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As I go on my war path to moan at every console bar Nintendo I will move to what is now known as the X-box...
The X-box has an immediate difference compared with both the Playstation and the Gamecube, it is American. And the way it is being shown off is obvious. Although I am very much anti-Playstation it didn't simply force its way into the industry. The Playstation was a well-designed console, admittedly not as impressive as the N64 specification wise but with CD technology, easy 3D graphics and plenty of public support, designers of all shapes and sizes approached the Playstation. It was because of how Sony developed the Playstation that caused its massive success!
Nintendo are also different, they have been around for over 100 years and have slowly gained respect of the Japanese public. When they designed the first Game and Watch systems they were not a massive success and got hold of a very imaginative man Shiguru Miyamoto who invented Donkey Kong and Nintendo took off. Shiguru or Shigsy as he is often known trained other developers up, telling them not to worry about systems specifications and let their minds run riot. Nintendo didn't just steal designers from other companies they created there own, Nintendo are a company that have slowly grown and expanded and do keep getting better and better.
So here comes the lets dig at Microsoft technique. As much as it would be nice to say that Microsoft will be successful because they will create a system that is attractive to third party developers like the Playstation was or have over many years, matured and trained their own designers in order to get better and better like Nintendo did, I just can't. And you will all agree Microsoft has barged its way into the industry, it has bought its way in. It has failed to gain any respect like Sony and Nintendo instead it has bought it! Microsoft haven't designed a system that is attractive to third party developers, it has spent loads of cash on the best specs, broadband Internet, hard drives and such like. This is what it has done it hasn't like the Playstation (or more recently the Gamecube) been cleverly designed so it doesn't need all these flashy extras.
As for maturing designers, you are kidding me right? Sony's Playstation has managed to make itself successful gaining large amounts of third party support, yes I often say Sony's success lies with its Third party support and I am right but this Third Party support has appeared because Sony managed to make such a good system in the first place! Nintendo have managed to train up a brilliant squad of designers, Shiguru and Satoshi are names of two of the more famous ones. Meanwhile Microsoft didn't do any of the above, it bought the exclusive rights to popular beat 'em up Dead or Alive 3, it bought many companies such as Halo developers Bungie, it grabbed exclusive rights to as many games as possible such as Jet Set Radio Future and Shenmue! Microsoft has guaranteed a good set of games not by attracting them or by training them but by buying them.
Then there is advertisement, sure Sony advertises a lot but Microsoft's advertisement is stupid! In Australia there is floor tiles with X's on it!!! They go and make a big fuss out of the games they bought the rights too, it brags about the DVD player, the MP3 player, the Hard Drive and the internet out of the box which it rammed into the system in order to buy the public over! It begins to worry me about the future of video games. Microsoft is all we can (realistically) have as regards PC's, but now Microsoft has strong competition in the form of Playstation and Nintendo. And as rich those two Japanese kings maybe Microsoft are just that bit richer, and I was seriously worried that they will eventually crush Sony and Nintendo. Luckily the Third Party Developers aren't willing to let this happen, already afraid the Playstation 2 would rule the market they decided to make more multi-format games. This is because Sony can't start making developers pay more for the DVD's and the public more for the games as they are forced to drive prices down to better the competition!
But you can't deny Microsoft are doing something definatly American and trying their best to buy in to a booming industry caused by Nintendo and Sony. Despite this dig at the X-box it has got the rights to some first rate titles that make the system become very good indeed. But I can tell you this, Microsoft can buy all the best developers, specialists and advertisement but it can't buy my love.
Here's to the Future.
Dringo.
The X-box has an immediate difference compared with both the Playstation and the Gamecube, it is American. And the way it is being shown off is obvious. Although I am very much anti-Playstation it didn't simply force its way into the industry. The Playstation was a well-designed console, admittedly not as impressive as the N64 specification wise but with CD technology, easy 3D graphics and plenty of public support, designers of all shapes and sizes approached the Playstation. It was because of how Sony developed the Playstation that caused its massive success!
