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As a PS2 owner I can't help but chuckle at the problem Gamecube and Xbox owners face.
There systems software more often than not are just cheap ports of PS2 games and a way of making some easily money for developers without the effort. Need for Speed is an obvious example of this while the PS2 version runs at a really fast pace the Gamecube version is hysterically slow not much good having a smart looking racer that move like a lada. The Xbox version granted is better, but still not as good as the PS2 version why is this because the game has obviously been optimised for the PS2 first and then ported over.
People that say PS2 is dead need to get there head out of the sand from what I can see there would be no reason to buy a GC or Xbox on this evidence as you pay more for clone or inferior product. That is why the PS2 continues to sell as many as Xbox and GC put together.
There systems software more often than not are just cheap ports of PS2 games and a way of making some easily money for developers without the effort. Need for Speed is an obvious example of this while the PS2 version runs at a really fast pace the Gamecube version is hysterically slow not much good having a smart looking racer that move like a lada. The Xbox version granted is better, but still not as good as the PS2 version why is this because the game has obviously been optimised for the PS2 first and then ported over.
People that say PS2 is dead need to get there head out of the sand from what I can see there would be no reason to buy a GC or Xbox on this evidence as you pay more for clone or inferior product. That is why the PS2 continues to sell as many as Xbox and GC put together.
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Boss_Pac_Man wrote:
> no, the reason is that mums, and dads, and kids, see it as the 'cool'
> console, and don't often know anything about the other consoles
> existance.
Then the marketing peeps at Ninty and the big M need a kick up the u know where! After all, those are the people responsible for making their consoles "cool".
Anyway, from what I can see, a lot (if not all) of the younger gamers know exactly what to ask for, and its still PS2.
> no, the reason is that mums, and dads, and kids, see it as the 'cool'
> console, and don't often know anything about the other consoles
> existance.
Then the marketing peeps at Ninty and the big M need a kick up the u know where! After all, those are the people responsible for making their consoles "cool".
Anyway, from what I can see, a lot (if not all) of the younger gamers know exactly what to ask for, and its still PS2.
Top score wrote:
> There systems software more often than not are just cheap ports of PS2
> games and a way of making some easily money for developers without the
> effort.
cann you really claim that those games weren't just 'a way of making some easily money for developers without the effort'?
> People that say PS2 is dead need to get there head out of the sand
> from what I can see there would be no reason to buy a GC or Xbox on
> this evidence as you pay more for clone or inferior product.
why the hall would nintendo or microsoft want to clone something as rubbish as that?
>this is why the PS2 continues to sell as many as Xbox and GC put together.
no, the reason is that mums, and dads, and kids, see it as the 'cool' console, and don't often know anything about the other consoles existance.
> There systems software more often than not are just cheap ports of PS2
> games and a way of making some easily money for developers without the
> effort.
cann you really claim that those games weren't just 'a way of making some easily money for developers without the effort'?
> People that say PS2 is dead need to get there head out of the sand
> from what I can see there would be no reason to buy a GC or Xbox on
> this evidence as you pay more for clone or inferior product.
why the hall would nintendo or microsoft want to clone something as rubbish as that?
>this is why the PS2 continues to sell as many as Xbox and GC put together.
no, the reason is that mums, and dads, and kids, see it as the 'cool' console, and don't often know anything about the other consoles existance.
Top score wrote:
> What you have to understand Tiltawhirl is that the games Xbox and GC
> get are secondhand and that all PS2 owners have played them already
> and are awaiting for the next installment which is a brand new game
> not a rehash title example Burnout and Burnout2.
A rehash title?
Ummmmmm what?
What you have to understand is that Ninty's and Xbox owners don't have to rely so heavily on 3rd party titles as PS2 owners. Fair enough you have a few exclusives but nowhere near the numbers on Xbox and Gamecube. Oh and also a lot of 3rd party titles take longer to come out on Cube and Xbox cause Sony buy the exclusive rights to the game for 6 months, this has happened with Burnout 2.
> What you have to understand Tiltawhirl is that the games Xbox and GC
> get are secondhand and that all PS2 owners have played them already
> and are awaiting for the next installment which is a brand new game
> not a rehash title example Burnout and Burnout2.
