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After seeing how badly Total Recall turned out, I was trying to think of a good movie remake and I just couldn't think of that many.
I can think of plenty of terrible or just plain pointless ones; Bedazzled, Psycho, carrie, The Omen and many more.
A few good ones come to mind; The Birdcage, Always, Ben Hur, Brewsters Millions, The Magnificent Seven, Flash Gordon.
So I was wondering, why bother at all if the original is any good?
There are several types of remake; foreign films remade for an English market (The Ring, Vanilla Sky, Dark Water, REC), modern remakes of really old films (Sabrina, Ben Hur), different takes on the same theme or alternate versions that are not sequels (Planet of the Apes, I Am Legend).
Any that you can think of?
I can think of plenty of terrible or just plain pointless ones; Bedazzled, Psycho, carrie, The Omen and many more.
A few good ones come to mind; The Birdcage, Always, Ben Hur, Brewsters Millions, The Magnificent Seven, Flash Gordon.
So I was wondering, why bother at all if the original is any good?
There are several types of remake; foreign films remade for an English market (The Ring, Vanilla Sky, Dark Water, REC), modern remakes of really old films (Sabrina, Ben Hur), different takes on the same theme or alternate versions that are not sequels (Planet of the Apes, I Am Legend).
Any that you can think of?
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Just thought of another one: Never Say Never Again.
Less obvious, but I reckon that still counts as a remake.
Less obvious, but I reckon that still counts as a remake.
pb wrote:
Isn't that the subheading for The Daily Mail?
You have now offended me beyond belief! I cannot believe it!
Isn't that the subheading for The Daily Mail?
You have now offended me beyond belief! I cannot believe it!
DL wrote:
Haha ... everyday life is scary :¬D
Isn't that the subheading for The Daily Mail?
Haha ... everyday life is scary :¬D
Isn't that the subheading for The Daily Mail?
Haha ... everyday life is scary :¬D
DL wrote:
pb wrote:
[i]People like to be frightened in a 'safe' environment.
Boo!!!!! :¬)[/i]
I enjoyed that...
pb wrote:
[i]People like to be frightened in a 'safe' environment.
Boo!!!!! :¬)[/i]
I enjoyed that...
pb wrote:
People like to be frightened in a 'safe' environment.
Boo!!!!! :¬)
People like to be frightened in a 'safe' environment.
Boo!!!!! :¬)
People like to be frightened in a 'safe' environment.
Horror films are just a progression from ghost stories, which have been around for many thousands of years.
Suspense style horror films play on perception, rather than horror in a physical form, but it's always interesting to explore the psyche of a human protagonist in a more realistic horror film, in the same way as it is in a crime drama or gangster movie.
In the same way, humans have always been intrigued by the more supernatural or unidentified forces of good and evil, whether these are perceived as real or imaginary. Many horror films are less about the gore itself as they are about the main character(s) overcoming insurmountable odds to escape or defeat the threat, an age old story told in modern form which can be traced back to early stories. Think of Odysseus trying to resist the deadly lure of the sirens or many of the other Greek tragedies.
Horror films are just a progression from ghost stories, which have been around for many thousands of years.
Suspense style horror films play on perception, rather than horror in a physical form, but it's always interesting to explore the psyche of a human protagonist in a more realistic horror film, in the same way as it is in a crime drama or gangster movie.
In the same way, humans have always been intrigued by the more supernatural or unidentified forces of good and evil, whether these are perceived as real or imaginary. Many horror films are less about the gore itself as they are about the main character(s) overcoming insurmountable odds to escape or defeat the threat, an age old story told in modern form which can be traced back to early stories. Think of Odysseus trying to resist the deadly lure of the sirens or many of the other Greek tragedies.
DL wrote:
So if you know it is ... then why watch it?
In most cases I don't generally bother TBH DL. If yet another CGI-tastic spook film or gory teen slasher turns up I will generally avoid it like the plague, not for any other real reason than I find that stuff boring. However if something that does catch my attention comes out then I will usually give it a whirl (quite often regret bothering after though!). I have actually quite enjoyed a few things which I would class as nonsense although some people don't always appear to share my view. Noticed some idiot in the comments section on YouTube the other day harping on about how the Dead Or Alive video games should be banned because they glorify violence towards women!, can't say I've experienced that while playing one myself? (and actually doubt that 'crusader' had even played one TBH). I suppose it's easy for some to question why bother with this or that genre but some creators do occasionally come up stuff that is actually pretty good within those genres.
So if you know it is ... then why watch it?
In most cases I don't generally bother TBH DL. If yet another CGI-tastic spook film or gory teen slasher turns up I will generally avoid it like the plague, not for any other real reason than I find that stuff boring. However if something that does catch my attention comes out then I will usually give it a whirl (quite often regret bothering after though!). I have actually quite enjoyed a few things which I would class as nonsense although some people don't always appear to share my view. Noticed some idiot in the comments section on YouTube the other day harping on about how the Dead Or Alive video games should be banned because they glorify violence towards women!, can't say I've experienced that while playing one myself? (and actually doubt that 'crusader' had even played one TBH). I suppose it's easy for some to question why bother with this or that genre but some creators do occasionally come up stuff that is actually pretty good within those genres.
pete_21 wrote:
No one wants to see what I would class as 'realistic horror', there's sadly enough of that in the real world.
It's a shame that people don't see the realistic horror that is inflicted around them each and every day by ordinary folk ... stuff that movies are made from!
Monsters, ghosties, demons and the like are all good though, as when the 90 minutes are over we know what we have just experienced was really nothing more than load of old b******s.
So if you know it is ... then why watch it?
No one wants to see what I would class as 'realistic horror', there's sadly enough of that in the real world.
It's a shame that people don't see the realistic horror that is inflicted around them each and every day by ordinary folk ... stuff that movies are made from!
Monsters, ghosties, demons and the like are all good though, as when the 90 minutes are over we know what we have just experienced was really nothing more than load of old b******s.
So if you know it is ... then why watch it?
DL wrote:
Forgive me pete and any others ... but just what is it about this 'Evil Dead/Zombies/Horror genre that seems to be so appealing within the movie business to day? We did have 'snuff movies' many years ago and they didn't seem to last long or maybe they did?
I'm probably not I'm the best person to answer this as I'm not really a massive horror film fan. As with other genres though, when horror is done well (or sometimes just differently) the result can be good entertainment. There's a reason people watch horror, they like being scared and mostly by things which are a million miles away from reality. No one wants to see what I would class as 'realistic horror', there's sadly enough of that in the real world. Monsters, ghosties, demons and the like are all good though, as when the 90 minutes are over we know what we have just experienced was really nothing more than load of old b******s.
As for 'snuff movies' they don't seem quite so popular these days, apparently filmmakers had terrible trouble getting the stars to return for sequels... :)
Forgive me pete and any others ... but just what is it about this 'Evil Dead/Zombies/Horror genre that seems to be so appealing within the movie business to day? We did have 'snuff movies' many years ago and they didn't seem to last long or maybe they did?
I'm probably not I'm the best person to answer this as I'm not really a massive horror film fan. As with other genres though, when horror is done well (or sometimes just differently) the result can be good entertainment. There's a reason people watch horror, they like being scared and mostly by things which are a million miles away from reality. No one wants to see what I would class as 'realistic horror', there's sadly enough of that in the real world. Monsters, ghosties, demons and the like are all good though, as when the 90 minutes are over we know what we have just experienced was really nothing more than load of old b******s.
As for 'snuff movies' they don't seem quite so popular these days, apparently filmmakers had terrible trouble getting the stars to return for sequels... :)
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