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Britain and America or on the verge of war, Britain is in process of trying to get France to back its forces. But why is there need to go to war, what’s sparked it all off. What posed the east as a big threat? All I can say is never under estimate the power of other countries, we know how powerful America is these days, we’ve seen the films with all the jets and bombs filmed in America but we have never seen this in Iraq so I warn you all. Never say that Iraq is weak because its not just forces needed in a war, its intelligence. World war one saw the loss of thousands of soldiers in one day just because it was planned awfully. And most people today said that the leader who controlled the forces at the time was a murdered for sending troops in the way he did. Anyway back to the report.
A year and a half ago, September the 11th 2001, we all remember it. I was off that day sick, I turned on my TV to find a tower on smoke then 5 minutes later I saw the 2nd plane hit the tower live, at the time they all said it was an accident till the second plane hit. But where does the training to high jack a plane come from.
The training and courage to get a gun, go up to a pilot and say im in control, were was the security, where they too busy looking at the cabin crew walk past or in the local coffee bar eating anything they could.
I come back to the point of the gun going to the pilot. The plane was in trouble, under threat yet the pilot did nothing, now I’m not saying he should of said to air traffic some one has a gun to my head at the moment what do I do as he would of been dead within the second but what I do say is why dint he use the transponder to and set it to 7700. The transponder is a unit on aircraft which when set to the right frequency tell air traffic control where the plane is exactly on radar. By setting the frequency to 7700(I think that’s the code) he would of sent a distress call to airtrafic control telling them in code using no voice at all that the plane was under attack, now I know having a gun to your head isn’t easy to do anything with courage but he could of simply made it look like it was part of flying.
Before you say ,but the terrorists had control of the plane, I cant agree more but the pilots must of had a chance to do this, and to be onset even though they didn’t I wouldn’t blame them, I cant see them been able to do anything with a gun to their head
But how did the pilots know what they were doing, I mean they couldn’t of had a simulating machine that cost around 1 billion dollars but they probably had a pc with flight simulator 2000 on it. And no joke at all was this what trained the pilots to control the planes. Ive played the game my self for hours on end and I know how simple it makes flying a plane and once you’ve played the game your self you will think the same I’m sure of it. One week in October last year I played the game a lot , on the following weekend I went on holiday to Italy during the flight I asked the cabin if I could see the cockpit and they said yes when I arrived I was kindly greeted by the pilots. I looked out the windows and down at the controls and there it was, Flight simulator, the exact look alike of it anyway. I said to the pilot is that a vor meter, is that your generator switch, is that your hsi indicator etc and the pilot said to yes to all of them. he said to me how do you know all this, have u trained or something your self, are you training to be a pilot of some sort and I said no, I learnt it all from one game that Microsoft distrubes very cheaply (compared to a real simulator)
Now I’m not being a show off here but lets say that if the pilots all of a sudden died and someone had to control the plane I would feel confident enough to do it, I know the controls my self and with a tiny bit of assistance from air traffic control id be able to land it with one big hit to the ground. But the terrorists of September the 11th only had to turn it and go straight in to a building.
The game its self is 10 out of 10 in my eyes but should it be banned for sale as we approach war, now I realise its too late to this as probably 3 million copies are out everywhere in the world probably more but should there be a ban on future games like this. I know my self that Microsoft have comenced work on the 2004 edition but would you be surprised if George bush said to Microsoft you cant sell it due to the war problems. I know I wouldn’t.
Each edition of the game gets more realistic, 2002 edition is more advanced that 2000 edition ,such things as gps more advanced, more flight planning, more scenery in large cities and ATC and interactive flying. So if 2004 was released it would obviously be more realistic and there fore teach more to those who are planning on crashing planes in to buildings.
So the over all questions are
Was it a game that caused them to crash a plane?
Should flight simulator be banned?
Did the game influence terrorists to use this method to attack America?
