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Sony's very first gaming console, as we all know, was the Playstation (PSX). It was a 32-bit machine, that also ran on unique, black-coloured CD's, unlike any other console. The SNES is one of the best 32-bit machines ever to be created, and it's Nintendo games ran on cartridges. Nintendo started with the use of cartridges for console games, and have since become very successfull. Sony have also grown in success, with their CD's, but should they have started off with plain old carts?? Have they moved into the latest tachnology too fast, meaning that they'll soon find that they've got no way of improving???
Nintendo's descision to stick with the good old plastic carts has helped them to continue profitting well. Even though the N64 didn't sell too well, and lost out to the PSX, Nintendo did gain several advantages over the electronics geniuses! One main gain was in the field of piracy. CD's (including Sony's) can easily be copied and sold ilegally around the world for a cheap price. But this cannot be done with carts!
Many Sony fans decided to get their PSX's 'chipped' for a small fee, so that they could get all the games they wanted for around £10 or less! Sony did not profit from the piracy and imports, and they did in fact begin to lose money! As many of their gamers preffered cheaper games to full-priced PAL versions, and the loyalty was lost.
The PS2 is Sony's latest attempt at a different console, and is their best shot at winning the 'console war' as the best 'next-generation console'. As far as we know, there is no way that the PS2 can be 'chipped' so that piracy can continue into the next-generation. But with technology these days, anything's possible!! But if the piracy issue does come back to haunt Sony again, this time on the PS2, it could all go wrong again for Sony!
But it wasn't all that bad for Sony. To play these games you'd need a console and controllers, so that meant money was coming in, even if the games weren't being brought! But by reducing the price to less than £100, Sony weren't doing themselves any favours. This meant that import-fans could get a cheap console ASWELL as cheap games!
If Sony had started with cartridges, like Nintendo and Sega, they'd have avoided piracy and be earning a lot more money. They'd also have been starting with basic software, meaning that they'd have a whole new world of technology to work with in the not too distant future! So, there are chances that they'll run out of ideas soon...
Could this mean that the PS3 will be their last attempt???
Or will they rush into the use of mini-DVD-discs (like the GC) or Mini Discs (MD's), and get stuck in a whole, miles behind the rest??? Only time will tell! I believe that Sony should've started with basic carts, you can get the same gaming-quality as in their CD's, and there'd be so much more to use in the future...
I think they should think very carefully about what their first hand-held console runs on!
Nintendo's descision to stick with the good old plastic carts has helped them to continue profitting well. Even though the N64 didn't sell too well, and lost out to the PSX, Nintendo did gain several advantages over the electronics geniuses! One main gain was in the field of piracy. CD's (including Sony's) can easily be copied and sold ilegally around the world for a cheap price. But this cannot be done with carts!
Many Sony fans decided to get their PSX's 'chipped' for a small fee, so that they could get all the games they wanted for around £10 or less! Sony did not profit from the piracy and imports, and they did in fact begin to lose money! As many of their gamers preffered cheaper games to full-priced PAL versions, and the loyalty was lost.
The PS2 is Sony's latest attempt at a different console, and is their best shot at winning the 'console war' as the best 'next-generation console'. As far as we know, there is no way that the PS2 can be 'chipped' so that piracy can continue into the next-generation. But with technology these days, anything's possible!! But if the piracy issue does come back to haunt Sony again, this time on the PS2, it could all go wrong again for Sony!
But it wasn't all that bad for Sony. To play these games you'd need a console and controllers, so that meant money was coming in, even if the games weren't being brought! But by reducing the price to less than £100, Sony weren't doing themselves any favours. This meant that import-fans could get a cheap console ASWELL as cheap games!
If Sony had started with cartridges, like Nintendo and Sega, they'd have avoided piracy and be earning a lot more money. They'd also have been starting with basic software, meaning that they'd have a whole new world of technology to work with in the not too distant future! So, there are chances that they'll run out of ideas soon...
Could this mean that the PS3 will be their last attempt???
Or will they rush into the use of mini-DVD-discs (like the GC) or Mini Discs (MD's), and get stuck in a whole, miles behind the rest??? Only time will tell! I believe that Sony should've started with basic carts, you can get the same gaming-quality as in their CD's, and there'd be so much more to use in the future...
I think they should think very carefully about what their first hand-held console runs on!
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I have to say that Sony made the right idea of going with the CD, it was the way forward and helped gaming get to where it is now.
Alot of your opinions are exactly that your own opinions which focus on the Nintendo side of things. Cartridges never stopped piracy, just slowed it down. Cartridges have a reduced capacity which means that the developer had to minimise certain aspects of the game to fit it onto the cartridge.
I think what we will see in the future will be holographic memory, the disks are similar to cartridges but with a huge storage capacity.
Alot of your opinions are exactly that your own opinions which focus on the Nintendo side of things. Cartridges never stopped piracy, just slowed it down. Cartridges have a reduced capacity which means that the developer had to minimise certain aspects of the game to fit it onto the cartridge.
I think what we will see in the future will be holographic memory, the disks are similar to cartridges but with a huge storage capacity.
