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Why is everyone still going on about this "console war"- the idea simply doesn't apply any more....
You see, in the past the market has always been so small that only one or two of the consoles could survive in a market that crammed consoles into it like sardines in a tin.
In the 8 and 16bit ages there were dozens of different consoles, yet only a few million gamers worldwide to buy them. Nintendo outsold all the other consoles put together, and only Sega and Nintendo cracked the Western market.
Moving on, between the 16 and 32bit eras, you saw consoles from the Jaguar to the 3DO appear- all of which failed.
The turning point in the industry was when the 32bit era really arrived with the Playstation. The market increased for a few million gamers worldwide to over a hundred million console gamers- mostly due to Sony's influence.
So, why then was the PS a complete runaway? Well, cimply because there was no viable competition to it- the Staurn was too pricey, and the N64 hit the market too late.
However, now we have a new type of market- hundreds of millions of gamers, and only 3 console- all of which are pretty good. As sales figures show, all 3 consoles are selling well enough to give them a big share in the market, with analysts predicting the PS2 taking 45% of the market, Xbox with 35% and the Gc with 20%.
So, my point? Well, there isn't a console war! The market is big enough to support all the consoles, and indeed is doind so quite nicely. For the first time in 6 years we have some really competition between consoles- and that can only be a good thing for the gamer!
No doubt we'll see games and consoles getting cheaper, manufacturers like Sony and Microsoft putting more money to get a top list of excluive titles, and more money put into the market allowing it to further grow.
The futures bright.
Sonic
You see, in the past the market has always been so small that only one or two of the consoles could survive in a market that crammed consoles into it like sardines in a tin.
In the 8 and 16bit ages there were dozens of different consoles, yet only a few million gamers worldwide to buy them. Nintendo outsold all the other consoles put together, and only Sega and Nintendo cracked the Western market.
Moving on, between the 16 and 32bit eras, you saw consoles from the Jaguar to the 3DO appear- all of which failed.
The turning point in the industry was when the 32bit era really arrived with the Playstation. The market increased for a few million gamers worldwide to over a hundred million console gamers- mostly due to Sony's influence.
So, why then was the PS a complete runaway? Well, cimply because there was no viable competition to it- the Staurn was too pricey, and the N64 hit the market too late.
However, now we have a new type of market- hundreds of millions of gamers, and only 3 console- all of which are pretty good. As sales figures show, all 3 consoles are selling well enough to give them a big share in the market, with analysts predicting the PS2 taking 45% of the market, Xbox with 35% and the Gc with 20%.
So, my point? Well, there isn't a console war! The market is big enough to support all the consoles, and indeed is doind so quite nicely. For the first time in 6 years we have some really competition between consoles- and that can only be a good thing for the gamer!
No doubt we'll see games and consoles getting cheaper, manufacturers like Sony and Microsoft putting more money to get a top list of excluive titles, and more money put into the market allowing it to further grow.
The futures bright.
Sonic
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Tony_Blair wrote:
> where does Ninty come in this
Well, they'll have a 20% console market share
Sonic
> where does Ninty come in this
Well, they'll have a 20% console market share
Sonic
where does Ninty come in this
Afro, surely that was spamming?
Perhaps to raise yourself in the top posters list? You're ONLY 2nd at the mo... maybe we know why you got that high?
Sonic
Perhaps to raise yourself in the top posters list? You're ONLY 2nd at the mo... maybe we know why you got that high?
Sonic
pb wrote:
> I agree with the things you say there Sonic, the games market has changed and
> profits for all companies currently selling consoles are far beyond what they
> used to be.
It's all about keeping to your own market value and not trying
> to exceed your means. Nintendo did well enough with the N64 not to complain,
> they didn't sell half as many units as the PSX (game prices were partly to blame
> for that) but they made enough to be happy. The Gamecube will exceed this as
> the games market expands even more and publicity is even greater.
The Xbox
> and PS2 will sell really well because the people behind them know how to sell
> products, as well as the consoles they are now selling being very good and
> highly desirable items.
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I have nothing to say that hasn't been said in this post.
> I agree with the things you say there Sonic, the games market has changed and
> profits for all companies currently selling consoles are far beyond what they
> used to be.
It's all about keeping to your own market value and not trying
> to exceed your means. Nintendo did well enough with the N64 not to complain,
> they didn't sell half as many units as the PSX (game prices were partly to blame
> for that) but they made enough to be happy. The Gamecube will exceed this as
> the games market expands even more and publicity is even greater.
The Xbox
> and PS2 will sell really well because the people behind them know how to sell
> products, as well as the consoles they are now selling being very good and
> highly desirable items.
-----
I have nothing to say that hasn't been said in this post.
I agree with the things you say there Sonic, the games market has changed and profits for all companies currently selling consoles are far beyond what they used to be.
It's all about keeping to your own market value and not trying to exceed your means. Nintendo did well enough with the N64 not to complain, they didn't sell half as many units as the PSX (game prices were partly to blame for that) but they made enough to be happy. The Gamecube will exceed this as the games market expands even more and publicity is even greater.
