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Not another "now I have your attention posts" this is indeed a post about Sex and gaming. Not another pornographic game post either, in fact I’m on about every day games we play today!
I'm not a major fan of sex, oh yeah of course I am but its more of a private matter for me no need to splash it over magazine covers and other media formats. But over the last few years I have noticed a gradual increase in the amount of innuendo and general sexual acts in computer games here are just a few examples. Dead or Alive 2, big busted females are not uncommon in the gaming industry but this really brought it to the next step. You get pictures of the Dead or Alive girls in Bikini's in both the Dreamcast (need to insert in PC) and PS2 versions and by bumping up your age rating girls become more, *ahem* bouncy.
Conker's Bad fur Day involved a sex scene not visible but audio between a Sunflower and a Bee, and the characters Jugga and Berrie were also wondering around in skin tight or scantily dressed clothes with some humorous remarks from Conker. Fear Effect 2, now come on, lesbians? Why Lesbians? What possessed the game designers to do this? Quit obviously to appeal to the dirty minded teenagers but by doing this are they not ignoring a certain gender? GTA 3 also features Sex we a many of usknow what happens when you grab a prostitute find a nice secluded area and park your car.
So what prompted this sudden change in the way games are designed? Lara Croft that is who, her alone has caused much a stir in the industry with many boys buying the title not necessarily for the gameplay and how many of you noticed how from game to game how she somehow got thinner in some areas but bigger in others? Now Sex is creeping further and further into our everyday games. Who knows what might happen between Mario and Peach in any upcoming title (At the end of Paper Mario, Mario takes Peach to his house!).
Why am I so angry, am I gay or something, not liking these small extras developers are putting in games. Well that isn't the problem it's the fact we are neglecting an entire audience the female gamers. Do Females enjoy watching two females kiss each other? Do they like the fact that Conker is transfixed by Jugga's erm other assists. No I am sure this isn't the case and so for a gaming industry that is supposedly evolving into bigger and better things why do we constantly neglect the female gamers?
I have heard many girls go on about Mario and Zelda, they never talk about Fear Effect and Tomb Raider, I wonder why??? You see Sony isn’t targeting the teenage market they are targeting the Male Teenage market. Nintendo are no saints either "Shall Thou Get the girl or shall thou play like one!" honestly Nintendo! Shoving Sex into mainstream games are all well and good but lets keep it balanced. The woman from Thumbandits pointed out that in Baldurs gate we have ugly men next to beautiful Women definatly a mans game. The fact is she liked it and only criticized it for the fact it aimed at the male gamers. Surly focusing on the male gamers alienates the females, the Woman from Thumbandits enjoyed the game and other Women might as well but unfortunately it doesn't appeal to females so they probably won’t bother, are the developers losing out?
Sigh, here's to the future.
Dringo
I'm not a major fan of sex, oh yeah of course I am but its more of a private matter for me no need to splash it over magazine covers and other media formats. But over the last few years I have noticed a gradual increase in the amount of innuendo and general sexual acts in computer games here are just a few examples. Dead or Alive 2, big busted females are not uncommon in the gaming industry but this really brought it to the next step. You get pictures of the Dead or Alive girls in Bikini's in both the Dreamcast (need to insert in PC) and PS2 versions and by bumping up your age rating girls become more, *ahem* bouncy.
Conker's Bad fur Day involved a sex scene not visible but audio between a Sunflower and a Bee, and the characters Jugga and Berrie were also wondering around in skin tight or scantily dressed clothes with some humorous remarks from Conker. Fear Effect 2, now come on, lesbians? Why Lesbians? What possessed the game designers to do this? Quit obviously to appeal to the dirty minded teenagers but by doing this are they not ignoring a certain gender? GTA 3 also features Sex we a many of usknow what happens when you grab a prostitute find a nice secluded area and park your car.