War isn’t everything you think it is. Sounds cool getting a gun and going in a shooting anything you see. Why does it sound cool thought. Is it because we have played the game and looks good to do in real life as someone else pointed out in a “Do games create violence” topic Are games like GTA III what make war look fun, shooting someone in a game is addictive but would you ever play your game again if someone came in your house and shot your family for fun just because the got the mix of “games” with “real life” this brings my next question of
Why do games mix so well with becoming real?
If you don’t understand that question look at it like this.
You have a crack at a Formula 1 game, you got addicted to it and played it for days on end as you do when you love one of your games, then out of look you find a formula one car on your drive (yeah rite! But let’s pretend you did) if you got in the car turned it on you would probably be able to get that car moving just because you have basic knowledge of the car from the F1 game you just played
Where are games going too far?
Or are games ok how they are?
Should they at least be a limit to how realistic they can get?
Thank you for reading my post. It’s a bit long. ( sorry about that )
A year and a half ago, September the 11th 2001, we all remember it. I was off that day sick, I turned on my TV to find a tower on smoke then 5 minutes later I saw the 2nd plane hit the tower live, at the time they all said it was an accident till the second plane hit. But where does the training to high jack a plane come from.
The training and courage to get a gun, go up to a pilot and say im in control, were was the security, where they too busy looking at the cabin crew walk past or in the local coffee bar eating anything they could.
I come back to the point of the gun going to the pilot. The plane was in trouble, under threat yet the pilot did nothing, now I’m not saying he should of said to air traffic some one has a gun to my head at the moment what do I do as he would of been dead within the second but what I do say is why dint he use the transponder to and set it to 7700. The transponder is a unit on aircraft which when set to the right frequency tell air traffic control where the plane is exactly on radar. By setting the frequency to 7700(I think that’s the code) he would of sent a distress call to airtrafic control telling them in code using no voice at all that the plane was under attack, now I know having a gun to your head isn’t easy to do anything with courage but he could of simply made it look like it was part of flying.
Before you say ,but the terrorists had control of the plane, I cant agree more but the pilots must of had a chance to do this, and to be onset even though they didn’t I wouldn’t blame them, I cant see them been able to do anything with a gun to their head
But how did the pilots know what they were doing, I mean they couldn’t of had a simulating machine that cost around 1 billion dollars but they probably had a pc with flight simulator 2000 on it. And no joke at all was this what trained the pilots to control the planes. Ive played the game my self for hours on end and I know how simple it makes flying a plane and once you’ve played the game your self you will think the same I’m sure of it. One week in October last year I played the game a lot , on the following weekend I went on holiday to Italy during the flight I asked the cabin if I could see the cockpit and they said yes when I arrived I was kindly greeted by the pilots. I looked out the windows and down at the controls and there it was, Flight simulator, the exact look alike of it anyway. I said to the pilot is that a vor meter, is that your generator switch, is that your hsi indicator etc and the pilot said to yes to all of them. he said to me how do you know all this, have u trained or something your self, are you training to be a pilot of some sort and I said no, I learnt it all from one game that Microsoft distrubes very cheaply (compared to a real simulator)
Now I’m not being a show off here but lets say that if the pilots all of a sudden died and someone had to control the plane I would feel confident enough to do it, I know the controls my self and with a tiny bit of assistance from air traffic control id be able to land it with one big hit to the ground. But the terrorists of September the 11th only had to turn it and go straight in to a building.
The game its self is 10 out of 10 in my eyes but should it be banned for sale as we approach war, now I realise its too late to this as probably 3 million copies are out everywhere in the world probably more but should there be a ban on future games like this. I know my self that Microsoft have comenced work on the 2004 edition but would you be surprised if George bush said to Microsoft you cant sell it due to the war problems. I know I wouldn’t.
Each edition of the game gets more realistic, 2002 edition is more advanced that 2000 edition ,such things as gps more advanced, more flight planning, more scenery in large cities and ATC and interactive flying. So if 2004 was released it would obviously be more realistic and there fore teach more to those who are planning on crashing planes in to buildings.
So the over all questions are
Was it a game that caused them to crash a plane?
