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Recently there has been a sharp rise in the amount of missiles & projectiles thrown onto the pitch. Before the Arsenal v Liverpool game, we saw Les Ferdinand nearly hit by a bottle in the Worthington Cup game against Chelsea, and it's happened numerous times before that as well.
I'm a Liverpool supporter, but I did think the ref was right to send off Jamie Carragher.
But, & pardon the pun, this debate is a two sided coin.
Side 1: His (well paid) job is to play football, if a teacher lashed out at a badly behaved pupil what would happen to the teacher, suspension? The sack? Possibly even prison?
Part of a footballers money is to show discipline & restraint, whether it be items thrown or racial abuse etc, so any physical action (like Eric Cantona) is totally wrong.
Liverpool could have gone on to win the match with 11 players v 9 players, who knows (although they wouldn't have deserved it.)
Jamie knows he was wrong, and has since apologised to players, fans, etc, but most of all, he let himself down in the heat of the moment.
Side 2: We shouldn't be so quick to judge people, because for anyone who has seen live football or just on t.v, all players get a hell of a lot stick from rival (so called) supporters, so many of us, in his shoes (boots) might have reacted in the same way.
Footballers are there to provide entertainment, and should feel safe in their workplace, without the constant threat of serious injury (i.e blindness) from a moron who throws items onto the playing area.
Clubs need to take swift & harsh action against any guilty hooligans, so the problem is sorted out before someone gets hurt. Maybe even impose fines on clubs or deduct them league points if any of their fans are guilty of missile throwing.
What if one day, God forbid, a player is blinded by a coin or knocked unconscious by a bottle? It could have far reaching implications for football. Players could go on strike until better safety features, such as plastic screens are implemented into stadiums.
Perhaps clubs could introduce/encourage a scheme where-by fans can report violent or excessively abusive fans.
Like every other football fan, I shout at the t.v when my team doesn't perform, but if i was in the stadium, I would never contemplate throwing things at players and it's a shame that some people think that this is acceptable behaviour.
I'm sure that many footballers have wanted to do what Jamie did for all the times they have suffered in similar incidents, but have managed to control their behaviour. It was only a matter of time till a player reacted in this way.
So, Carragher is guilty, but the coin-throwing idiots should take the majority of the blame.
I'd like to hear other people's (unbiased) views on the issue.
Thanks.
I'm a Liverpool supporter, but I did think the ref was right to send off Jamie Carragher.
But, & pardon the pun, this debate is a two sided coin.
Side 1: His (well paid) job is to play football, if a teacher lashed out at a badly behaved pupil what would happen to the teacher, suspension? The sack? Possibly even prison?
Part of a footballers money is to show discipline & restraint, whether it be items thrown or racial abuse etc, so any physical action (like Eric Cantona) is totally wrong.
Liverpool could have gone on to win the match with 11 players v 9 players, who knows (although they wouldn't have deserved it.)
Jamie knows he was wrong, and has since apologised to players, fans, etc, but most of all, he let himself down in the heat of the moment.
Side 2: We shouldn't be so quick to judge people, because for anyone who has seen live football or just on t.v, all players get a hell of a lot stick from rival (so called) supporters, so many of us, in his shoes (boots) might have reacted in the same way.
Footballers are there to provide entertainment, and should feel safe in their workplace, without the constant threat of serious injury (i.e blindness) from a moron who throws items onto the playing area.
Clubs need to take swift & harsh action against any guilty hooligans, so the problem is sorted out before someone gets hurt. Maybe even impose fines on clubs or deduct them league points if any of their fans are guilty of missile throwing.
What if one day, God forbid, a player is blinded by a coin or knocked unconscious by a bottle? It could have far reaching implications for football. Players could go on strike until better safety features, such as plastic screens are implemented into stadiums.
Perhaps clubs could introduce/encourage a scheme where-by fans can report violent or excessively abusive fans.
Like every other football fan, I shout at the t.v when my team doesn't perform, but if i was in the stadium, I would never contemplate throwing things at players and it's a shame that some people think that this is acceptable behaviour.
I'm sure that many footballers have wanted to do what Jamie did for all the times they have suffered in similar incidents, but have managed to control their behaviour. It was only a matter of time till a player reacted in this way.
So, Carragher is guilty, but the coin-throwing idiots should take the majority of the blame.
I'd like to hear other people's (unbiased) views on the issue.
Thanks.
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Hmmm, Interesting...
Whats your problem with Foreigners man?
Whats your problem with Foreigners man?
Yes, they are very pretty and colourful.
I like rainbows, but not the rain required to create them. :-)
I like rainbows, but not the rain required to create them. :-)
Your bias, ignorance and pathetic drivel astound me.
Beckham's on less than £30k a week. And any rumours of him wanting £150k are rediculous!! After all, he's not a money grabbing traitor like Sol Campbell is!!
Face it, no-one would leave the club he loves to go and join their closest rivals, not even for all the money in the world!!
Face it, no-one would leave the club he loves to go and join their closest rivals, not even for all the money in the world!!
WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> Solskjær_24 wrote:
> Just face it Wookiee, if Arsenal didn't even have
> half of their current flock of
> 'johnny-foreigners'
"Have you looked at
> your first-choice squad recently?"
-Yes, and against Bolton we only had 5 non-Brits start, and 1 came off the bench to replace another! That's better than what I can say for Arsenal!! Stuart Taylor/Richard Wright only plays cuz Manninger hates you and Seaman's old and injured!