So what prompted this sudden change in the way games are designed? Lara Croft that is who, her alone has caused much a stir in the industry with many boys buying the title not necessarily for the gameplay and how many of you noticed how from game to game how she somehow got thinner in some areas but bigger in others? Now Sex is creeping further and further into our everyday games. Who knows what might happen between Mario and Peach in any upcoming title (At the end of Paper Mario, Mario takes Peach to his house!).
Why am I so angry, am I gay or something, not liking these small extras developers are putting in games. Well that isn't the problem it's the fact we are neglecting an entire audience the female gamers. Do Females enjoy watching two females kiss each other? Do they like the fact that Conker is transfixed by Jugga's erm other assists. No I am sure this isn't the case and so for a gaming industry that is supposedly evolving into bigger and better things why do we constantly neglect the female gamers?
I have heard many girls go on about Mario and Zelda, they never talk about Fear Effect and Tomb Raider, I wonder why??? You see Sony isn’t targeting the teenage market they are targeting the Male Teenage market. Nintendo are no saints either "Shall Thou Get the girl or shall thou play like one!" honestly Nintendo! Shoving Sex into mainstream games are all well and good but lets keep it balanced. The woman from Thumbandits pointed out that in Baldurs gate we have ugly men next to beautiful Women definatly a mans game. The fact is she liked it and only criticized it for the fact it aimed at the male gamers. Surly focusing on the male gamers alienates the females, the Woman from Thumbandits enjoyed the game and other Women might as well but unfortunately it doesn't appeal to females so they probably won’t bother, are the developers losing out?
Sigh, here's to the future.
Dringo
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Sex in gaming is hardly a new thing...
I seem to remember from the eighties, Sam Fox's Strip poker, Lesuire Suit Larry, Leather Goddesses of Phobos, Barbarian Ads, etc..
Its nothing Sony have invented... if fact its probably more the idea of the developer/distributor than Sony themselves?
Equally, sex in advetising, entertainment, is hardly a new thing... if you watch TV, read a magazine, go to the movies, listen to music... sex, scantily clan women, etc... are all there ina very prominent effect...
(as for Baulders Gate... I seem to remember that there are quite a few 'unattractive' women... a even more 'good looking' guys :) )
I seem to remember from the eighties, Sam Fox's Strip poker, Lesuire Suit Larry, Leather Goddesses of Phobos, Barbarian Ads, etc..
Its nothing Sony have invented... if fact its probably more the idea of the developer/distributor than Sony themselves?
Equally, sex in advetising, entertainment, is hardly a new thing... if you watch TV, read a magazine, go to the movies, listen to music... sex, scantily clan women, etc... are all there ina very prominent effect...
(as for Baulders Gate... I seem to remember that there are quite a few 'unattractive' women... a even more 'good looking' guys :) )
Female gamers make up about 5% (from memory) of the UK’s gaming community. For a snapshot of this fact go to any Lan gaming event, you’ll be able to write down the name (and prolly the phone number ;-) – sorry joking!) of every girl there on the back of a postage stamp!
So bearing that fact in mind, it’s not hard to see why developers aim their games at teenage lads – why bother thinking about the female contingent when it’s so small. Developing and selling computer games is business and as such you tailor the product to appeal to your audience.
It’s as simple as that.
The amount of female gamers won’t really increase to a degree that’ll ever make publishers (and these are the guys who really hold the purse strings, not the development teams) take them as a serious buying force. This means that developers won’t make games for them, which means the female gaming populous won’t grow significantly – now simply repeat that cycle for infinite!
To be honest i think that most female gamers accept (albeit slightly begrudgingly)the sexist slant in video games as a matter of course! They just get on with it and enjoy playing the games - which is, at the end of the day why we all play 'em!
So bearing that fact in mind, it’s not hard to see why developers aim their games at teenage lads – why bother thinking about the female contingent when it’s so small. Developing and selling computer games is business and as such you tailor the product to appeal to your audience.
It’s as simple as that.
