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"The Jamie Carragher Incident."

Recently there has been a sharp rise in the amount of missiles & projectiles thrown onto the pitch. Before the Arsenal v Liverpool game, we saw Les Ferdinand nearly hit by a bottle in the Worthington Cup game against Chelsea, and it's happened numerous times before that as well.

I'm a Liverpool supporter, but I did think the ref was right to send off Jamie Carragher.
But, & pardon the pun, this debate is a two sided coin.

Side 1: His (well paid) job is to play football, if a teacher lashed out at a badly behaved pupil what would happen to the teacher, suspension? The sack? Possibly even prison?
Part of a footballers money is to show discipline & restraint, whether it be items thrown or racial abuse etc, so any physical action (like Eric Cantona) is totally wrong.
Liverpool could have gone on to win the match with 11 players v 9 players, who knows (although they wouldn't have deserved it.)
Jamie knows he was wrong, and has since apologised to players, fans, etc, but most of all, he let himself down in the heat of the moment.


Side 2: We shouldn't be so quick to judge people, because for anyone who has seen live football or just on t.v, all players get a hell of a lot stick from rival (so called) supporters, so many of us, in his shoes (boots) might have reacted in the same way.
Footballers are there to provide entertainment, and should feel safe in their workplace, without the constant threat of serious injury (i.e blindness) from a moron who throws items onto the playing area.
Clubs need to take swift & harsh action against any guilty hooligans, so the problem is sorted out before someone gets hurt. Maybe even impose fines on clubs or deduct them league points if any of their fans are guilty of missile throwing.
What if one day, God forbid, a player is blinded by a coin or knocked unconscious by a bottle? It could have far reaching implications for football. Players could go on strike until better safety features, such as plastic screens are implemented into stadiums.
Perhaps clubs could introduce/encourage a scheme where-by fans can report violent or excessively abusive fans.
Like every other football fan, I shout at the t.v when my team doesn't perform, but if i was in the stadium, I would never contemplate throwing things at players and it's a shame that some people think that this is acceptable behaviour.
I'm sure that many footballers have wanted to do what Jamie did for all the times they have suffered in similar incidents, but have managed to control their behaviour. It was only a matter of time till a player reacted in this way.

So, Carragher is guilty, but the coin-throwing idiots should take the majority of the blame.

I'd like to hear other people's (unbiased) views on the issue.

Thanks.

Solskjær_24 wrote:
> -Of course not! Ljungberg signed as a central player, and
> has been forced out-wide cuz he can't get a game in the
> middle!

He's doing pretty well there though.


> -Why would I want to??? After all, you can still
> here "BORING, BORING ARSENAL!!" at today's matches!

That's usually the Arsenal fans taking the p**s. If you still think Arsenal are boring, you're either blind, or an idiot. "Boring" is one thing no-one can justifiably call Arsenal these days.


> I HATE ARSENAL!!!!!

Then we're even - I hate your bunch of holier-than-thou scum, too.

WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> Solskjær_24 wrote:

and don't have/need any great wide players

"So you don't rate Pires, Ljundberg and co then?"

-Of course not! Ljungberg signed as a central player, and has been forced out-wide cuz he can't get a game in the middle!


> Palying centrally and
> boringly

"Haven't seen them play for the last few years then, have you."

-Why would I want to??? After all, you can still here "BORING, BORING ARSENAL!!" at today's matches!


"You're not very bright really, are you."

-Well, i'm not a monster from Wookie Hole Caves! And I may not be an intelectual, but I know one thing....I HATE ARSENAL!!!!!

Solskjær_24 wrote:
> they have an unfair advantage playing on such a limited size

It's within regulation sizes, and is small due to the surrounding houses.


> and is the only way they'll ever win anything and why
> they win many home games!!

Which is why our away record is better than our home record this season.


> The truth is...they're not a great team

So what's it like to be regularly beaten by an average team then?

> and don't have/need any great wide players

So you don't rate Pires, Ljundberg and co then?


> Palying centrally and boringly

Haven't seen them play for the last few years then, have you.


> forcing other teams into uncomfortable positions

I thought that was one of the main aims of competitive football.


You're not very bright really, are you.

Going back to Ortega's point about Arsenal's pitch size, I feel that they have an unfair advantage playing on such a limited size, and is the only way they'll ever win anything and why they win many home games!!
The truth is...they're not a great team, and don't have/need any great wide players. And all wide players seem to have to cut inside anyway, they must love away games, where they can exploit the wings!
Palying centrally and boringly, forcing other teams into uncomfortable positions, is the only way they feel they can ever win, and is why they still do it, and have never been in any real rush to leave Highbury!! DAMN CHEATERS!!!

SAME OLD ARSENAL, ALWAYS CHEATING!!

FANS will - the yobs like those who threw the coins won't.

WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> Yeah, but lets face it - Les Ferdinand ain't gonna feel anything that hits him
> in the head...

;-p

He gets knocked unconscious almost every game doesn't he when he flies in head first!

I laughed when i heard that police were going to question Arsenal fans about Jamie Carragher's actions. I'm sure they'd give a fair and unbiased account of the incident!

Yeah, but lets face it - Les Ferdinand ain't gonna feel anything that hits him in the head...

;-p

I find it quite amusing that so far four people have had their stories printed in the tabloid press, claiming they were hit by the Carragher coin. I mean one, okay, and maybe it would bounce off that guys head and hit someone else, but four? Ridiculous. Anyone could come forward and say 'I was hit by that maniac's coin' and get a huge payload.

Frankly, I'm content that he was sent off and should be charged, but it was about time someone brought the coin throwing to the forefront of media attention. Remember the Spurs-Chelsea first round semi-final? Someone threw a full bottle of beer at Les Ferdinand and it missed him by inches. It's insanity gone mad.

Personally I thought the throw was a bit girly. Watch a replay. Rubbish throw.

He shouldn't have done it, and deserved to be sent off.

I'm all for gun-turrets in the stands, to shoot down any such morons that throw things at the players. The world would be a better place without them.