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Yes, the Pikey does rule.
Why is it that some damn good actors are ignored or ridiculed, or snubbed by Hollywood? It's annoying when you know an actor to be brilliant and he's generally criticised for some other reason unrelated to his acting ability.
I call my first example, chap by the name of Brad Pitt.
A "pretty boy."
Everyone knows that people only go to see his films if they are:
a) Female
b) Gay
I am neither of this things. No, really. Yet I still consider him a great character actor. For a start, he got nominated for an Oscar for Twelve Monkeys. Not only does this film have a great title, with all the monkeys, but he rules in it as the schizophrenic mad type person. Bruce Willis again proves that he hasn't done a good film apart from Die Hard and The Fifth Element. Anyway, back to Brad Pitt. Seen him in Fight Club? That film rules, and it may have been mainstream Hollywood, but it's on a par with L.A. Confidential as mainstream Hollywood pap that has turned out to be a truly great film. Brad Pitt does really well in this, and shows how much he deserves to be recognized as a great actor. Another example - The Mexican. Alright, the film wasn't that impressive as a whole, but Pitt shows his versatility, and gives us a fine turn. On with the examples. Snatch. He's funny, and I know some of you don't like Guy Ritchie's Mockney Tales of Comedy and Gangstas, but I found Snatch funny. And Pitt is a pikey.
Another actor I think is unappreciated by Hollywood as a whole - Gabriel Byrne. Anyone, and I mean ANYONE who knows what makes a good film will appreciate the genius of The Usual Suspects. Now, it was Kevin Spacey who made this film, right?
Wrong, IMHO. Byrne made it, with an inspired performance as Keaton. I take nothing away from Spacey, a fine character actor, but Byrne deserves more Hollywood recognition, and what has he got? A cameo in Enemy of the State and a poorly written role in The Man in the Iron Mask. When talentless fools like George Clooney and Richard Gere get film after film after film. It's not right. I bet you Gabriel Byrne would have made the Mothman Prophecies. Someday some director is going to realise this, slap himself on his forehead, and make the film of their career. With Gabriel Byrne looking moody.
Another guy like this, Guy Pearce. One of my all-time favourite actors after I saw L.A. Confidential. He ruled everyone, even Russell Crowe (who gives, IMHO, a better performance than Gladiator) and Kevin Spacey. Then he does Memento, an truly original film, with "That Cypher guy from the Matrix and that bird for the Matrix", as my mate pointed out. Translated from retard, that means Joe Pantalino and Carrie Ann-Moss, I presume. But still, Guy Pearce runs about being the man before he forgets and starts being the man again. Just like Byrne, this guy should get more Hollywood recognition. When Brian Singer gets another film like the Usual Suspects from McQuarrie, I vote Guy Pearce and Gabriel Byrne are in it. Brad Pitt, too actually. But then the cinema will get filled with stupid little girls. And me, of course.
I think that's the problem with "pin-ups" that are also good actors. Brad Pitt is the prime example of course, but then you've got DiCaprio. Shudder. Baz Luhrman's Romeo and Juilet is superb, and he acts excellently in that. But Titanic was...y'know...in comparision. He ruled in Whats Eating Gilbert Grape? as well. As the Happy guy pointed out, he's soon appearing in Gangs of New York. Hope he rules. But film fans get disgusted by the cinema being filled by little girls with their magazines. I do too, a bit. But doesn't stop me realising what a class actor is, and recognize it in Pitt always and DiCaprio at times.
To be honest, I'll be glad when Pitt gets older and his looks go, in little girls terms. Hopefully Hollywood will have realised he's a class act by then, and he'll get serious films. Bit like Anthony Hopkins is now, I'd say. Also, remember what makes a truly great actor - Rise above the script. Prime example of someone who can't seem to do this is Ben Affleck. Give him a Kevin Smith film and he rules. Give him...well...Pearl Harbour, and he sucks. Good Will Hunting, brilliant script written by him and Damon, he rules again. is he a great actor? No.
Brad Pitt is, I think. He rises above the poor script of the Mexican to give a damn good performance, and thats all that matters, if you can hear yourself think over screaming 14 yr olds.
Jesus, whats wrong with me? First I defend shallow Hollywood crap, and now I'm defending and praising a pretty boy. Soon I'll be watching Bruckenheimer and saying what an inspired producer he is.
NEVER!
Anyway, thats my rant about actors gone. Brad Pitt does rule. Just watch Fight Club. You know it to be true.
"I need a lift in your el-truck-o to the next town-o"
Heh, superb. Cheers, Stryke.
Why is it that some damn good actors are ignored or ridiculed, or snubbed by Hollywood? It's annoying when you know an actor to be brilliant and he's generally criticised for some other reason unrelated to his acting ability.
I call my first example, chap by the name of Brad Pitt.
A "pretty boy."