The Xbox and PS2 will sell really well because the people behind them know how to sell products, as well as the consoles they are now selling being very good and highly desirable items.
It's all about keeping to your own market value and not trying to exceed your means. Nintendo did well enough with the N64 not to complain, they didn't sell half as many units as the PSX (game prices were partly to blame for that) but they made enough to be happy. The Gamecube will exceed this as the games market expands even more and publicity is even greater.
The Xbox and PS2 will sell really well because the people behind them know how to sell products, as well as the consoles they are now selling being very good and highly desirable items.
Is anyone going to actually reply to the real post?
Sonic
Sonic
You're right, sorry. I think it's cuz I read about 3 different topics (including this one) and didn't reply in the others. And got them all muddled up and posted a mixed response here. I read my post again after I had posted it and realised what I had done! D'oh!
ummm... what did that have to do with anything I said?
Sonic
Sonic
I think that the success of companies like Nintendo is due to experience, They've been around for over 100 years, everyone knows them, and many people like what they produce.
Sony are also well known due to their success with other elecronic gadgets, and were well known before the Playstation. They haven't got a lt of experience with consoles, but they have with electronics. I also think that the main reason for the PSX to outsell was due to piracy and imports!!
Micrososft haven't got a lot of experiene with consoles, but they know about bigger things, and popular games and programs. With their wealth and the console's power they can go far.
And Sega are still a very well known name, producing similar goods to that of Nintendo. They may not have a console at the moment, but they must have ended the Dreamcast for a reason!!
Good post by the way.
Sony are also well known due to their success with other elecronic gadgets, and were well known before the Playstation. They haven't got a lt of experience with consoles, but they have with electronics. I also think that the main reason for the PSX to outsell was due to piracy and imports!!
Micrososft haven't got a lot of experiene with consoles, but they know about bigger things, and popular games and programs. With their wealth and the console's power they can go far.
And Sega are still a very well known name, producing similar goods to that of Nintendo. They may not have a console at the moment, but they must have ended the Dreamcast for a reason!!
Good post by the way.
Why is everyone still going on about this "console war"- the idea simply doesn't apply any more....
You see, in the past the market has always been so small that only one or two of the consoles could survive in a market that crammed consoles into it like sardines in a tin.
In the 8 and 16bit ages there were dozens of different consoles, yet only a few million gamers worldwide to buy them. Nintendo outsold all the other consoles put together, and only Sega and Nintendo cracked the Western market.
Moving on, between the 16 and 32bit eras, you saw consoles from the Jaguar to the 3DO appear- all of which failed.
The turning point in the industry was when the 32bit era really arrived with the Playstation. The market increased for a few million gamers worldwide to over a hundred million console gamers- mostly due to Sony's influence.
So, why then was the PS a complete runaway? Well, cimply because there was no viable competition to it- the Staurn was too pricey, and the N64 hit the market too late.
However, now we have a new type of market- hundreds of millions of gamers, and only 3 console- all of which are pretty good. As sales figures show, all 3 consoles are selling well enough to give them a big share in the market, with analysts predicting the PS2 taking 45% of the market, Xbox with 35% and the Gc with 20%.
So, my point? Well, there isn't a console war! The market is big enough to support all the consoles, and indeed is doind so quite nicely. For the first time in 6 years we have some really competition between consoles- and that can only be a good thing for the gamer!
No doubt we'll see games and consoles getting cheaper, manufacturers like Sony and Microsoft putting more money to get a top list of excluive titles, and more money put into the market allowing it to further grow.
The futures bright.
Sonic
You see, in the past the market has always been so small that only one or two of the consoles could survive in a market that crammed consoles into it like sardines in a tin.
In the 8 and 16bit ages there were dozens of different consoles, yet only a few million gamers worldwide to buy them. Nintendo outsold all the other consoles put together, and only Sega and Nintendo cracked the Western market.
Moving on, between the 16 and 32bit eras, you saw consoles from the Jaguar to the 3DO appear- all of which failed.
The turning point in the industry was when the 32bit era really arrived with the Playstation. The market increased for a few million gamers worldwide to over a hundred million console gamers- mostly due to Sony's influence.
So, why then was the PS a complete runaway? Well, cimply because there was no viable competition to it- the Staurn was too pricey, and the N64 hit the market too late.
However, now we have a new type of market- hundreds of millions of gamers, and only 3 console- all of which are pretty good. As sales figures show, all 3 consoles are selling well enough to give them a big share in the market, with analysts predicting the PS2 taking 45% of the market, Xbox with 35% and the Gc with 20%.
So, my point? Well, there isn't a console war! The market is big enough to support all the consoles, and indeed is doind so quite nicely. For the first time in 6 years we have some really competition between consoles- and that can only be a good thing for the gamer!
No doubt we'll see games and consoles getting cheaper, manufacturers like Sony and Microsoft putting more money to get a top list of excluive titles, and more money put into the market allowing it to further grow.
The futures bright.
Sonic
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