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Britain and America or on the verge of war, Britain is in process of trying to get France to back its forces. But why is there need to go to war, what’s sparked it all off. What posed the east as a big threat? All I can say is never under estimate the power of other countries, we know how powerful America is these days, we’ve seen the films with all the jets and bombs filmed in America but we have never seen this in Iraq so I warn you all. Never say that Iraq is weak because its not just forces needed in a war, its intelligence. World war one saw the loss of thousands of soldiers in one day just because it was planned awfully. And most people today said that the leader who controlled the forces at the time was a murdered for sending troops in the way he did. Anyway back to the report.
A year and a half ago, September the 11th 2001, we all remember it. I was off that day sick, I turned on my TV to find a tower on smoke then 5 minutes later I saw the 2nd plane hit the tower live, at the time they all said it was an accident till the second plane hit. But where does the training to high jack a plane come from.
The training and courage to get a gun, go up to a pilot and say im in control, were was the security, where they too busy looking at the cabin crew walk past or in the local coffee bar eating anything they could.
I come back to the point of the gun going to the pilot. The plane was in trouble, under threat yet the pilot did nothing, now I’m not saying he should of said to air traffic some one has a gun to my head at the moment what do I do as he would of been dead within the second but what I do say is why dint he use the transponder to and set it to 7700. The transponder is a unit on aircraft which when set to the right frequency tell air traffic control where the plane is exactly on radar. By setting the frequency to 7700(I think that’s the code) he would of sent a distress call to airtrafic control telling them in code using no voice at all that the plane was under attack, now I know having a gun to your head isn’t easy to do anything with courage but he could of simply made it look like it was part of flying.
Before you say ,but the terrorists had control of the plane, I cant agree more but the pilots must of had a chance to do this, and to be onset even though they didn’t I wouldn’t blame them, I cant see them been able to do anything with a gun to their head
But how did the pilots know what they were doing, I mean they couldn’t of had a simulating machine that cost around 1 billion dollars but they probably had a pc with flight simulator 2000 on it. And no joke at all was this what trained the pilots to control the planes. Ive played the game my self for hours on end and I know how simple it makes flying a plane and once you’ve played the game your self you will think the same I’m sure of it. One week in October last year I played the game a lot , on the following weekend I went on holiday to Italy during the flight I asked the cabin if I could see the cockpit and they said yes when I arrived I was kindly greeted by the pilots. I looked out the windows and down at the controls and there it was, Flight simulator, the exact look alike of it anyway. I said to the pilot is that a vor meter, is that your generator switch, is that your hsi indicator etc and the pilot said to yes to all of them. he said to me how do you know all this, have u trained or something your self, are you training to be a pilot of some sort and I said no, I learnt it all from one game that Microsoft distrubes very cheaply (compared to a real simulator)
Now I’m not being a show off here but lets say that if the pilots all of a sudden died and someone had to control the plane I would feel confident enough to do it, I know the controls my self and with a tiny bit of assistance from air traffic control id be able to land it with one big hit to the ground. But the terrorists of September the 11th only had to turn it and go straight in to a building.
The game its self is 10 out of 10 in my eyes but should it be banned for sale as we approach war, now I realise its too late to this as probably 3 million copies are out everywhere in the world probably more but should there be a ban on future games like this. I know my self that Microsoft have comenced work on the 2004 edition but would you be surprised if George bush said to Microsoft you cant sell it due to the war problems. I know I wouldn’t.
Each edition of the game gets more realistic, 2002 edition is more advanced that 2000 edition ,such things as gps more advanced, more flight planning, more scenery in large cities and ATC and interactive flying. So if 2004 was released it would obviously be more realistic and there fore teach more to those who are planning on crashing planes in to buildings.
So the over all questions are
Was it a game that caused them to crash a plane?
Should flight simulator be banned?
Did the game influence terrorists to use this method to attack America?
War isn’t everything you think it is. Sounds cool getting a gun and going in a shooting anything you see. Why does it sound cool thought. Is it because we have played the game and looks good to do in real life as someone else pointed out in a “Do games create violence” topic Are games like GTA III what make war look fun, shooting someone in a game is addictive but would you ever play your game again if someone came in your house and shot your family for fun just because the got the mix of “games” with “real life” this brings my next question of
Why do games mix so well with becoming real?
If you don’t understand that question look at it like this.