Everyone knows that people only go to see his films if they are:
a) Female
b) Gay
I am neither of this things. No, really. Yet I still consider him a great character actor. For a start, he got nominated for an Oscar for Twelve Monkeys. Not only does this film have a great title, with all the monkeys, but he rules in it as the schizophrenic mad type person. Bruce Willis again proves that he hasn't done a good film apart from Die Hard and The Fifth Element. Anyway, back to Brad Pitt. Seen him in Fight Club? That film rules, and it may have been mainstream Hollywood, but it's on a par with L.A. Confidential as mainstream Hollywood pap that has turned out to be a truly great film. Brad Pitt does really well in this, and shows how much he deserves to be recognized as a great actor. Another example - The Mexican. Alright, the film wasn't that impressive as a whole, but Pitt shows his versatility, and gives us a fine turn. On with the examples. Snatch. He's funny, and I know some of you don't like Guy Ritchie's Mockney Tales of Comedy and Gangstas, but I found Snatch funny. And Pitt is a pikey.
Another actor I think is unappreciated by Hollywood as a whole - Gabriel Byrne. Anyone, and I mean ANYONE who knows what makes a good film will appreciate the genius of The Usual Suspects. Now, it was Kevin Spacey who made this film, right?
Wrong, IMHO. Byrne made it, with an inspired performance as Keaton. I take nothing away from Spacey, a fine character actor, but Byrne deserves more Hollywood recognition, and what has he got? A cameo in Enemy of the State and a poorly written role in The Man in the Iron Mask. When talentless fools like George Clooney and Richard Gere get film after film after film. It's not right. I bet you Gabriel Byrne would have made the Mothman Prophecies. Someday some director is going to realise this, slap himself on his forehead, and make the film of their career. With Gabriel Byrne looking moody.
Another guy like this, Guy Pearce. One of my all-time favourite actors after I saw L.A. Confidential. He ruled everyone, even Russell Crowe (who gives, IMHO, a better performance than Gladiator) and Kevin Spacey. Then he does Memento, an truly original film, with "That Cypher guy from the Matrix and that bird for the Matrix", as my mate pointed out. Translated from retard, that means Joe Pantalino and Carrie Ann-Moss, I presume. But still, Guy Pearce runs about being the man before he forgets and starts being the man again. Just like Byrne, this guy should get more Hollywood recognition. When Brian Singer gets another film like the Usual Suspects from McQuarrie, I vote Guy Pearce and Gabriel Byrne are in it. Brad Pitt, too actually. But then the cinema will get filled with stupid little girls. And me, of course.
I think that's the problem with "pin-ups" that are also good actors. Brad Pitt is the prime example of course, but then you've got DiCaprio. Shudder. Baz Luhrman's Romeo and Juilet is superb, and he acts excellently in that. But Titanic was...y'know...in comparision. He ruled in Whats Eating Gilbert Grape? as well. As the Happy guy pointed out, he's soon appearing in Gangs of New York. Hope he rules. But film fans get disgusted by the cinema being filled by little girls with their magazines. I do too, a bit. But doesn't stop me realising what a class actor is, and recognize it in Pitt always and DiCaprio at times.
To be honest, I'll be glad when Pitt gets older and his looks go, in little girls terms. Hopefully Hollywood will have realised he's a class act by then, and he'll get serious films. Bit like Anthony Hopkins is now, I'd say. Also, remember what makes a truly great actor - Rise above the script. Prime example of someone who can't seem to do this is Ben Affleck. Give him a Kevin Smith film and he rules. Give him...well...Pearl Harbour, and he sucks. Good Will Hunting, brilliant script written by him and Damon, he rules again. is he a great actor? No.
Brad Pitt is, I think. He rises above the poor script of the Mexican to give a damn good performance, and thats all that matters, if you can hear yourself think over screaming 14 yr olds.
Jesus, whats wrong with me? First I defend shallow Hollywood crap, and now I'm defending and praising a pretty boy. Soon I'll be watching Bruckenheimer and saying what an inspired producer he is.
NEVER!
Anyway, thats my rant about actors gone. Brad Pitt does rule. Just watch Fight Club. You know it to be true.
"I need a lift in your el-truck-o to the next town-o"
Heh, superb. Cheers, Stryke.
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I see nothing of interest in the Coen Brothers.
The Big Lebowowowowowowowowowowoski wasn't much, and the less said about O Brother Where Art Thou? the less.
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I see nothing of interest in the Coen Brothers.
The Big Lebowowowowowowowowowowoski wasn't much, and the less said about O Brother Where Art Thou? the less.
*hides more*
Gaz, have you seen Miller's Crossing? If you haven't I sugest you do. It's quality. And not only is Gabrielle Byrne in it, but John Turturro too! And a tiny role for Steve Buscemi.
Hm, that Bruce Willis comment seems to have caused a bit of a stir, when it's a minor part of the post.
And you'll find that I said Brad Pitt ruled DESPITE that fact that he's a pretty boy.
And I forgot Millers Crossing, obviously.
McQuarrie/Singer/Byrne/Pearce. It's gonna happen.
And you'll find that I said Brad Pitt ruled DESPITE that fact that he's a pretty boy.
And I forgot Millers Crossing, obviously.
McQuarrie/Singer/Byrne/Pearce. It's gonna happen.
Stryke wrote:
Bruce Willis again proves that he hasn't done a good film apart from Die Hard and The Fifth Element.
