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Looking at the market in Japan you will see PS2 in first place with Nintendo in last, in America we have in order of success PS2-X-box-GC. So this so called saviour of the game industry is well failing...
But lets for a moment ignore the fact Nintendo only control a small proportion of the market and look at why the Gamecube is a success. I never expected Nintendo to finally crush their rivals just yet, no the best Nintendo could hope for was to catch up... and thats exactly what is happening. The Gamecube stormed America, didn't fair as well as the X-box launch but much better than the PS2 launch and although they claim the X-box won Nintendo didn't lose either.
In Japan, despite the slow start, Nintendo have now got the sales it deserves, Number one at Christmas was Super Smash Brothers Melee! Damn right too, but another measure of Nintendo's success is the Gameboy Advance. This wonder handheld is so above the PS2, X-box and Gamecube it is almost funny. It will outsell all three and will rule the console market for years to come.
The conectivitiy between it and the Gamecube makes both systems seem like two halves of the same console. Number two in the Japanese Christmas list was Super Mario Advance 2 (Mario World, the greatest game ever with a few extras). The Fact is a 10 year old game beat everything Sony had to offer, Smash Brothers a title that appeared so very early in the Gamecube's life, beat every title Sony had to offer a console that has been around in that country for over a year and a half, it just shows that the Gamecube can meet Sony's standards only a few months after launch while it took Sony a year.
Measure of success shouldn't be judged on sales, the PS2 has a large user base as it has been out for a very long time but that doesn't mean the Gamecube is better. And now analyst predict Nintendo will have a 30% hold on the market compared with the N64's 22%. Lets face it the high increase in third party support from Capcom, Namco, Acclaim etc... will propell Nintendo to new gaming heights.
Here's to the future
Dringo.
But lets for a moment ignore the fact Nintendo only control a small proportion of the market and look at why the Gamecube is a success. I never expected Nintendo to finally crush their rivals just yet, no the best Nintendo could hope for was to catch up... and thats exactly what is happening. The Gamecube stormed America, didn't fair as well as the X-box launch but much better than the PS2 launch and although they claim the X-box won Nintendo didn't lose either.
In Japan, despite the slow start, Nintendo have now got the sales it deserves, Number one at Christmas was Super Smash Brothers Melee! Damn right too, but another measure of Nintendo's success is the Gameboy Advance. This wonder handheld is so above the PS2, X-box and Gamecube it is almost funny. It will outsell all three and will rule the console market for years to come.
The conectivitiy between it and the Gamecube makes both systems seem like two halves of the same console. Number two in the Japanese Christmas list was Super Mario Advance 2 (Mario World, the greatest game ever with a few extras). The Fact is a 10 year old game beat everything Sony had to offer, Smash Brothers a title that appeared so very early in the Gamecube's life, beat every title Sony had to offer a console that has been around in that country for over a year and a half, it just shows that the Gamecube can meet Sony's standards only a few months after launch while it took Sony a year.
Measure of success shouldn't be judged on sales, the PS2 has a large user base as it has been out for a very long time but that doesn't mean the Gamecube is better. And now analyst predict Nintendo will have a 30% hold on the market compared with the N64's 22%. Lets face it the high increase in third party support from Capcom, Namco, Acclaim etc... will propell Nintendo to new gaming heights.
Here's to the future
Dringo.
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Cooky wrote:
erm... Gamecube sold more than X-box at launch matey!
:)
Actually, it depends on the figures you use... the Xbox sold FAR more games! However, by Xmas, the sales were:
Gamecube: 1.3million console, with 1.9games per console
Xbox : 1.5million console, with 2.4 games per console.
Now, seeing as the Xbox costs more, it's odd that it had a higher games ration than the GC- maybe a sign of the weak GC launch games?
sonic
erm... Gamecube sold more than X-box at launch matey!
:)
Actually, it depends on the figures you use... the Xbox sold FAR more games! However, by Xmas, the sales were:
Gamecube: 1.3million console, with 1.9games per console
Xbox : 1.5million console, with 2.4 games per console.
Now, seeing as the Xbox costs more, it's odd that it had a higher games ration than the GC- maybe a sign of the weak GC launch games?
sonic
Cooky wrote:
erm... Gamecube sold more than X-box at launch matey!
