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Why are some people lsating the XBox becuase of the price of it?
£300 is a standard price for a new console.
The PSX and PS2 BOTH launched at £300, as the XBox has done.
The XBox offers more (hardware wise) than both of these other consoles, yet people are still complaining about the price.
How does that work?
If you think it's too much, here's a tip:
DON'T BUY ONE.
It really is that simple.
Or perhaps you can see what a great console it is, and are just annoyed you can't afford one of your own? Just a thought...
£300 is a standard price for a new console.
The PSX and PS2 BOTH launched at £300, as the XBox has done.
The XBox offers more (hardware wise) than both of these other consoles, yet people are still complaining about the price.
How does that work?
If you think it's too much, here's a tip:
DON'T BUY ONE.
It really is that simple.
Or perhaps you can see what a great console it is, and are just annoyed you can't afford one of your own? Just a thought...
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Well the PS2 did release at a price far higher than the competition though didn't it, while the X-Box is releasing at about the same price. So there is a difference, but then maybe what we should have said was that the other consoles were cheap while the PS2 was reasonably priced perhaps? I don't know but one day consoles will be the same price as bottom end PCs (which are surprisingly good) and the question will be why should we buy a console when we can get a PC and buy the best console games when they are released on it? For the moment though the consoles do have something to offer, they just have to try and avoid a marketing strategy that will cost them far more than it will make them or else greed will be their downfall (or possibly lack of greed if they let developers do what they want).
Surely fuss was also kicked at the price of the PS2.
"I'm not getting one, it's too expensive" was the theme of last year, until Sony brought the price down.
I don't remember too much fuss about the PSX price. But then at the time of its release, most avid gamers had been quite happy to hand over a cool £60+ for a copy of "Super Street Fighter 2" on the SNES.
£300 probably looked cheaper then. Strange that.
Anyway, I'm not buying an Xbox because I've got a PS2 that I'm perfectly happy with. I could afford an Xbox if I really wanted one. However, I'm going to hang on for the gaycube to establish its self, then make an informed decision as to what camp to join.
Glory supporting? Well yes.
"I'm not getting one, it's too expensive" was the theme of last year, until Sony brought the price down.
I don't remember too much fuss about the PSX price. But then at the time of its release, most avid gamers had been quite happy to hand over a cool £60+ for a copy of "Super Street Fighter 2" on the SNES.
£300 probably looked cheaper then. Strange that.
Anyway, I'm not buying an Xbox because I've got a PS2 that I'm perfectly happy with. I could afford an Xbox if I really wanted one. However, I'm going to hang on for the gaycube to establish its self, then make an informed decision as to what camp to join.
Glory supporting? Well yes.
That's right, plus they can't actually use all this power they have. When games need to use the full 2200 MHZ and all the mb of Graphics card they'll look better than real life. Real life has a tendency to be dull and dreary anyway, not like the colourful games we see all the time. Like Pokemon.
Meka Dragon wrote:
I imagine, given that the it's similar to develop games for as a PC (Direct X etc)
Ah, now that's where you're wrong.
DirectX is built into Windows to enable games to run on the myriad of different combinations of CPU's, graphics cards, sound cards etc.
The XBox doesn't use Windows as an OS, therefore no DirectX. But DirectX isn't needed as the games developers know EXACTLY what hardware is available to them.
Because of this, they can 'tune' the code to get the best possible results. Which is why XBox games look better than a high end PC, even though the spec is lower.
I imagine, given that the it's similar to develop games for as a PC (Direct X etc)
Ah, now that's where you're wrong.
DirectX is built into Windows to enable games to run on the myriad of different combinations of CPU's, graphics cards, sound cards etc.
The XBox doesn't use Windows as an OS, therefore no DirectX. But DirectX isn't needed as the games developers know EXACTLY what hardware is available to them.
Because of this, they can 'tune' the code to get the best possible results. Which is why XBox games look better than a high end PC, even though the spec is lower.
YH, wasn't I babbling on about this in the "The pricing techniques of the Ps2, Gamecube and X-Box" topic? In fact, this is exactly what I said!
I even went further buy pointing out that the Saturn launched at a price 100 more than the Xbox, and even the N64's launch price wasn't too far off the Xbox's.
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I even went further buy pointing out that the Saturn launched at a price 100 more than the Xbox, and even the N64's launch price wasn't too far off the Xbox's.
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Sorry, yeah, by adventure I mean the Zelda-esque game, the games that evolved from platformers, and became searching for stuff in 3D worlds. The Mario's, Jak and Daxter's and the like.
Adventure games on a console? I've a funny feeling that you may mean something else. The only platform that does Adventure games at all is the PC and they are so rare, which is a shame because they are mostly quite good. Monkey Island and the like, Lucas Arts do all the best ones. Of course it's possible you mean action adventure, as opposed to the kind I mean.