You have a crack at a Formula 1 game, you got addicted to it and played it for days on end as you do when you love one of your games, then out of look you find a formula one car on your drive (yeah rite! But let’s pretend you did) if you got in the car turned it on you would probably be able to get that car moving just because you have basic knowledge of the car from the F1 game you just played
Where are games going too far?
Or are games ok how they are?
Should they at least be a limit to how realistic they can get?
Thank you for reading my post. It’s a bit long. ( sorry about that )
A year and a half ago, September the 11th 2001, we all remember it. I was off that day sick, I turned on my TV to find a tower on smoke then 5 minutes later I saw the 2nd plane hit the tower live, at the time they all said it was an accident till the second plane hit. But where does the training to high jack a plane come from.
The training and courage to get a gun, go up to a pilot and say im in control, were was the security, where they too busy looking at the cabin crew walk past or in the local coffee bar eating anything they could.
I come back to the point of the gun going to the pilot. The plane was in trouble, under threat yet the pilot did nothing, now I’m not saying he should of said to air traffic some one has a gun to my head at the moment what do I do as he would of been dead within the second but what I do say is why dint he use the transponder to and set it to 7700. The transponder is a unit on aircraft which when set to the right frequency tell air traffic control where the plane is exactly on radar. By setting the frequency to 7700(I think that’s the code) he would of sent a distress call to airtrafic control telling them in code using no voice at all that the plane was under attack, now I know having a gun to your head isn’t easy to do anything with courage but he could of simply made it look like it was part of flying.
Before you say ,but the terrorists had control of the plane, I cant agree more but the pilots must of had a chance to do this, and to be onset even though they didn’t I wouldn’t blame them, I cant see them been able to do anything with a gun to their head
But how did the pilots know what they were doing, I mean they couldn’t of had a simulating machine that cost around 1 billion dollars but they probably had a pc with flight simulator 2000 on it. And no joke at all was this what trained the pilots to control the planes. Ive played the game my self for hours on end and I know how simple it makes flying a plane and once you’ve played the game your self you will think the same I’m sure of it. One week in October last year I played the game a lot , on the following weekend I went on holiday to Italy during the flight I asked the cabin if I could see the cockpit and they said yes when I arrived I was kindly greeted by the pilots. I looked out the windows and down at the controls and there it was, Flight simulator, the exact look alike of it anyway. I said to the pilot is that a vor meter, is that your generator switch, is that your hsi indicator etc and the pilot said to yes to all of them. he said to me how do you know all this, have u trained or something your self, are you training to be a pilot of some sort and I said no, I learnt it all from one game that Microsoft distrubes very cheaply (compared to a real simulator)
Now I’m not being a show off here but lets say that if the pilots all of a sudden died and someone had to control the plane I would feel confident enough to do it, I know the controls my self and with a tiny bit of assistance from air traffic control id be able to land it with one big hit to the ground. But the terrorists of September the 11th only had to turn it and go straight in to a building.
The game its self is 10 out of 10 in my eyes but should it be banned for sale as we approach war, now I realise its too late to this as probably 3 million copies are out everywhere in the world probably more but should there be a ban on future games like this. I know my self that Microsoft have comenced work on the 2004 edition but would you be surprised if George bush said to Microsoft you cant sell it due to the war problems. I know I wouldn’t.
Each edition of the game gets more realistic, 2002 edition is more advanced that 2000 edition ,such things as gps more advanced, more flight planning, more scenery in large cities and ATC and interactive flying. So if 2004 was released it would obviously be more realistic and there fore teach more to those who are planning on crashing planes in to buildings.
So the over all questions are
Was it a game that caused them to crash a plane?
Should flight simulator be banned?
Did the game influence terrorists to use this method to attack America?
War isn’t everything you think it is. Sounds cool getting a gun and going in a shooting anything you see. Why does it sound cool thought. Is it because we have played the game and looks good to do in real life as someone else pointed out in a “Do games create violence” topic Are games like GTA III what make war look fun, shooting someone in a game is addictive but would you ever play your game again if someone came in your house and shot your family for fun just because the got the mix of “games” with “real life” this brings my next question of
Why do games mix so well with becoming real?
If you don’t understand that question look at it like this.
