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Mon 28/01/02 at 22:16
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The Gamecube launch information was generally good news, the price was brilliant a mere £150 (and I thought my prediction was low of £160). The titles on offer from Day one of the Gamecube’s life include 20 games! These are as follows:

Wave Race: Blue Storm, Star Wars Rogue Leader Rogue Squadron II, Sonic Adventure 2: Battle, Super Monkey Ball, ISS2, ESPN Winter Sports, Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3, Spiderman, Tarzan Untamed, Batman Vengeance, Donald Duck Quack Attack, Crazy Taxi, Burnout, Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX, NHL Hitz, Gauntlet Dark Legacy, Universal Studios, Batman, Tetris World,
2002 FIFA World Cup,

A mere 3 weeks later see’s the release of two AAA titles, Resident Evil from Capcom (and unlike the Japanese we don’t have to wait 9 months) and Super Smash Brothers Melee from HAL.

But one piece of launch information that wasn’t so brilliant was the Gamecube release date. True May 3rd isn’t September but it isn’t early March either and for a Nintendo fan the thought of waiting 3 more months is not impossible but so damn hard. But that’s not the point; the Gamecube arrives towards the end of spring and has missed the most important opportunities such as the Easter market and Christmas.

This was a point raised with a conversation with Sonic Rav, he pointed out the Gamecube has appeared in Europe to late, that it should of reached the Christmas market and that the Gamecube should of tried to beat the X-box by appearing before it. But no? Was this date so late in an attempt to supply enough Gamecube’s to the European market? Remember the rumored 300,000 reports? That has jumped to 500,000 launch day, (One million in the launch period). Was it just a rumor or was the Gamecube delayed in order to supply enough consoles?

I doubt it in fact some might say the Gamecube has chosen an ideal time to appear. Lets take a closer look at the launch titles, in particular the launch titles that will appeal to the casual gamer. The World cup is round the corner; England under its new and highly improved management (Good old Sven) has a very promising outlook. So expect World Cup merchandise to sell like hot cakes and by looking at the launch titles I seem to spot FIFA 2002 Road to World Cup. This as a Gamecube launch title, and with the Gamecube launch situated very near to kick off for the World Cup, is a very clever ploy for the Big N as the FIFA game may and probably will sell a few Gamecube’s.

The movie that is set to beat Ali and James Bond 20 this year is none other than George Lucas’s Star Wars Episode: II Attack of the Clones. Again the Film has a UK launch near the launch of Nintendo’s Gamecube, and hang on what is that in the launch line up? Why isn’t it a Star Wars title, and exclusive one at that! Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader may concentrate on the original Star Wars Trilogy rather than Episode 1 or 2 but this will undoubtedly sell a bucket load of Gamecube’s. The launch of the second movie will mean all the Star Wars nuts (and that’s a hell of a lot of people) will be in the element and the sight of what is one of the best Star Wars game ever might cause many of them to snap up a copy as well.

Resident Evil has a UK launch of May 24th (and we are still waiting for an American release date); May 24th is also very near the release of the Resident Evil movie. And the opportunity to play the first ever Resident Evil title (that also looks like a movie) will be a very attractive prospect to movie goers. So is this a cunning ploy from the Big N? Of course it is, the opportunity to cash in on three European events and films is an opportunity not to be missed and two of the three happen to be exclusive to the Gamecube (Resident Evil and Star Wars).

Another thing about the European launch is the high possibility of a Gamecube – Gameboy Advance link-up from day one. Sonic Advance would have already been released and Sonic Adventure 2: Battle is also a Gamecube launch title and of course the two link together. The GBA’s life will feature many new and excellent titles in the coming months, Super Mario Advance 2, the return of Super Mario World, the world’s greatest game will be released and the GBA’s sales will rocket. The launch of a brand new 2D Sonic Adventure will do the same and those who have played the Sonic and Mario game and loved it (which judging on the praise they are both enjoying will be a hell of a lot of people) will know that 3D updates of them both are only avalible on the Gamecube. The Sonic link-up will also attract GBA owners to the Gamecube.

So after reading that do you believe the Gamecube’s date is too late? Or do you believe the GBA’s new titles, the Resident Evil game coinciding with the movie, as does the Star Wars one. Make the Gamecube’s release a well-timed one? Expect the Sonic GBA to Gamecube link up, The Resident Evil game, the Star Wars title and FIFA, road to world cup to be advertised fully as we approach the Gamecube’s release and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Rogue Leader shown prior to the Star Wars film nor would I be shocked to see Resident Evil before the film of the same name. I believe Nintendo have placed the Gamecube release at the right time so it can cash in.