Nintendo are also different, they have been around for over 100 years and have slowly gained respect of the Japanese public. When they designed the first Game and Watch systems they were not a massive success and got hold of a very imaginative man Shiguru Miyamoto who invented Donkey Kong and Nintendo took off. Shiguru or Shigsy as he is often known trained other developers up, telling them not to worry about systems specifications and let their minds run riot. Nintendo didn't just steal designers from other companies they created there own, Nintendo are a company that have slowly grown and expanded and do keep getting better and better.
So here comes the lets dig at Microsoft technique. As much as it would be nice to say that Microsoft will be successful because they will create a system that is attractive to third party developers like the Playstation was or have over many years, matured and trained their own designers in order to get better and better like Nintendo did, I just can't. And you will all agree Microsoft has barged its way into the industry, it has bought its way in. It has failed to gain any respect like Sony and Nintendo instead it has bought it! Microsoft haven't designed a system that is attractive to third party developers, it has spent loads of cash on the best specs, broadband Internet, hard drives and such like. This is what it has done it hasn't like the Playstation (or more recently the Gamecube) been cleverly designed so it doesn't need all these flashy extras.
As for maturing designers, you are kidding me right? Sony's Playstation has managed to make itself successful gaining large amounts of third party support, yes I often say Sony's success lies with its Third party support and I am right but this Third Party support has appeared because Sony managed to make such a good system in the first place! Nintendo have managed to train up a brilliant squad of designers, Shiguru and Satoshi are names of two of the more famous ones. Meanwhile Microsoft didn't do any of the above, it bought the exclusive rights to popular beat 'em up Dead or Alive 3, it bought many companies such as Halo developers Bungie, it grabbed exclusive rights to as many games as possible such as Jet Set Radio Future and Shenmue! Microsoft has guaranteed a good set of games not by attracting them or by training them but by buying them.
Then there is advertisement, sure Sony advertises a lot but Microsoft's advertisement is stupid! In Australia there is floor tiles with X's on it!!! They go and make a big fuss out of the games they bought the rights too, it brags about the DVD player, the MP3 player, the Hard Drive and the internet out of the box which it rammed into the system in order to buy the public over! It begins to worry me about the future of video games. Microsoft is all we can (realistically) have as regards PC's, but now Microsoft has strong competition in the form of Playstation and Nintendo. And as rich those two Japanese kings maybe Microsoft are just that bit richer, and I was seriously worried that they will eventually crush Sony and Nintendo. Luckily the Third Party Developers aren't willing to let this happen, already afraid the Playstation 2 would rule the market they decided to make more multi-format games. This is because Sony can't start making developers pay more for the DVD's and the public more for the games as they are forced to drive prices down to better the competition!
But you can't deny Microsoft are doing something definatly American and trying their best to buy in to a booming industry caused by Nintendo and Sony. Despite this dig at the X-box it has got the rights to some first rate titles that make the system become very good indeed. But I can tell you this, Microsoft can buy all the best developers, specialists and advertisement but it can't buy my love.
Here's to the Future.
Dringo.
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Dringo wrote:
It was because of how Sony
> developed the Playstation that caused its massive success!
Excellent topic Dringo, although please excuse me in correcting a few things ; )
Firstly, Sony gained alot of Support not through its own doing, but from Nintendo's approach pre-N64. The reason being was simple (What most forget) Nintendo sticking with the Cartridge format, Squaresoft in essence where Nintendo Loyalists and where sticking with Nintendo to the end, but they wanted Nintendo to have a CD format with the N64, It didn't work-So-Squaresoft give a two finger salute and joined the ranks of the relatively small development teams for the Playstation. The same happened with Namco too, Nintendo had a row with them and the only option was to jump ship to the PS.
Now where on earth would Sony have been without the Success of Final Fantasy and Ridge Racer? These titles not only where successful, but they helped to encourage other development teams the world over to develop for the PS rather than the N64. And it worked in favour for Sony, guaranteeing the system to be a huge success.
>Nintendo are also
> different, they have been around for over 100 years
100 Years, quite right but 70 of those years was devoted to the Japanese Hanafuda playing cards. Giving them an experience of roughly 30 years in the industry. At the Moment, Nintendo are the only original Games company left in the industry that has their own console.