"How much did you pay for Veron and Van
> Man?"
-We payed...between £45-50m for the 2 and van the man has proven QUALITY, even if Veron hasn't!! And we could soon get back the cash from a £30m+ sale! We also got British goalkeeper Roy Carrol for £2m. When's the last time Arsenal played more than one outfield Englishman - not League Cup???
"Eriksson has done more for England than the previous 2 or 3 English
> managers. Even United don't have an English manager."
-He may have possibly done well but it's not all down to him! All he does is chooses the players and tells them roughly what to do - and for some reason we have to worship him???? - 'KOFF!!! And Fergie's a jock, that's BRITTISH you know!!
Who gets whooped by
> Chelsea and Liverpool?
Who beats Chelsea and Liverpool?
Anyone on a lucky steak, when Owen's not playing and both sides have their problems! - can't speak English, have no manager...
"Arsenal are not
> like Chelsea in the slightest - they neither spend nor pay anywhere near as much
> as Chelsea - the reason we have actually missed out on foreigners that United
> and Liverpool have signed."
-You only miss out cuz you don't put the effort in, cuz they're not French!!
You talk out of yours.
-I could say the same to you and all other Arsenal fans!!
Ha! Vieira and Henry the best in the world!!! - LOL!!
> Solskjær_24 wrote:
> Just face it Wookiee, if Arsenal didn't even have
> half of their current flock of
> 'johnny-foreigners'
"Have you looked at
> your first-choice squad recently?"
-Yes, and against Bolton we only had 5 non-Brits start, and 1 came off the bench to replace another! That's better than what I can say for Arsenal!! Stuart Taylor/Richard Wright only plays cuz Manninger hates you and Seaman's old and injured!
"How much did you pay for Veron and Van
> Man?"
-We payed...between £45-50m for the 2 and van the man has proven QUALITY, even if Veron hasn't!! And we could soon get back the cash from a £30m+ sale! We also got British goalkeeper Roy Carrol for £2m. When's the last time Arsenal played more than one outfield Englishman - not League Cup???
"Eriksson has done more for England than the previous 2 or 3 English
> managers. Even United don't have an English manager."
-He may have possibly done well but it's not all down to him! All he does is chooses the players and tells them roughly what to do - and for some reason we have to worship him???? - 'KOFF!!! And Fergie's a jock, that's BRITTISH you know!!
Who gets whooped by
> Chelsea and Liverpool?
Who beats Chelsea and Liverpool?
Anyone on a lucky steak, when Owen's not playing and both sides have their problems! - can't speak English, have no manager...
"Arsenal are not
> like Chelsea in the slightest - they neither spend nor pay anywhere near as much
> as Chelsea - the reason we have actually missed out on foreigners that United
> and Liverpool have signed."
-You only miss out cuz you don't put the effort in, cuz they're not French!!
You talk out of yours.
-I could say the same to you and all other Arsenal fans!!
Ha! Vieira and Henry the best in the world!!! - LOL!!
And speaking of 'spending big'... how much are you paying Beckham per week?
Solskjær_24 wrote:
> Just face it Wookiee, if A**enal didn't even have half of their current flock of
> 'johnny-foreigners'
Have you looked at your first-choice squad recently?
How much did you pay for Veron and Van Man?
Eriksson has done more for England than the previous 2 or 3 English managers. Even United don't have an English manager.
Who gets whooped by Chelsea and Liverpool?
Who beats Chelsea and Liverpool?
A**enal are not like Chelsea in the slightest - they neither spend nor pay anywhere near as much as Chelsea - the reason we have actually missed out on foreigners that United and Liverpool have signed.
I support the A**e. You talk out of yours.
> Just face it Wookiee, if A**enal didn't even have half of their current flock of
> 'johnny-foreigners'
Have you looked at your first-choice squad recently?
How much did you pay for Veron and Van Man?
Eriksson has done more for England than the previous 2 or 3 English managers. Even United don't have an English manager.
Who gets whooped by Chelsea and Liverpool?
Who beats Chelsea and Liverpool?
A**enal are not like Chelsea in the slightest - they neither spend nor pay anywhere near as much as Chelsea - the reason we have actually missed out on foreigners that United and Liverpool have signed.
I support the A**e. You talk out of yours.
Just face it Wookiee, if Arsenal didn't even have half of their current flock of 'johnny-foreigners', they wouldn't have achieved anything even close to what they have achieved now (nothing, lol!)! They rely on a foreign influence, just like England are wrongly doing with Eriksson. Where as teams like United ('The Treble' winners) and Liverpool (the 'treble??' winners) rely on a lot more home grown players, and bring a lot more through from the youth ranks, and have proven to be more successfull then the a**e!
Arsenal are like Chelsea, spend big on several players to build they're squad, when all they have to do is look down to the reserves and realise they already have a big squad! After all, you can't buy success, and teams like Arsenal and Chelsea have proven that to the rest of us!!
Cheers guys, merci beaucoup, or muchos gracias seniors!
Arsenal are like Chelsea, spend big on several players to build they're squad, when all they have to do is look down to the reserves and realise they already have a big squad! After all, you can't buy success, and teams like Arsenal and Chelsea have proven that to the rest of us!!
Cheers guys, merci beaucoup, or muchos gracias seniors!
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