You have a crack at a Formula 1 game, you got addicted to it and played it for days on end as you do when you love one of your games, then out of look you find a formula one car on your drive (yeah rite! But let’s pretend you did) if you got in the car turned it on you would probably be able to get that car moving just because you have basic knowledge of the car from the F1 game you just played
Where are games going too far?
Or are games ok how they are?
Should they at least be a limit to how realistic they can get?
Thank you for reading my post. It’s a bit long. ( sorry about that )
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I agree with you all but from difrent angles, some of you say how can a game train such a thing, may i ask those who think that if they have played flight simulater them selves and if they have then i beleive you have a fair argument against my post.
Games aren't the problem, Sept 11 was brought about by a conflict of ideologies/religions/beliefs.
MS Flight Simulator 'may' just have assisted a little in bringing one belief to collide with another, but I think the fact that some of the terrorists actually attended flight training schools may have had more to do with their flying skills than Microsoft.
MS Flight Simulator 'may' just have assisted a little in bringing one belief to collide with another, but I think the fact that some of the terrorists actually attended flight training schools may have had more to do with their flying skills than Microsoft.
oh and everything in that post i have learnt from playing that game. Ask me some simples questions about flying (not about the planes them self i.e how much petrol can they carry ) and il try my best to give you an answer from what i know from flight simulater
has any one played the game?
has any one played the game?
you have to think of the lessons it can give you thought agent under fire. i mean if you played a flying game and you got in to a jet you`d find something familiar to you wouldnt you.
i didnt mean confident enough to fly a plane and become a pilot i just meant that if i knew where the main buttons were then im sure id be able to fly that plane some where at least. i cant say i wouldnt be scared tho.
You honestly would feel confident flying a plane after just playing the game? So you know what all the buttons do, i'm sure the real-life is a little different. Also, i doubt that people preparing for war will be thinking whether they can train their troops on a game. However, it was a good post although i disagree with most of it:D
Smashed wrote:
> Doughnut Monster© wrote:
> it's all pap I tell ya !!! people are always tryin' to blame video
> games on something, I won't have it!
>
> Maybe Bin Laden was a fan of microsoft flightsim and they used that
> to
> practise!
>
> why not thought. could you agree with one of theese at least
> 1) Pc games cause these problems
> 2) Pc games are sometimes to close to being realisitic
Some films are too close to being realistic.
Oh, wait - they've got actual people in them, in real places.
But games are definatly the problem, yes.
> Doughnut Monster© wrote:
> it's all pap I tell ya !!! people are always tryin' to blame video
> games on something, I won't have it!
>
> Maybe Bin Laden was a fan of microsoft flightsim and they used that
> to
> practise!
>
> why not thought. could you agree with one of theese at least
> 1) Pc games cause these problems
> 2) Pc games are sometimes to close to being realisitic
Some films are too close to being realistic.
Oh, wait - they've got actual people in them, in real places.
But games are definatly the problem, yes.
Yes, I can see Bin Laden sitting in some damp, grimy cave with a PS2 playing Ace Combat or summit. Maybe wondering if the planes would bounce off skyscrapers in real life.
It doesn't take a genius to see that a hijacked plane can be a deadly weapon. It's not illegal to fly on one, so no-one can catch you out for buying plane tickets with the intention of hijacking; and all you need is to smuggle on a gun etc. which even that reporter bloke did, then jump up and shout a lot of stuff.
It doesn't take a genius to see that a hijacked plane can be a deadly weapon. It's not illegal to fly on one, so no-one can catch you out for buying plane tickets with the intention of hijacking; and all you need is to smuggle on a gun etc. which even that reporter bloke did, then jump up and shout a lot of stuff.
Doughnut Monster© wrote:
> it's all pap I tell ya !!! people are always tryin' to blame video
> games on something, I won't have it!
>
> Maybe Bin Laden was a fan of microsoft flightsim and they used that to
> practise!
why not thought. could you agree with one of theese at least
1) Pc games cause these problems
2) Pc games are sometimes to close to being realisitic
> it's all pap I tell ya !!! people are always tryin' to blame video
> games on something, I won't have it!
>
> Maybe Bin Laden was a fan of microsoft flightsim and they used that to
> practise!
why not thought. could you agree with one of theese at least
1) Pc games cause these problems
2) Pc games are sometimes to close to being realisitic
i did right it. you can get caught easily if it aint mine, search every forums, site and book in the world i wrote it.
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