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Why is everyone still going on about this "console war"- the idea simply doesn't apply any more....
You see, in the past the market has always been so small that only one or two of the consoles could survive in a market that crammed consoles into it like sardines in a tin.
In the 8 and 16bit ages there were dozens of different consoles, yet only a few million gamers worldwide to buy them. Nintendo outsold all the other consoles put together, and only Sega and Nintendo cracked the Western market.
Moving on, between the 16 and 32bit eras, you saw consoles from the Jaguar to the 3DO appear- all of which failed.
The turning point in the industry was when the 32bit era really arrived with the Playstation. The market increased for a few million gamers worldwide to over a hundred million console gamers- mostly due to Sony's influence.
So, why then was the PS a complete runaway? Well, cimply because there was no viable competition to it- the Staurn was too pricey, and the N64 hit the market too late.
However, now we have a new type of market- hundreds of millions of gamers, and only 3 console- all of which are pretty good. As sales figures show, all 3 consoles are selling well enough to give them a big share in the market, with analysts predicting the PS2 taking 45% of the market, Xbox with 35% and the Gc with 20%.
So, my point? Well, there isn't a console war! The market is big enough to support all the consoles, and indeed is doind so quite nicely. For the first time in 6 years we have some really competition between consoles- and that can only be a good thing for the gamer!
No doubt we'll see games and consoles getting cheaper, manufacturers like Sony and Microsoft putting more money to get a top list of excluive titles, and more money put into the market allowing it to further grow.
The futures bright.
Sonic
You see, in the past the market has always been so small that only one or two of the consoles could survive in a market that crammed consoles into it like sardines in a tin.
In the 8 and 16bit ages there were dozens of different consoles, yet only a few million gamers worldwide to buy them. Nintendo outsold all the other consoles put together, and only Sega and Nintendo cracked the Western market.
Moving on, between the 16 and 32bit eras, you saw consoles from the Jaguar to the 3DO appear- all of which failed.
The turning point in the industry was when the 32bit era really arrived with the Playstation. The market increased for a few million gamers worldwide to over a hundred million console gamers- mostly due to Sony's influence.
So, why then was the PS a complete runaway? Well, cimply because there was no viable competition to it- the Staurn was too pricey, and the N64 hit the market too late.
However, now we have a new type of market- hundreds of millions of gamers, and only 3 console- all of which are pretty good. As sales figures show, all 3 consoles are selling well enough to give them a big share in the market, with analysts predicting the PS2 taking 45% of the market, Xbox with 35% and the Gc with 20%.
So, my point? Well, there isn't a console war! The market is big enough to support all the consoles, and indeed is doind so quite nicely. For the first time in 6 years we have some really competition between consoles- and that can only be a good thing for the gamer!
No doubt we'll see games and consoles getting cheaper, manufacturers like Sony and Microsoft putting more money to get a top list of excluive titles, and more money put into the market allowing it to further grow.
The futures bright.
Sonic
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Resi said:
"And the PS2 will only really get 45% of the gaming market because it's already been available for the last year or so, and many people already have them."
Add to that, the PS brand is extremely strong- 100millions Playstations have been sold worldwide!
"If they're gunna compare the PS2 with the 2 other consoles, in te so called 'Console War', then they should look at it's sales figures from the same time as the X-box and GameCube have been launched, from Spring-Summer onwards."
Oddly enough, the PS2 is still outselling both. Not suprising seeing as it has enough consoles to meet the demand, a strong brand name, and a huge list of games.
"You never know, we could see PS2 sales plummit, as everyone already has one..."
Well, there are only 15million PS2s out there (or something like that). Now, seeing as 100million PSX's were sold I don't see PS2 sales getting and slower soon!
Sonic
"And the PS2 will only really get 45% of the gaming market because it's already been available for the last year or so, and many people already have them."
Add to that, the PS brand is extremely strong- 100millions Playstations have been sold worldwide!
"If they're gunna compare the PS2 with the 2 other consoles, in te so called 'Console War', then they should look at it's sales figures from the same time as the X-box and GameCube have been launched, from Spring-Summer onwards."
Oddly enough, the PS2 is still outselling both. Not suprising seeing as it has enough consoles to meet the demand, a strong brand name, and a huge list of games.
"You never know, we could see PS2 sales plummit, as everyone already has one..."
Well, there are only 15million PS2s out there (or something like that). Now, seeing as 100million PSX's were sold I don't see PS2 sales getting and slower soon!