So, if the N64's twice the power of the SNES, then how does 64 equal 16x2??? And you have to admit that Sony sold a whole load more due to the piracy!
Resevilfan wrote:
> Solskjær_24 wrote:
>The SNES is one of the best 32-bit machines ever
> to be created.
erm the Snes was 16-bit and i don't want to sound mean or
> anything but that's one of the dumbest things I've ever read. The playstation
> was so succesful BECAUSE of it's CD format, Developers had unlimited space, FMVs
> were brought to the console world with the use of V-CD, some even used real
> actors (resident evil,titan wars) and CD-soundtracks were a must, tomb
> raider,wipeout and about 90% of playstation games had an awesome soundtrack
> playing straight from the CD.
CDs were a revolution to gaming and I see DVDs
> building on what CDs started, Cartridges are expensive, chunky and from the
> developer's point of view aload of rubbish to handle today's games. As for
> piracy that has nothing to do with the format it's Sony's lack of attitude
> towards it ;-)
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Fair enough. :-)
> Solskjær_24 wrote:
>The SNES is one of the best 32-bit machines ever
> to be created.
erm the Snes was 16-bit and i don't want to sound mean or
> anything but that's one of the dumbest things I've ever read. The playstation
> was so succesful BECAUSE of it's CD format, Developers had unlimited space, FMVs
> were brought to the console world with the use of V-CD, some even used real
> actors (resident evil,titan wars) and CD-soundtracks were a must, tomb
> raider,wipeout and about 90% of playstation games had an awesome soundtrack
> playing straight from the CD.
CDs were a revolution to gaming and I see DVDs
> building on what CDs started, Cartridges are expensive, chunky and from the
> developer's point of view aload of rubbish to handle today's games. As for
> piracy that has nothing to do with the format it's Sony's lack of attitude
> towards it ;-)
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Fair enough. :-)
Solskjær_24 wrote:
>The SNES is one of the best 32-bit machines ever to be created.
erm the Snes was 16-bit and i don't want to sound mean or anything but that's one of the dumbest things I've ever read. The playstation was so succesful BECAUSE of it's CD format, Developers had unlimited space, FMVs were brought to the console world with the use of V-CD, some even used real actors (resident evil,titan wars) and CD-soundtracks were a must, tomb raider,wipeout and about 90% of playstation games had an awesome soundtrack playing straight from the CD.
CDs were a revolution to gaming and I see DVDs building on what CDs started, Cartridges are expensive, chunky and from the developer's point of view aload of rubbish to handle today's games. As for piracy that has nothing to do with the format it's Sony's lack of attitude towards it ;-)
>The SNES is one of the best 32-bit machines ever to be created.
erm the Snes was 16-bit and i don't want to sound mean or anything but that's one of the dumbest things I've ever read. The playstation was so succesful BECAUSE of it's CD format, Developers had unlimited space, FMVs were brought to the console world with the use of V-CD, some even used real actors (resident evil,titan wars) and CD-soundtracks were a must, tomb raider,wipeout and about 90% of playstation games had an awesome soundtrack playing straight from the CD.
CDs were a revolution to gaming and I see DVDs building on what CDs started, Cartridges are expensive, chunky and from the developer's point of view aload of rubbish to handle today's games. As for piracy that has nothing to do with the format it's Sony's lack of attitude towards it ;-)
Sorry about that, computer messed about etc
That'a a good topic, with lots of interesting points. However, when you said that the N64 couldn't be chipped, it was so much easier to download the roms for it, that way, you could play all the games on your PC for no cost whatsoever. Also, the PS2 has been able to be chipped for a long time, maybe it's because of the immenent release of the GC and X-box that this has come to light(marketing ploy buy Sony perhaps? Who knows?). Anyway, enough of that, long live the Super Nintendo!
That'a a good topic, with lots of interesting points. However, when you said that the N64 couldn't be chipped, it was so much easier to download the roms for it, that way, you could play all the games on your PC for no cost whatsoever. Also, the PS2 has been able to be chipped for a long time, maybe it's because of the immenent release of the GC and X-box that this has come to light(marketing ploy buy Sony perhaps? Who knows?). Anyway, enough of that, long live the Super Nintendo!
Well I'm not sure on whether Sony should have started with cartridges. It would have probably made a big change on gaming world today.
Ninty could have overpowered Sony if they decided to go for cartridges as Ninty were more well known and if they were both on cartridges then Ninty would have had the upper hand. Also if Sony hadn't gone for CDs then they would have charged more for the games so as not to lose money, just like Ninty.
It also could have made Ninty stay with cartridges and the GC could be a non-disk machine if Sony had used cartridges. Even if the PS2 back then had gone for CDs aftert the PS1 had cartridges then Ninty still might have kept with cartridges because they wouldn't know how much of a benifit CDs would be as they would be cheaper to make for, easier to make for and they would get some companies to join them that don't like the use of cartridges.
Also, imagine Sony were on cartridges these days and Ninty went to CDs before them. That would really spice up the Console Wars.
And then there would be Sega and Microsoft to deal with.....
:D Good post!
