PC (£500-£1000), for a start. Online games. that will be ADSL then. Tough I can't get it, and in any case I wouldn't spend £20-£30 a month on broadband subscription.
BTW, I have a phone line ext connected to my digibox.
Using a PC just for games is expensive. If you are starting from scratch, you need the PC (£500-£1000), for a start. Online games. that will be ADSL then. Tough I can't get it, and in any case I wouldn't spend £20-£30 a month on broadband subscription.
BTW, I have a phone line ext connected to my digibox.
Goatboy wrote:
> Besides, I've owned all the consoles at one point or other yet I still
> come back, time and time again,to my PC.
> It's for grownups.
I've got a PC but all I ever play on is my Consoles.
I never wanted to grow up anyway
> Besides, I've owned all the consoles at one point or other yet I still
> come back, time and time again,to my PC.
> It's for grownups.
I've got a PC but all I ever play on is my Consoles.
I never wanted to grow up anyway
I'm with The Porntrooper on this one.
PC gaming is beyond consoles, no comparison at all. It has more depth, a wider variety of games and online capability for years.
The Sims? PC has had that for what...4-5 years now? FPS are simply better on PCs. Enjoy your Timesplitters 2, I'm sure it is a good game. We'll make do with No One Lives Forever 2, Half-Life + Variants, Soldier of Fortune 2 etc etc etc.
Or, to look at it another way. You have only a console.
You want to play a real-time strategy game. Which one?
You want to play a MMORPG. Which one?
You want to play a FPS. Which one?
Besides, I've owned all the consoles at one point or other yet I still come back, time and time again,to my PC.
It's for grownups.
PC gaming is beyond consoles, no comparison at all. It has more depth, a wider variety of games and online capability for years.
The Sims? PC has had that for what...4-5 years now? FPS are simply better on PCs. Enjoy your Timesplitters 2, I'm sure it is a good game. We'll make do with No One Lives Forever 2, Half-Life + Variants, Soldier of Fortune 2 etc etc etc.
Or, to look at it another way. You have only a console.
You want to play a real-time strategy game. Which one?
You want to play a MMORPG. Which one?
You want to play a FPS. Which one?
Besides, I've owned all the consoles at one point or other yet I still come back, time and time again,to my PC.
It's for grownups.
El blokey wrote:
> I take it you haven't played NFS:HP2. The series has never been that
> good, but this installment is like GTA3 to it's own series of GTA1s.
> And TimeSplitters 2 is the best FPS on the PS2, IMO. Not as good as
> Halo, but close enough for me. I've never been a fan of Burnout
> though.
Timesplitters 2 may be the best FPS on the PS2, but it really is pale in comparison to the format on which such games thrive - the PC. Never forget that FPS games work best on the PC, this is just fact. And don't get me started on Grand Theft Auto - the worst series of games I've ever come across. Try reading my GAD winning post on shallow minds.
> GTA3? Pro Evolution? And with a few ports FROM the PC like EverQuest
> and The Sims, there's enough depth.
I need not repeat myself on GTA3, which is available on PC, Pro Evo doesn't appeal, and everquest was a bit poor, and the Sims is just OLD.
> The point is, PC gaming is expensive to run properly. It's more online
> orientated. Console gaming is more multiplayer based, but it also has
> some of the best one player games like GTA and Mario. I'll give you
> the list so Dave doesn't have to: Vice City, Pro Evolution 2, Ratchet
> and Clank, Primal, Sly Cooper, Smackdown 4, Tomb Raider Angel of
> Darkness (I think that's PS2 exclusive, anyway). Then there'll be more
> GTAs, more Gran Turismos and more Final Fantasys.
Consoles are more multiplayer based? I think you need to go away and contemplate your relationship with the universe, because last time I looked, you could have MILLIONS of people playing MMORPGs, whereas the best consoles can offer is 4 or 8 player action. There's just no comparison really.
And any list of recommeded titles including GTA games, wrestling games and anything to do with Tomb Raider has to be immediately dismissed as the rantings of a bedroom hermit lunatic. Plus the Final Fantasy series has been crap since #7.
> I take it you haven't played NFS:HP2. The series has never been that
> good, but this installment is like GTA3 to it's own series of GTA1s.
> And TimeSplitters 2 is the best FPS on the PS2, IMO. Not as good as
> Halo, but close enough for me. I've never been a fan of Burnout
> though.
Timesplitters 2 may be the best FPS on the PS2, but it really is pale in comparison to the format on which such games thrive - the PC. Never forget that FPS games work best on the PC, this is just fact. And don't get me started on Grand Theft Auto - the worst series of games I've ever come across. Try reading my GAD winning post on shallow minds.
> GTA3? Pro Evolution? And with a few ports FROM the PC like EverQuest
> and The Sims, there's enough depth.
I need not repeat myself on GTA3, which is available on PC, Pro Evo doesn't appeal, and everquest was a bit poor, and the Sims is just OLD.
> The point is, PC gaming is expensive to run properly. It's more online
> orientated. Console gaming is more multiplayer based, but it also has
> some of the best one player games like GTA and Mario. I'll give you
> the list so Dave doesn't have to: Vice City, Pro Evolution 2, Ratchet
> and Clank, Primal, Sly Cooper, Smackdown 4, Tomb Raider Angel of
> Darkness (I think that's PS2 exclusive, anyway). Then there'll be more
> GTAs, more Gran Turismos and more Final Fantasys.
Consoles are more multiplayer based? I think you need to go away and contemplate your relationship with the universe, because last time I looked, you could have MILLIONS of people playing MMORPGs, whereas the best consoles can offer is 4 or 8 player action. There's just no comparison really.
And any list of recommeded titles including GTA games, wrestling games and anything to do with Tomb Raider has to be immediately dismissed as the rantings of a bedroom hermit lunatic. Plus the Final Fantasy series has been crap since #7.
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