It was because of how Sony
> developed the Playstation that caused its massive success!
Excellent topic Dringo, although please excuse me in correcting a few things ; )
Firstly, Sony gained alot of Support not through its own doing, but from Nintendo's approach pre-N64. The reason being was simple (What most forget) Nintendo sticking with the Cartridge format, Squaresoft in essence where Nintendo Loyalists and where sticking with Nintendo to the end, but they wanted Nintendo to have a CD format with the N64, It didn't work-So-Squaresoft give a two finger salute and joined the ranks of the relatively small development teams for the Playstation. The same happened with Namco too, Nintendo had a row with them and the only option was to jump ship to the PS.
Now where on earth would Sony have been without the Success of Final Fantasy and Ridge Racer? These titles not only where successful, but they helped to encourage other development teams the world over to develop for the PS rather than the N64. And it worked in favour for Sony, guaranteeing the system to be a huge success.
>Nintendo are also
> different, they have been around for over 100 years
100 Years, quite right but 70 of those years was devoted to the Japanese Hanafuda playing cards. Giving them an experience of roughly 30 years in the industry. At the Moment, Nintendo are the only original Games company left in the industry that has their own console.
As I go on my war path to moan at every console bar Nintendo I will move to what is now known as the X-box...
The X-box has an immediate difference compared with both the Playstation and the Gamecube, it is American. And the way it is being shown off is obvious. Although I am very much anti-Playstation it didn't simply force its way into the industry. The Playstation was a well-designed console, admittedly not as impressive as the N64 specification wise but with CD technology, easy 3D graphics and plenty of public support, designers of all shapes and sizes approached the Playstation. It was because of how Sony developed the Playstation that caused its massive success!
Nintendo are also different, they have been around for over 100 years and have slowly gained respect of the Japanese public. When they designed the first Game and Watch systems they were not a massive success and got hold of a very imaginative man Shiguru Miyamoto who invented Donkey Kong and Nintendo took off. Shiguru or Shigsy as he is often known trained other developers up, telling them not to worry about systems specifications and let their minds run riot. Nintendo didn't just steal designers from other companies they created there own, Nintendo are a company that have slowly grown and expanded and do keep getting better and better.
So here comes the lets dig at Microsoft technique. As much as it would be nice to say that Microsoft will be successful because they will create a system that is attractive to third party developers like the Playstation was or have over many years, matured and trained their own designers in order to get better and better like Nintendo did, I just can't. And you will all agree Microsoft has barged its way into the industry, it has bought its way in. It has failed to gain any respect like Sony and Nintendo instead it has bought it! Microsoft haven't designed a system that is attractive to third party developers, it has spent loads of cash on the best specs, broadband Internet, hard drives and such like. This is what it has done it hasn't like the Playstation (or more recently the Gamecube) been cleverly designed so it doesn't need all these flashy extras.
As for maturing designers, you are kidding me right? Sony's Playstation has managed to make itself successful gaining large amounts of third party support, yes I often say Sony's success lies with its Third party support and I am right but this Third Party support has appeared because Sony managed to make such a good system in the first place! Nintendo have managed to train up a brilliant squad of designers, Shiguru and Satoshi are names of two of the more famous ones. Meanwhile Microsoft didn't do any of the above, it bought the exclusive rights to popular beat 'em up Dead or Alive 3, it bought many companies such as Halo developers Bungie, it grabbed exclusive rights to as many games as possible such as Jet Set Radio Future and Shenmue! Microsoft has guaranteed a good set of games not by attracting them or by training them but by buying them.
Then there is advertisement, sure Sony advertises a lot but Microsoft's advertisement is stupid! In Australia there is floor tiles with X's on it!!! They go and make a big fuss out of the games they bought the rights too, it brags about the DVD player, the MP3 player, the Hard Drive and the internet out of the box which it rammed into the system in order to buy the public over! It begins to worry me about the future of video games. Microsoft is all we can (realistically) have as regards PC's, but now Microsoft has strong competition in the form of Playstation and Nintendo. And as rich those two Japanese kings maybe Microsoft are just that bit richer, and I was seriously worried that they will eventually crush Sony and Nintendo. Luckily the Third Party Developers aren't willing to let this happen, already afraid the Playstation 2 would rule the market they decided to make more multi-format games. This is because Sony can't start making developers pay more for the DVD's and the public more for the games as they are forced to drive prices down to better the competition!