Indeed, but after this initial launch period, X-Box kind of 'over took' in the sales department and has sold more units than Gamecube in the US to this day.
erm... Gamecube sold more than X-box at launch matey!
Indeed, but after this initial launch period, X-Box kind of 'over took' in the sales department and has sold more units than Gamecube in the US to this day.
>> didn't fair as well as the X-box launch but much better than the PS2 launch and although they claim the X-box won Nintendo didn't lose either.
erm... Gamecube sold more than X-box at launch matey!
:)
erm... Gamecube sold more than X-box at launch matey!
:)
I think we have a recipe for success here Dringo... With the additional third party support, Nintendo wanting to get tiles out quicker, and the number of ports we are seeing of some of the better PS2 games GC will be something of a super console...
I am just hoping to God that the 'short and sweet' policy won't effect Mario or Zelda...
I am just hoping to God that the 'short and sweet' policy won't effect Mario or Zelda...
Looking at the market in Japan you will see PS2 in first place with Nintendo in last, in America we have in order of success PS2-X-box-GC. So this so called saviour of the game industry is well failing...
But lets for a moment ignore the fact Nintendo only control a small proportion of the market and look at why the Gamecube is a success. I never expected Nintendo to finally crush their rivals just yet, no the best Nintendo could hope for was to catch up... and thats exactly what is happening. The Gamecube stormed America, didn't fair as well as the X-box launch but much better than the PS2 launch and although they claim the X-box won Nintendo didn't lose either.
In Japan, despite the slow start, Nintendo have now got the sales it deserves, Number one at Christmas was Super Smash Brothers Melee! Damn right too, but another measure of Nintendo's success is the Gameboy Advance. This wonder handheld is so above the PS2, X-box and Gamecube it is almost funny. It will outsell all three and will rule the console market for years to come.
The conectivitiy between it and the Gamecube makes both systems seem like two halves of the same console. Number two in the Japanese Christmas list was Super Mario Advance 2 (Mario World, the greatest game ever with a few extras). The Fact is a 10 year old game beat everything Sony had to offer, Smash Brothers a title that appeared so very early in the Gamecube's life, beat every title Sony had to offer a console that has been around in that country for over a year and a half, it just shows that the Gamecube can meet Sony's standards only a few months after launch while it took Sony a year.
Measure of success shouldn't be judged on sales, the PS2 has a large user base as it has been out for a very long time but that doesn't mean the Gamecube is better. And now analyst predict Nintendo will have a 30% hold on the market compared with the N64's 22%. Lets face it the high increase in third party support from Capcom, Namco, Acclaim etc... will propell Nintendo to new gaming heights.
Here's to the future
Dringo.
But lets for a moment ignore the fact Nintendo only control a small proportion of the market and look at why the Gamecube is a success. I never expected Nintendo to finally crush their rivals just yet, no the best Nintendo could hope for was to catch up... and thats exactly what is happening. The Gamecube stormed America, didn't fair as well as the X-box launch but much better than the PS2 launch and although they claim the X-box won Nintendo didn't lose either.
In Japan, despite the slow start, Nintendo have now got the sales it deserves, Number one at Christmas was Super Smash Brothers Melee! Damn right too, but another measure of Nintendo's success is the Gameboy Advance. This wonder handheld is so above the PS2, X-box and Gamecube it is almost funny. It will outsell all three and will rule the console market for years to come.
The conectivitiy between it and the Gamecube makes both systems seem like two halves of the same console. Number two in the Japanese Christmas list was Super Mario Advance 2 (Mario World, the greatest game ever with a few extras). The Fact is a 10 year old game beat everything Sony had to offer, Smash Brothers a title that appeared so very early in the Gamecube's life, beat every title Sony had to offer a console that has been around in that country for over a year and a half, it just shows that the Gamecube can meet Sony's standards only a few months after launch while it took Sony a year.
Measure of success shouldn't be judged on sales, the PS2 has a large user base as it has been out for a very long time but that doesn't mean the Gamecube is better. And now analyst predict Nintendo will have a 30% hold on the market compared with the N64's 22%. Lets face it the high increase in third party support from Capcom, Namco, Acclaim etc... will propell Nintendo to new gaming heights.
Here's to the future
Dringo.
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