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Thu 21/11/02 at 10:33
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Heard about this earlier this week from my local indie and just had it confirmed over at the DVD Forums.

From the 29th November, expect to see an XBox bundle consisting of Splinter Cell, Halo, Jet Set Radio Future and Sega GT going for £200.

Now that's a bargain!
Thu 21/11/02 at 21:42
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..arguements...arguements..!
Thu 21/11/02 at 21:40
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ÂLІÂÎR wrote:
> I wonder why you say the Japanese market? Is it because that is the
> only place Nintendo are actually doing better than the Xbox??? I think
> Nintendo should concentrate on the American, English and Oceanic
> market to be honest with you! The only person who post rubbish around
> here is you, I suppose you know what Microsoft are doing? What there
> latest plans are and how to handle the market do you? The fact is
> no-one does so saying that Microsoft are getting desperate and
> practically calling it fact is an absolute fabrication of what the
> truth is. Sales have risen by 46% in the UK since the Sega deal and
> Nitendo's have gone down by 3%! Doesn't it make sense that cutting the
> price which will then sell more generating more money for the
> companay? That is how the economy works, if you could cut the price of
> something to sell more, increase sales and create a bigger profit for
> yourself wouldn't you do it?

Nintendo are in fact beating Microsoft in Europe and America too, perhaps not in weekly sales, but in overall ones it's quite apparent the GameCube is out front. I too think Nintendo should concentrate on America and Europe, which is why they're doing so. And I post rubbish? Who are you to dictate what I should post? For crying out loud, if giving my opinion on a matter in gaming is rubbish then I think you need to think about what YOU'RE saying. As for what Microsoft are doing, I see it quite clearly, thank-you.

GameCube sales going down? Get your facts straight. Yes the X-Box is doing well, but with blitz advertising, constant price cuts and bundles, you'd expect them to. Trust me, if Microsoft didn't need to do all that - they definitely wouldn't.

> Microsoft had a very slow start I admit, but if they were desperate
> then these packages would have become widely available a long time
> before now. As the Microsoft news letter called it, these are
> Christmas packages released to increase sales and become a hot seller
> for Christmas and so far its working very nicely. Can't you take it
> that in terms of sales the Xbox is doing better than the GameCube? Or
> is it just comments you randomly make to put strong competition down?
> If Nintendo were releasing such a package then I don't think you would
> be complaining then, would you?

You're so blinded by the fact I've said something remotely bad about the X-Box, you're failing to see my point! I'm not against Microsoft cutting prices, etc to sell their console - far from it! All I said was that I wondered how the bundle would be taken by the people who have just taken advantage of the previous one.

> Its Microsoft turn to control the market ahead of Nintendo (I am
> leaving Sony out of this), not only do I have the great games to look
> forward to but also in terms of sales I am happy because the more they
> sell the longer they will last. Try and be happy for someone other
> than a GameCube owner, it might hurt but its the true spirit of
> Christmas... Maverick scroodge! The tables have truly been reversed!

You speak the most inappropriate garbage I've ever heard. Nintendo have won this year by making the most profit out of the three available consoles - that's their strategy. The fact is, Microsoft will now never make a profit on the X-Box and so therefore, never overtake Nintendo. Who gives a damn which one comes out on top? I like the GC, you like the X-Box. My initial point was a small one, yet you've managed to explode it into a fully blown console war.

Get over it.
Thu 21/11/02 at 21:37
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ÂLІÂÎR wrote:
> Its Microsoft turn to control the market ahead of Nintendo (I am
> leaving Sony out of this)

It seems MS are doing the same.

To me, it appears that MS have realised that they need to walk before they can run. Rather than trying to immediately surpass Sony, they're realising they need to secure 2nd place before trying to take on the market leader.

I can't explain why, but this pack gives me the impression that MS are attempting to capitalise on the recent turn-around in sales by putting some clear distance between themselves and Nintendo.

I think they could have done better with the software, though. (Remember, this is just my thoughts...) Splinter Cell - great game, looks set to be a big hit, should definitely be in there. JSRF - in my view, this is a limited-appeal game because of its content - a love it/hate it title. Sega GT 2002 - having played the demo, this is severely lacking as a racing game; PGR would have been a better option, I think. Halo - well, good enough game, though I found it a little disappointing as many of you know; launch title, probably should be available in most shops bargain bins anyway by now.