Ninty could have overpowered Sony if they decided to go for cartridges as Ninty were more well known and if they were both on cartridges then Ninty would have had the upper hand. Also if Sony hadn't gone for CDs then they would have charged more for the games so as not to lose money, just like Ninty.
It also could have made Ninty stay with cartridges and the GC could be a non-disk machine if Sony had used cartridges. Even if the PS2 back then had gone for CDs aftert the PS1 had cartridges then Ninty still might have kept with cartridges because they wouldn't know how much of a benifit CDs would be as they would be cheaper to make for, easier to make for and they would get some companies to join them that don't like the use of cartridges.
Also, imagine Sony were on cartridges these days and Ninty went to CDs before them. That would really spice up the Console Wars.
And then there would be Sega and Microsoft to deal with.....
:D Good post!
Sony's very first gaming console, as we all know, was the Playstation (PSX). It was a 32-bit machine, that also ran on unique, black-coloured CD's, unlike any other console. The SNES is one of the best 32-bit machines ever to be created, and it's Nintendo games ran on cartridges. Nintendo started with the use of cartridges for console games, and have since become very successfull. Sony have also grown in success, with their CD's, but should they have started off with plain old carts?? Have they moved into the latest tachnology too fast, meaning that they'll soon find that they've got no way of improving???
Nintendo's descision to stick with the good old plastic carts has helped them to continue profitting well. Even though the N64 didn't sell too well, and lost out to the PSX, Nintendo did gain several advantages over the electronics geniuses! One main gain was in the field of piracy. CD's (including Sony's) can easily be copied and sold ilegally around the world for a cheap price. But this cannot be done with carts!
Many Sony fans decided to get their PSX's 'chipped' for a small fee, so that they could get all the games they wanted for around £10 or less! Sony did not profit from the piracy and imports, and they did in fact begin to lose money! As many of their gamers preffered cheaper games to full-priced PAL versions, and the loyalty was lost.
The PS2 is Sony's latest attempt at a different console, and is their best shot at winning the 'console war' as the best 'next-generation console'. As far as we know, there is no way that the PS2 can be 'chipped' so that piracy can continue into the next-generation. But with technology these days, anything's possible!! But if the piracy issue does come back to haunt Sony again, this time on the PS2, it could all go wrong again for Sony!
But it wasn't all that bad for Sony. To play these games you'd need a console and controllers, so that meant money was coming in, even if the games weren't being brought! But by reducing the price to less than £100, Sony weren't doing themselves any favours. This meant that import-fans could get a cheap console ASWELL as cheap games!
If Sony had started with cartridges, like Nintendo and Sega, they'd have avoided piracy and be earning a lot more money. They'd also have been starting with basic software, meaning that they'd have a whole new world of technology to work with in the not too distant future! So, there are chances that they'll run out of ideas soon...
Could this mean that the PS3 will be their last attempt???
Or will they rush into the use of mini-DVD-discs (like the GC) or Mini Discs (MD's), and get stuck in a whole, miles behind the rest??? Only time will tell! I believe that Sony should've started with basic carts, you can get the same gaming-quality as in their CD's, and there'd be so much more to use in the future...
I think they should think very carefully about what their first hand-held console runs on!
Nintendo's descision to stick with the good old plastic carts has helped them to continue profitting well. Even though the N64 didn't sell too well, and lost out to the PSX, Nintendo did gain several advantages over the electronics geniuses! One main gain was in the field of piracy. CD's (including Sony's) can easily be copied and sold ilegally around the world for a cheap price. But this cannot be done with carts!
Many Sony fans decided to get their PSX's 'chipped' for a small fee, so that they could get all the games they wanted for around £10 or less! Sony did not profit from the piracy and imports, and they did in fact begin to lose money! As many of their gamers preffered cheaper games to full-priced PAL versions, and the loyalty was lost.
The PS2 is Sony's latest attempt at a different console, and is their best shot at winning the 'console war' as the best 'next-generation console'. As far as we know, there is no way that the PS2 can be 'chipped' so that piracy can continue into the next-generation. But with technology these days, anything's possible!! But if the piracy issue does come back to haunt Sony again, this time on the PS2, it could all go wrong again for Sony!
But it wasn't all that bad for Sony. To play these games you'd need a console and controllers, so that meant money was coming in, even if the games weren't being brought! But by reducing the price to less than £100, Sony weren't doing themselves any favours. This meant that import-fans could get a cheap console ASWELL as cheap games!
If Sony had started with cartridges, like Nintendo and Sega, they'd have avoided piracy and be earning a lot more money. They'd also have been starting with basic software, meaning that they'd have a whole new world of technology to work with in the not too distant future! So, there are chances that they'll run out of ideas soon...
Could this mean that the PS3 will be their last attempt???
Or will they rush into the use of mini-DVD-discs (like the GC) or Mini Discs (MD's), and get stuck in a whole, miles behind the rest??? Only time will tell! I believe that Sony should've started with basic carts, you can get the same gaming-quality as in their CD's, and there'd be so much more to use in the future...
I think they should think very carefully about what their first hand-held console runs on!
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