But you can't deny Microsoft are doing something definatly American and trying their best to buy in to a booming industry caused by Nintendo and Sony. Despite this dig at the X-box it has got the rights to some first rate titles that make the system become very good indeed. But I can tell you this, Microsoft can buy all the best developers, specialists and advertisement but it can't buy my love.
Here's to the Future.
Dringo.
The X-box has an immediate difference compared with both the Playstation and the Gamecube, it is American. And the way it is being shown off is obvious. Although I am very much anti-Playstation it didn't simply force its way into the industry. The Playstation was a well-designed console, admittedly not as impressive as the N64 specification wise but with CD technology, easy 3D graphics and plenty of public support, designers of all shapes and sizes approached the Playstation. It was because of how Sony developed the Playstation that caused its massive success!
Nintendo are also different, they have been around for over 100 years and have slowly gained respect of the Japanese public. When they designed the first Game and Watch systems they were not a massive success and got hold of a very imaginative man Shiguru Miyamoto who invented Donkey Kong and Nintendo took off. Shiguru or Shigsy as he is often known trained other developers up, telling them not to worry about systems specifications and let their minds run riot. Nintendo didn't just steal designers from other companies they created there own, Nintendo are a company that have slowly grown and expanded and do keep getting better and better.
So here comes the lets dig at Microsoft technique. As much as it would be nice to say that Microsoft will be successful because they will create a system that is attractive to third party developers like the Playstation was or have over many years, matured and trained their own designers in order to get better and better like Nintendo did, I just can't. And you will all agree Microsoft has barged its way into the industry, it has bought its way in. It has failed to gain any respect like Sony and Nintendo instead it has bought it! Microsoft haven't designed a system that is attractive to third party developers, it has spent loads of cash on the best specs, broadband Internet, hard drives and such like. This is what it has done it hasn't like the Playstation (or more recently the Gamecube) been cleverly designed so it doesn't need all these flashy extras.
As for maturing designers, you are kidding me right? Sony's Playstation has managed to make itself successful gaining large amounts of third party support, yes I often say Sony's success lies with its Third party support and I am right but this Third Party support has appeared because Sony managed to make such a good system in the first place! Nintendo have managed to train up a brilliant squad of designers, Shiguru and Satoshi are names of two of the more famous ones. Meanwhile Microsoft didn't do any of the above, it bought the exclusive rights to popular beat 'em up Dead or Alive 3, it bought many companies such as Halo developers Bungie, it grabbed exclusive rights to as many games as possible such as Jet Set Radio Future and Shenmue! Microsoft has guaranteed a good set of games not by attracting them or by training them but by buying them.
Then there is advertisement, sure Sony advertises a lot but Microsoft's advertisement is stupid! In Australia there is floor tiles with X's on it!!! They go and make a big fuss out of the games they bought the rights too, it brags about the DVD player, the MP3 player, the Hard Drive and the internet out of the box which it rammed into the system in order to buy the public over! It begins to worry me about the future of video games. Microsoft is all we can (realistically) have as regards PC's, but now Microsoft has strong competition in the form of Playstation and Nintendo. And as rich those two Japanese kings maybe Microsoft are just that bit richer, and I was seriously worried that they will eventually crush Sony and Nintendo. Luckily the Third Party Developers aren't willing to let this happen, already afraid the Playstation 2 would rule the market they decided to make more multi-format games. This is because Sony can't start making developers pay more for the DVD's and the public more for the games as they are forced to drive prices down to better the competition!
But you can't deny Microsoft are doing something definatly American and trying their best to buy in to a booming industry caused by Nintendo and Sony. Despite this dig at the X-box it has got the rights to some first rate titles that make the system become very good indeed. But I can tell you this, Microsoft can buy all the best developers, specialists and advertisement but it can't buy my love.
Here's to the Future.
Dringo.
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