Here’s to the future.

Dringo.
Wed 30/01/02 at 15:39
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This win should last until the Gamecube games turn up in the GC catalogue.

As for the Starwars subject, I don't think that people will be so disappointed by this one because most aren't really so hyped.

What it all depends on whether it has a major space battle (Episode 1 lacked that) or whether it's more Obi-wan Jedi with light sabre.

That might make the difference between people plumbing for Xbox's Obi Wan or Gamecube's Rogue Leader.
I doubt that Naboo Starfighters will be used (as it's not set on Naboo).

Perhaps they use X-wings on corruscant...
Wed 30/01/02 at 09:45
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"not dead"
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Strafex wrote:
> There is one flaw though.

Rogue Leader bears little resemblence to Attack of
> the Clones.

Perhaps the name "Starwars" being on both products will
> be enough for a connection.

Ah, but it's inevitable that people will leave the cinema saying that the original trilogy was better, and they'd long to play Rogue Leader, and relive their dreams as kids, rather than play a game based on the new movie. No matter how good it is, people in general will prefer the original.
Tue 29/01/02 at 22:07
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Erm i did actually point that out.
Tue 29/01/02 at 13:40
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There is one flaw though.

Rogue Leader bears little resemblence to Attack of the Clones.

Perhaps the name "Starwars" being on both products will be enough for a connection.
Tue 29/01/02 at 10:22
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Posts: 5,626
The £150 price tag is a wonderful thing. Alot more casual gamers may decide to buy one instead of an X-Box.

The release of games is good too, with 20 games on launch its better than what the N64. Another good thing that helps a console get into the market is the amount of games that are coming out.

The PS2 had a alright launch with 4 games that were good to ok, and the dozens of rubbish. But then not many good games came out, well not for me. I waited 4 months to buy my next PS2 game after the launch.

But Nintendo have got it pretty right. You pick up the GC on May 3rd and get to play 3 or 4 games that you like. Then a few weeks later you have Resident Evil, Smash Brothers Melee. And then about 5-6 weeks after the launch where the games you first bought are not being played as much, you can get Pikmin to play on.

Overall I think the GC has a brillant start its life. I am not getting a launch machine as I have pre-ordered an X-Box but once Uni is finished for the summer, i'll get a nice Black GC and Resident Evil.
Tue 29/01/02 at 09:43
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Well, when I was saying the release was too late, I did so for the following reasons:

1) 90% of console sales occur at Christmas... so by launching after Christmas there is little point having such a huge launch number of consoles- they just won't sell!

2) I was assuming the cost of the console was going to be £200- which would have made it far harder to compete with the PS2- with many buying the latter console due to the DVD playback and brand name.


However, my fears have been averted. By making the console £150 and by making it LOOK cute and kiddy, Nintendo has acheived its goals- it can corner off the young market (after all, people won't have a problem buying a £150 "toy" for their kids), it already has the support oif the hardcore gamers, and the low price allows it to expand into the market of intelligent gamers who may think about buying a second console in addition to their PS2s...

So, I personally think that Nintendo are absolutely on-the-ball with the console's launch- targetting their audience perfectly.

Oh, and of course, games like Resident Evil will make the game appeal to more mainstreem 20-something gamers... especially seeing as it'll be coming out at the same time as the film (Marketting NintyUK!). So Ninty would win back some of the massmarket.

The only thing I am still annoyed at is the lack of truely revolutionary classic games. With Nintendo give games like Starfox, Metroid and Smash Bros to outside second party developers, you'd think that they'd have enough time to make a massive launch game- like Mario 64 on the N64. But instead they've given us just Luigi's Mansion and Pikmin. I'm sure if they'd made a truely quality launch game (ie, classic status), then it would have shifted far more units- remember what the Zelda OOT did for N64 sales!