Sonic
As I said earler, I feel that the main reason the PSX was the clear winner at the top was due to piracy and imported games! Almost everyone I know who has a PSX has their's chipped and imported almost all of their games.
Sony made a big mistake not trying to put a stop to it, but they were probably happy to see the console selling so well.
And the PS2 will only really get 45% of the gaming market because it's already been available for the last year or so, and many people already have them. But still, PS2 owners may still go out and get other consoles, I've heard about Resi Evil fans getting GameCubes.
If they're gunna compare the PS2 with the 2 other consoles, in te so called 'Console War', then they should look at it's sales figures from the same time as the X-box and GameCube have been launched, from Spring-Summer onwards.
You never know, we could see PS2 sales plummit, as everyone already has one...
Sony made a big mistake not trying to put a stop to it, but they were probably happy to see the console selling so well.
And the PS2 will only really get 45% of the gaming market because it's already been available for the last year or so, and many people already have them. But still, PS2 owners may still go out and get other consoles, I've heard about Resi Evil fans getting GameCubes.
If they're gunna compare the PS2 with the 2 other consoles, in te so called 'Console War', then they should look at it's sales figures from the same time as the X-box and GameCube have been launched, from Spring-Summer onwards.
You never know, we could see PS2 sales plummit, as everyone already has one...
Back to this market share argument though, 20% is quite considerable for the amount of consoles sold. Besides, the most popular is not always going to be the best in everyone's eyes.
After all, all those below who have argued that Ninty isn't good because they have less of a market share obviously like Enrique Iglasias, after all it has the market share of the singles charts, so it must, therefore, be the best.
You see, different demographics and the fact that the PS2 has been out longer mean it will appeal to those wanting to play it safe, and as someone said, the casual gamer (who tends to like a quick game of anything that looks popular, no matter how good or bad it is) The army men games have only sold because casual gamers exist and they don't worry about quality of gaming at all.
That's not to say that the PS2 or the Xbox are bad consoles, just that they all appeal to different kinds of people, as Sonicrav so rightly pointed out. The point is that different people will buy each console, and as long as there are enough of each kind of person then there will be enough room for all three consoles. None of the consoles are better, if you look at the software on all of them there are must have titles on all, but they appeal to different people.
I loved the PS2 for its mech games, Gungriffon Blaze is one of my favorite games, but I also want the Gamecube because it has Rogue Leader, which I consider to be the best Star Wars game since X-wing on the PC. It will also have Mario, and I like that too. The Xbox appeals less to me, but I wouldn't say no to one as it has Project Gotham and Jet Set Radio Future.
After all, all those below who have argued that Ninty isn't good because they have less of a market share obviously like Enrique Iglasias, after all it has the market share of the singles charts, so it must, therefore, be the best.
You see, different demographics and the fact that the PS2 has been out longer mean it will appeal to those wanting to play it safe, and as someone said, the casual gamer (who tends to like a quick game of anything that looks popular, no matter how good or bad it is) The army men games have only sold because casual gamers exist and they don't worry about quality of gaming at all.
That's not to say that the PS2 or the Xbox are bad consoles, just that they all appeal to different kinds of people, as Sonicrav so rightly pointed out. The point is that different people will buy each console, and as long as there are enough of each kind of person then there will be enough room for all three consoles. None of the consoles are better, if you look at the software on all of them there are must have titles on all, but they appeal to different people.
I loved the PS2 for its mech games, Gungriffon Blaze is one of my favorite games, but I also want the Gamecube because it has Rogue Leader, which I consider to be the best Star Wars game since X-wing on the PC. It will also have Mario, and I like that too. The Xbox appeals less to me, but I wouldn't say no to one as it has Project Gotham and Jet Set Radio Future.
Yes, although I can't just dialup my computer and get sex at the click of a mouse. Erm...
Turbonutter wrote:
> Well, console wars are a fact of life round here. In fact, they're one of the
> only things that makes it interesting.
how about sex?
sonic
> Well, console wars are a fact of life round here. In fact, they're one of the
> only things that makes it interesting.
how about sex?
sonic
Well, console wars are a fact of life round here. In fact, they're one of the only things that makes it interesting.
El Burro wrote:
> you would never have guessed would you... (this really isn't sarcastic, however
> much it sounds)
too late to judge sarcasm... so I'll take your word for it
Sonic
> you would never have guessed would you... (this really isn't sarcastic, however
> much it sounds)
too late to judge sarcasm... so I'll take your word for it
Sonic
and console wars are in this topi somewhere...
Sonic
Sonic
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