2 words for you Pulp Fiction, I thought he was also good in The Sixth Sense, oh and Fifth Element sucked so badly, it would have been just about bareable but Chris Tucker made it dire.
Brad Pitt may be a pretty boy but I still think he's a good actor, same with Dicaprio he ruled in The Basketball Diaries and What's eating Gilbert Grape it's a shame that he had to do Titanic, what a pile of smeg that was.
Gabriel Byrne may have been in some pretty crap films but he was in Millers Crossing one of the Coen's best films so i'll let him off.
Bruce Willis again proves that he hasn't done a good film apart from Die Hard and The Fifth Element.
2 words for you Pulp Fiction, I thought he was also good in The Sixth Sense, oh and Fifth Element sucked so badly, it would have been just about bareable but Chris Tucker made it dire.
Brad Pitt may be a pretty boy but I still think he's a good actor, same with Dicaprio he ruled in The Basketball Diaries and What's eating Gilbert Grape it's a shame that he had to do Titanic, what a pile of smeg that was.
Gabriel Byrne may have been in some pretty crap films but he was in Millers Crossing one of the Coen's best films so i'll let him off.
VottA.Inator wrote:
And he was excellent in Traffic though. Got an oscar, didn't he? Beat Haley Joel Osment, DIDN'T HE?! :-D
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That means he rules. And Mr Oscar loves a YankYank actor.
Hmm...YankYank...
And he was excellent in Traffic though. Got an oscar, didn't he? Beat Haley Joel Osment, DIDN'T HE?! :-D
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That means he rules. And Mr Oscar loves a YankYank actor.
Hmm...YankYank...
Mr.Snuggly wrote:
> Wanna know my favourite actor? Benecio Del Toro. No-one mumbles incoherantly
> quite like him. Seen Way of the Gun? He's great in that.
Yes, Benicio Del Toro does rule! He was absolutely amazing in Snatch. I mean all that acting with the tea cosey on his head. :-D
"Where is da stone? Where is da stooooone?"
And he was excellent in Traffic though. Got an oscar, didn't he? Beat Haley Joel Osment, DIDN'T HE?! :-D
"Everybody likes baseball"
That film has the perfect ending. The music is soooo good.
> Wanna know my favourite actor? Benecio Del Toro. No-one mumbles incoherantly
> quite like him. Seen Way of the Gun? He's great in that.
Yes, Benicio Del Toro does rule! He was absolutely amazing in Snatch. I mean all that acting with the tea cosey on his head. :-D
"Where is da stone? Where is da stooooone?"
And he was excellent in Traffic though. Got an oscar, didn't he? Beat Haley Joel Osment, DIDN'T HE?! :-D
"Everybody likes baseball"
That film has the perfect ending. The music is soooo good.
Thank you Meka. You're the only one who has actually defended Bruce Willis.
I honestly cannot believe that you said he was good in Die Hard and Sixth Sense yet you didn't mention Sixth Sense. Oh no I remember. Haley Joel Osment is in that and anything with him in, can't have anything good about it, right? After all, his 'yankyness' as you put it, is unrivalled. Now is where I think I should say that you have no idea what you're talking about. :-D
Unbreakable too. He was good in that as well. Although I suppose it was from M Night Shyamalan, who directed Sixth Sense. If he directed a film with Osment in, he couldn't possibly ever direct a good film. Am I right again? :-D
And what is it with people saying "Bruckenheimer"?! It is BRUCKHEIMER!!!! Goddammit! Get it right!! I may be over reacting but it annoys the hell out of me!
I didn't think Romeo and Juliet was very good. Mind you, I did watch it in English in year 9 after going through every scene of the play and being bored to death, and then analysing every single scene.
I honestly cannot believe that you said he was good in Die Hard and Sixth Sense yet you didn't mention Sixth Sense. Oh no I remember. Haley Joel Osment is in that and anything with him in, can't have anything good about it, right? After all, his 'yankyness' as you put it, is unrivalled. Now is where I think I should say that you have no idea what you're talking about. :-D
Unbreakable too. He was good in that as well. Although I suppose it was from M Night Shyamalan, who directed Sixth Sense. If he directed a film with Osment in, he couldn't possibly ever direct a good film. Am I right again? :-D
And what is it with people saying "Bruckenheimer"?! It is BRUCKHEIMER!!!! Goddammit! Get it right!! I may be over reacting but it annoys the hell out of me!
I didn't think Romeo and Juliet was very good. Mind you, I did watch it in English in year 9 after going through every scene of the play and being bored to death, and then analysing every single scene.
Damn you to Grimsby Meka. Go and get LA Confidential now.
Del Toro made me laugh in Licence to Kill. He mumbles quite a bit in that. But he was better in Usual Suspects than in Traffic.
"Han m'da f**'ing ke ye cksuck."
"In English please."
Heh, superb.
Del Toro made me laugh in Licence to Kill. He mumbles quite a bit in that. But he was better in Usual Suspects than in Traffic.
"Han m'da f**'ing ke ye cksuck."
"In English please."
Heh, superb.
Wanna know my favourite actor? Benecio Del Toro. No-one mumbles incoherantly quite like him. Seen Way of the Gun? He's great in that.
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