Sonic
Mon 28/01/02 at 22:16
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Posts: 18,185
The Gamecube launch information was generally good news, the price was brilliant a mere £150 (and I thought my prediction was low of £160). The titles on offer from Day one of the Gamecube’s life include 20 games! These are as follows:

Wave Race: Blue Storm, Star Wars Rogue Leader Rogue Squadron II, Sonic Adventure 2: Battle, Super Monkey Ball, ISS2, ESPN Winter Sports, Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3, Spiderman, Tarzan Untamed, Batman Vengeance, Donald Duck Quack Attack, Crazy Taxi, Burnout, Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX, NHL Hitz, Gauntlet Dark Legacy, Universal Studios, Batman, Tetris World,
2002 FIFA World Cup,

A mere 3 weeks later see’s the release of two AAA titles, Resident Evil from Capcom (and unlike the Japanese we don’t have to wait 9 months) and Super Smash Brothers Melee from HAL.

But one piece of launch information that wasn’t so brilliant was the Gamecube release date. True May 3rd isn’t September but it isn’t early March either and for a Nintendo fan the thought of waiting 3 more months is not impossible but so damn hard. But that’s not the point; the Gamecube arrives towards the end of spring and has missed the most important opportunities such as the Easter market and Christmas.

This was a point raised with a conversation with Sonic Rav, he pointed out the Gamecube has appeared in Europe to late, that it should of reached the Christmas market and that the Gamecube should of tried to beat the X-box by appearing before it. But no? Was this date so late in an attempt to supply enough Gamecube’s to the European market? Remember the rumored 300,000 reports? That has jumped to 500,000 launch day, (One million in the launch period). Was it just a rumor or was the Gamecube delayed in order to supply enough consoles?

I doubt it in fact some might say the Gamecube has chosen an ideal time to appear. Lets take a closer look at the launch titles, in particular the launch titles that will appeal to the casual gamer. The World cup is round the corner; England under its new and highly improved management (Good old Sven) has a very promising outlook. So expect World Cup merchandise to sell like hot cakes and by looking at the launch titles I seem to spot FIFA 2002 Road to World Cup. This as a Gamecube launch title, and with the Gamecube launch situated very near to kick off for the World Cup, is a very clever ploy for the Big N as the FIFA game may and probably will sell a few Gamecube’s.

The movie that is set to beat Ali and James Bond 20 this year is none other than George Lucas’s Star Wars Episode: II Attack of the Clones. Again the Film has a UK launch near the launch of Nintendo’s Gamecube, and hang on what is that in the launch line up? Why isn’t it a Star Wars title, and exclusive one at that! Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader may concentrate on the original Star Wars Trilogy rather than Episode 1 or 2 but this will undoubtedly sell a bucket load of Gamecube’s. The launch of the second movie will mean all the Star Wars nuts (and that’s a hell of a lot of people) will be in the element and the sight of what is one of the best Star Wars game ever might cause many of them to snap up a copy as well.

Resident Evil has a UK launch of May 24th (and we are still waiting for an American release date); May 24th is also very near the release of the Resident Evil movie. And the opportunity to play the first ever Resident Evil title (that also looks like a movie) will be a very attractive prospect to movie goers. So is this a cunning ploy from the Big N? Of course it is, the opportunity to cash in on three European events and films is an opportunity not to be missed and two of the three happen to be exclusive to the Gamecube (Resident Evil and Star Wars).

Another thing about the European launch is the high possibility of a Gamecube – Gameboy Advance link-up from day one. Sonic Advance would have already been released and Sonic Adventure 2: Battle is also a Gamecube launch title and of course the two link together. The GBA’s life will feature many new and excellent titles in the coming months, Super Mario Advance 2, the return of Super Mario World, the world’s greatest game will be released and the GBA’s sales will rocket. The launch of a brand new 2D Sonic Adventure will do the same and those who have played the Sonic and Mario game and loved it (which judging on the praise they are both enjoying will be a hell of a lot of people) will know that 3D updates of them both are only avalible on the Gamecube. The Sonic link-up will also attract GBA owners to the Gamecube.

So after reading that do you believe the Gamecube’s date is too late? Or do you believe the GBA’s new titles, the Resident Evil game coinciding with the movie, as does the Star Wars one. Make the Gamecube’s release a well-timed one? Expect the Sonic GBA to Gamecube link up, The Resident Evil game, the Star Wars title and FIFA, road to world cup to be advertised fully as we approach the Gamecube’s release and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Rogue Leader shown prior to the Star Wars film nor would I be shocked to see Resident Evil before the film of the same name. I believe Nintendo have placed the Gamecube release at the right time so it can cash in.

Here’s to the future.

Dringo.

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