The amount of female gamers won’t really increase to a degree that’ll ever make publishers (and these are the guys who really hold the purse strings, not the development teams) take them as a serious buying force. This means that developers won’t make games for them, which means the female gaming populous won’t grow significantly – now simply repeat that cycle for infinite!
To be honest i think that most female gamers accept (albeit slightly begrudgingly)the sexist slant in video games as a matter of course! They just get on with it and enjoy playing the games - which is, at the end of the day why we all play 'em!
Turbonutter wrote:
> With certain moves in DOA2 you can get to see the women's white linnen panties.
> Ahem.
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............... Words fail me. I 'm sure I will find my words by the time I go on mIRC tonight. Oh, I've remembered.
Dear me.
I'm sure there was more. Good day to you, Rob.
> With certain moves in DOA2 you can get to see the women's white linnen panties.
> Ahem.
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............... Words fail me. I 'm sure I will find my words by the time I go on mIRC tonight. Oh, I've remembered.
Dear me.
I'm sure there was more. Good day to you, Rob.
Yes unfortunately developers still dont get the message that is sent to them from the depths of the society. Whereas the number of women gamers is increasing rapidly, males are still the dominant part of the gamers out there and since developers dont seem to think about nothing else but the money, they try and appeal to men as hard as possible.
I heard many people say how they enjoy playing as sexy female characters and that sex in games appeals to them. But to be honest, whereas it may be nice ti have a saucy sidekick, you really want to concentrate on the gameplay and not on someones panzershreks (thats a new one ;).
Companies really ought to think more about their audiences and consider everyones interests. Where scandily-clad women seem to offend women a lot, males in hardly anything but their shorts do not seem to bother anyone.
But there is a lot of thinking to be done by the developers if they want to represent the female part of the society in a positive and an acceptable way.
Thank you
I heard many people say how they enjoy playing as sexy female characters and that sex in games appeals to them. But to be honest, whereas it may be nice ti have a saucy sidekick, you really want to concentrate on the gameplay and not on someones panzershreks (thats a new one ;).
Companies really ought to think more about their audiences and consider everyones interests. Where scandily-clad women seem to offend women a lot, males in hardly anything but their shorts do not seem to bother anyone.
But there is a lot of thinking to be done by the developers if they want to represent the female part of the society in a positive and an acceptable way.
Thank you
With certain moves in DOA2 you can get to see the women's white linnen panties. Ahem.
Not another "now I have your attention posts" this is indeed a post about Sex and gaming. Not another pornographic game post either, in fact I’m on about every day games we play today!
I'm not a major fan of sex, oh yeah of course I am but its more of a private matter for me no need to splash it over magazine covers and other media formats. But over the last few years I have noticed a gradual increase in the amount of innuendo and general sexual acts in computer games here are just a few examples. Dead or Alive 2, big busted females are not uncommon in the gaming industry but this really brought it to the next step. You get pictures of the Dead or Alive girls in Bikini's in both the Dreamcast (need to insert in PC) and PS2 versions and by bumping up your age rating girls become more, *ahem* bouncy.
Conker's Bad fur Day involved a sex scene not visible but audio between a Sunflower and a Bee, and the characters Jugga and Berrie were also wondering around in skin tight or scantily dressed clothes with some humorous remarks from Conker. Fear Effect 2, now come on, lesbians? Why Lesbians? What possessed the game designers to do this? Quit obviously to appeal to the dirty minded teenagers but by doing this are they not ignoring a certain gender? GTA 3 also features Sex we a many of usknow what happens when you grab a prostitute find a nice secluded area and park your car.
So what prompted this sudden change in the way games are designed? Lara Croft that is who, her alone has caused much a stir in the industry with many boys buying the title not necessarily for the gameplay and how many of you noticed how from game to game how she somehow got thinner in some areas but bigger in others? Now Sex is creeping further and further into our everyday games. Who knows what might happen between Mario and Peach in any upcoming title (At the end of Paper Mario, Mario takes Peach to his house!).