Anyway, the console itself (X-Box) is more than capable of supporting great games so maybe it's not to blame. It's just a matter of waiting to see if the developers can produce them and if Microsoft can convince said developers to produce them. Then there is the old saying "to each his own" or the slightly more up to date PC (that's PC not PC) saying "to each their own". If you like a specific genre of games most of all then you should buy your games machine with this as a basis, for example a huge fighting game fan should not buy a PC since it lacks fighting games. Then again someone who loves Space Combat/Flight Sims doesn't really need a console since they lack experience in these areas. Of course the problem with liking Space Combat/Flight Sims is that they are quite rare so it's good to maintain an interest in something else, possibly Real Time Strategy or Role Playing Games (since they are another two types of game only done well on PC, oh and Zelda isn't an RPG and I suspect it never will be).
So what about Halo then, isn't it the game everyone is meant to buy the X-Box for?
Anyway, the console itself (X-Box) is more than capable of supporting great games so maybe it's not to blame. It's just a matter of waiting to see if the developers can produce them and if Microsoft can convince said developers to produce them. Then there is the old saying "to each his own" or the slightly more up to date PC (that's PC not PC) saying "to each their own". If you like a specific genre of games most of all then you should buy your games machine with this as a basis, for example a huge fighting game fan should not buy a PC since it lacks fighting games. Then again someone who loves Space Combat/Flight Sims doesn't really need a console since they lack experience in these areas. Of course the problem with liking Space Combat/Flight Sims is that they are quite rare so it's good to maintain an interest in something else, possibly Real Time Strategy or Role Playing Games (since they are another two types of game only done well on PC, oh and Zelda isn't an RPG and I suspect it never will be).
So what about Halo then, isn't it the game everyone is meant to buy the X-Box for?
Yeah I know what you mean.
"The controller is so big and heavy, I can't even lift it to play the games."
Heh, okay then.
If you liek racers, the Xbox has some top ones, and apparently there are some very good sports games out in the US already.
I imagine, given that the it's similar to develop games for as a PC (Direct X etc) that it will also be a good console for FPS fans, which I guess Halo already shows, but I didn't get to play that. Saw it running on a pod though, with a couple of kids playing it. Looked good, but you really have to play these things to get a feel for them.
"The controller is so big and heavy, I can't even lift it to play the games."
Heh, okay then.
If you liek racers, the Xbox has some top ones, and apparently there are some very good sports games out in the US already.
I imagine, given that the it's similar to develop games for as a PC (Direct X etc) that it will also be a good console for FPS fans, which I guess Halo already shows, but I didn't get to play that. Saw it running on a pod though, with a couple of kids playing it. Looked good, but you really have to play these things to get a feel for them.
That's fair enough.
You have your prefered type of game, and haven't found a good example of that yet on XBox.
But some people are just trying to put it down with stupid little comments.
Ohh it's toob big.
Ohh it's too expensive.
Ohh- SHUT UP!
You have your prefered type of game, and haven't found a good example of that yet on XBox.
But some people are just trying to put it down with stupid little comments.
Ohh it's toob big.
Ohh it's too expensive.
Ohh- SHUT UP!
Your Honour wrote:
If you think it's too much, here's a
> tip:
DON'T BUY ONE.
Nice advice, I'll take that, cheers. ;-)
Or perhaps you can see
> what a great console it is, and are just annoyed you can't afford one of your
> own?
No, it's not a great console in my opinion, as it lacks a decent adventure game or two, which just happens to be my prefered type of game.
A great console needs great games, the ones I've played on Xbox so far seem average at best BUT they have been games in genres that don't much appeal to me.
PGR wasn't much fun, the handling wasn't good, felt like the car I was using had no power steering, or grip whatsoever.
Amped was a little slow, and had to load more data mid way through a course. I thought the HDD would eliminate this type of thing?
So yeah, Xbox, bring on the adventures, and I'll give it some consideration, but after two games played, and no smile raised, I'm starting to think it was a bit of an empty promise.
If you think it's too much, here's a
> tip:
DON'T BUY ONE.
Nice advice, I'll take that, cheers. ;-)
Or perhaps you can see
> what a great console it is, and are just annoyed you can't afford one of your
> own?
No, it's not a great console in my opinion, as it lacks a decent adventure game or two, which just happens to be my prefered type of game.
A great console needs great games, the ones I've played on Xbox so far seem average at best BUT they have been games in genres that don't much appeal to me.
PGR wasn't much fun, the handling wasn't good, felt like the car I was using had no power steering, or grip whatsoever.
Amped was a little slow, and had to load more data mid way through a course. I thought the HDD would eliminate this type of thing?
So yeah, Xbox, bring on the adventures, and I'll give it some consideration, but after two games played, and no smile raised, I'm starting to think it was a bit of an empty promise.
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