Still, they're free, so... :-)

My options for the 4 games would be Splinter Cell, TimeSplitters 2 in place of Halo, PGR in place of Sega GT, and Munch's Oddysee in place of JSRF.
Thu 21/11/02 at 20:39
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I wonder why you say the Japanese market? Is it because that is the only place Nintendo are actually doing better than the Xbox??? I think Nintendo should concentrate on the American, English and Oceanic market to be honest with you! The only person who post rubbish around here is you, I suppose you know what Microsoft are doing? What there latest plans are and how to handle the market do you? The fact is no-one does so saying that Microsoft are getting desperate and practically calling it fact is an absolute fabrication of what the truth is. Sales have risen by 46% in the UK since the Sega deal and Nitendo's have gone down by 3%! Doesn't it make sense that cutting the price which will then sell more generating more money for the companay? That is how the economy works, if you could cut the price of something to sell more, increase sales and create a bigger profit for yourself wouldn't you do it?

Microsoft had a very slow start I admit, but if they were desperate then these packages would have become widely available a long time before now. As the Microsoft news letter called it, these are Christmas packages released to increase sales and become a hot seller for Christmas and so far its working very nicely. Can't you take it that in terms of sales the Xbox is doing better than the GameCube? Or is it just comments you randomly make to put strong competition down? If Nintendo were releasing such a package then I don't think you would be complaining then, would you?

Its Microsoft turn to control the market ahead of Nintendo (I am leaving Sony out of this), not only do I have the great games to look forward to but also in terms of sales I am happy because the more they sell the longer they will last. Try and be happy for someone other than a GameCube owner, it might hurt but its the true spirit of Christmas... Maverick scroodge! The tables have truly been reversed!
Thu 21/11/02 at 20:33
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I think Alistair has a very good point there. And there isnt anyway that you can argue with the facts. I think that it was a pretty good move by microsoft. Now people have now excuse not to buy one of microsofts machines. I do admit that it seemed a bit dumb about a month after offering the sega bundle, they offer a newer, better one. But i can see xbox being one of the biggest selling christmas presents this year. And i cant wait to get my hands on all those titles that Ali' mentioned.
Thu 21/11/02 at 20:31
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Nice bundle..I just might get that one!!
Thu 21/11/02 at 20:22
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I'll decide what to think, thank-you very much. If I think the GameCube is better than the X-Box, then that's my opinon. I'm not facing up to any kind of crap you can spout at me because most of that was complete rubbish. I was merely saying it was rather unfair tactics that Microsoft are releasing yet ANOTHER bundle, after many have only just bought their last one. How would you feel? Oh, and they are getting desperate - why all the price cuts? Personally, I think they should be concentrating on the Japanese market instead of going crazy over here.
Thu 21/11/02 at 20:04
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Maverick what are you talking about? If anyone should be worried/desperate it should be Nintendo, Nintendo don't have much to offer in terms of Christmas games do they? Sony have GTA Vice City, Pro Evolution 2 and the new Smackdown, Microsoft have Splinter Cell, Mech Assault, Blinx: Time Sweeper, Morrowind, Ghost Recon, Unreal Championship, Phantom Crash, the SEGA PACK, Controller S, the prospects of Xbox LIVE, the ability to buy some of the amazing luanch titles and then straight after Christmas there are 7 releases including Metal Gear 2, Ninja Gaiden, Dead or Alive Beach Volleyball, Dead or Alive 4, Battlefield 1942 and Brute Force yet Nintendo have Metroid Prime and possibly Resident Evil ZERO, which although will be great won't be enough... I think you need to take some of the flack which Xbox owners have done for the past 7 months because its Nintendo who have huge gaps between games now, the boot has finally made it onto the other foot and I think you need to face up to that!
Thu 21/11/02 at 19:49
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Hmm.. not very good tactics considering a load of people have probably just bought an X-Box thanks to the SEGA pack. I wonder how this new bundle, very quickly after the SEGA one, will be received by people who've recently bought the console. Microsoft are getting desperate...
Thu 21/11/02 at 18:12
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ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! DAMN YOU MS!

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