A rehash title?
Ummmmmm what?
What you have to understand is that Ninty's and Xbox owners don't have to rely so heavily on 3rd party titles as PS2 owners. Fair enough you have a few exclusives but nowhere near the numbers on Xbox and Gamecube. Oh and also a lot of 3rd party titles take longer to come out on Cube and Xbox cause Sony buy the exclusive rights to the game for 6 months, this has happened with Burnout 2.
Yes exactly Cipro, Cube has the most orignal games that only come from Nintendo, Xbox since it hasn't been out as long as Nintendo has doesn't have many Microsoft only games, so they would be wanting to get some from the cube and PS2.
Top Score do you really think GC and X-Box owners care about the quality of converted PS2 games? Both consoles have a wide selection of exclusive titles which far outweigh any second rate conversion from the PS2.
Also Top Score Resident Evil is a port from the PS1 and you're not complaining about it. Is it because you already know it's way superior to the originals that were a bit popular on the PS1 and now they are really popular.
Top score wrote:
> What you have to understand Tiltawhirl is that the games Xbox and GC
> get are secondhand and that all PS2 owners have played them already
> and are awaiting for the next installment which is a brand new game
> not a rehash title example Burnout and Burnout2.
Well we'll see whether Burnout 2 is better on the Cube and Xbox, then you'll be crying.
> What you have to understand Tiltawhirl is that the games Xbox and GC
> get are secondhand and that all PS2 owners have played them already
> and are awaiting for the next installment which is a brand new game
> not a rehash title example Burnout and Burnout2.
Well we'll see whether Burnout 2 is better on the Cube and Xbox, then you'll be crying.
Totoro wrote:
> But for every 1 PS2 port the GC and Xbox get, they get loads of their
> own exclusive titles that aren't ports.
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And these exclusives are - almost without exception - superior to any games the PS2 has.
> But for every 1 PS2 port the GC and Xbox get, they get loads of their
> own exclusive titles that aren't ports.
*
And these exclusives are - almost without exception - superior to any games the PS2 has.
Totoro wrote:
>
> The last time I looked, Mario Sunshine, Luigis Mansion, Star Wars:
> Rouge Leader, Monkey Ball, Wave Race, Smash Bros Melee, Pikmin &
> Resident Evil, Zelda Winds of Takuto, Resident Evil Zero, Star Fox
> Dinosaur Planet, Soul Calibur 2, Mario Party 4, Monkey Ball 2, Eternal
> Darkness, Metroid Prime, are not cheap PS2 ports.
>
> Granted, there are a few ports from the PS2, but not many. Some are
> naff (mainly because they were naff in the first place), but some,
> like Burnout, are better on the Cube.
>
> Plus the Xbox has a number of exclusives like Halo, Project Gotham,
> JSRF, etc.
pay attension, top score
>
> The last time I looked, Mario Sunshine, Luigis Mansion, Star Wars:
> Rouge Leader, Monkey Ball, Wave Race, Smash Bros Melee, Pikmin &
> Resident Evil, Zelda Winds of Takuto, Resident Evil Zero, Star Fox
> Dinosaur Planet, Soul Calibur 2, Mario Party 4, Monkey Ball 2, Eternal
> Darkness, Metroid Prime, are not cheap PS2 ports.
>
> Granted, there are a few ports from the PS2, but not many. Some are
> naff (mainly because they were naff in the first place), but some,
> like Burnout, are better on the Cube.
>
> Plus the Xbox has a number of exclusives like Halo, Project Gotham,
> JSRF, etc.
pay attension, top score
Totoro wrote:
> Plus, if you look at Turok Evolution, you don't need to be a nuclear
> physicist to see the PS2 version is way inferior.
And don't forget that if he says that Turok evolution was the original port from the PS2, KILL HIM!
Turok was originally from Nintendo, and Nintendo only.
> Plus, if you look at Turok Evolution, you don't need to be a nuclear
> physicist to see the PS2 version is way inferior.
And don't forget that if he says that Turok evolution was the original port from the PS2, KILL HIM!
Turok was originally from Nintendo, and Nintendo only.
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