Why am I so angry, am I gay or something, not liking these small extras developers are putting in games. Well that isn't the problem it's the fact we are neglecting an entire audience the female gamers. Do Females enjoy watching two females kiss each other? Do they like the fact that Conker is transfixed by Jugga's erm other assists. No I am sure this isn't the case and so for a gaming industry that is supposedly evolving into bigger and better things why do we constantly neglect the female gamers?
I have heard many girls go on about Mario and Zelda, they never talk about Fear Effect and Tomb Raider, I wonder why??? You see Sony isn’t targeting the teenage market they are targeting the Male Teenage market. Nintendo are no saints either "Shall Thou Get the girl or shall thou play like one!" honestly Nintendo! Shoving Sex into mainstream games are all well and good but lets keep it balanced. The woman from Thumbandits pointed out that in Baldurs gate we have ugly men next to beautiful Women definatly a mans game. The fact is she liked it and only criticized it for the fact it aimed at the male gamers. Surly focusing on the male gamers alienates the females, the Woman from Thumbandits enjoyed the game and other Women might as well but unfortunately it doesn't appeal to females so they probably won’t bother, are the developers losing out?
Sigh, here's to the future.
Dringo
I'm not a major fan of sex, oh yeah of course I am but its more of a private matter for me no need to splash it over magazine covers and other media formats. But over the last few years I have noticed a gradual increase in the amount of innuendo and general sexual acts in computer games here are just a few examples. Dead or Alive 2, big busted females are not uncommon in the gaming industry but this really brought it to the next step. You get pictures of the Dead or Alive girls in Bikini's in both the Dreamcast (need to insert in PC) and PS2 versions and by bumping up your age rating girls become more, *ahem* bouncy.
Conker's Bad fur Day involved a sex scene not visible but audio between a Sunflower and a Bee, and the characters Jugga and Berrie were also wondering around in skin tight or scantily dressed clothes with some humorous remarks from Conker. Fear Effect 2, now come on, lesbians? Why Lesbians? What possessed the game designers to do this? Quit obviously to appeal to the dirty minded teenagers but by doing this are they not ignoring a certain gender? GTA 3 also features Sex we a many of usknow what happens when you grab a prostitute find a nice secluded area and park your car.
So what prompted this sudden change in the way games are designed? Lara Croft that is who, her alone has caused much a stir in the industry with many boys buying the title not necessarily for the gameplay and how many of you noticed how from game to game how she somehow got thinner in some areas but bigger in others? Now Sex is creeping further and further into our everyday games. Who knows what might happen between Mario and Peach in any upcoming title (At the end of Paper Mario, Mario takes Peach to his house!).
Why am I so angry, am I gay or something, not liking these small extras developers are putting in games. Well that isn't the problem it's the fact we are neglecting an entire audience the female gamers. Do Females enjoy watching two females kiss each other? Do they like the fact that Conker is transfixed by Jugga's erm other assists. No I am sure this isn't the case and so for a gaming industry that is supposedly evolving into bigger and better things why do we constantly neglect the female gamers?
I have heard many girls go on about Mario and Zelda, they never talk about Fear Effect and Tomb Raider, I wonder why??? You see Sony isn’t targeting the teenage market they are targeting the Male Teenage market. Nintendo are no saints either "Shall Thou Get the girl or shall thou play like one!" honestly Nintendo! Shoving Sex into mainstream games are all well and good but lets keep it balanced. The woman from Thumbandits pointed out that in Baldurs gate we have ugly men next to beautiful Women definatly a mans game. The fact is she liked it and only criticized it for the fact it aimed at the male gamers. Surly focusing on the male gamers alienates the females, the Woman from Thumbandits enjoyed the game and other Women might as well but unfortunately it doesn't appeal to females so they probably won’t bother, are the developers losing out?
Sigh, here's to the future.
Dringo
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