Should flight simulator be banned?
Did the game influence terrorists to use this method to attack America?
War isn’t everything you think it is. Sounds cool getting a gun and going in a shooting anything you see. Why does it sound cool thought. Is it because we have played the game and looks good to do in real life as someone else pointed out in a “Do games create violence” topic Are games like GTA III what make war look fun, shooting someone in a game is addictive but would you ever play your game again if someone came in your house and shot your family for fun just because the got the mix of “games” with “real life” this brings my next question of
Why do games mix so well with becoming real?
If you don’t understand that question look at it like this.
You have a crack at a Formula 1 game, you got addicted to it and played it for days on end as you do when you love one of your games, then out of look you find a formula one car on your drive (yeah rite! But let’s pretend you did) if you got in the car turned it on you would probably be able to get that car moving just because you have basic knowledge of the car from the F1 game you just played
Where are games going too far?
Or are games ok how they are?
Should they at least be a limit to how realistic they can get?
Thank you for reading my post. It’s a bit long. ( sorry about that )
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Smashed wrote:
> To anyone reply to my post. Have you ever played flight simulater.
No but I do know that it probably did play a part in sept 11th, a grim as it may sound terrorists would almost certainly have used it for target practise as MS Flight sim is the most realistic of all flight sims, form the aircraft control to the locations, some sick ***** out there would be sick enough to actually be trying to re-create the horrific events of sept 11th
I can just picture someone sitting with a cup of coffe beside them and a flight joystick flying planes into various different buildings.
In Fact maybe this is where Bin Laden got the idea from, maybe one of his followers was playing a game of MS flight sim and decided to start flying planes into buildings, thus giving the awful idea of Sept 11th.
So in a word yes perhaps videogames could be responsible for the events of sept 11th perhaps it's where those terrorist scum got the idea from in the first place, then again maybe not, maybe they got the idea from films. terrorists could've gotten the idea from anywhere.
Perhaps Bin Laden trained his terrorists using films like Air Force one or Con-Air. Just think how usefull films like those would be to terrorists, some could argue that films like those should be banned, perhaps they should but then again that's up to the government and the ITC.
Still terrorists could've found their ideas from anywhere, or anyone.
The possibilities are just endless, and if MS Flight Sim is the source of the idea that brought on the events of Sept11th perhaps Bill Gates should be put out of buisness for aiding terrorists.
No doubt some boffins in American Intellegence Angences have already looked upon these facts, but I'm just pointing out what could be the source of Sept11th.
> To anyone reply to my post. Have you ever played flight simulater.
No but I do know that it probably did play a part in sept 11th, a grim as it may sound terrorists would almost certainly have used it for target practise as MS Flight sim is the most realistic of all flight sims, form the aircraft control to the locations, some sick ***** out there would be sick enough to actually be trying to re-create the horrific events of sept 11th
I can just picture someone sitting with a cup of coffe beside them and a flight joystick flying planes into various different buildings.
In Fact maybe this is where Bin Laden got the idea from, maybe one of his followers was playing a game of MS flight sim and decided to start flying planes into buildings, thus giving the awful idea of Sept 11th.
So in a word yes perhaps videogames could be responsible for the events of sept 11th perhaps it's where those terrorist scum got the idea from in the first place, then again maybe not, maybe they got the idea from films. terrorists could've gotten the idea from anywhere.
Perhaps Bin Laden trained his terrorists using films like Air Force one or Con-Air. Just think how usefull films like those would be to terrorists, some could argue that films like those should be banned, perhaps they should but then again that's up to the government and the ITC.
Still terrorists could've found their ideas from anywhere, or anyone.
The possibilities are just endless, and if MS Flight Sim is the source of the idea that brought on the events of Sept11th perhaps Bill Gates should be put out of buisness for aiding terrorists.
No doubt some boffins in American Intellegence Angences have already looked upon these facts, but I'm just pointing out what could be the source of Sept11th.
Yes we do need to go to war....I need a full time wage....j/k
and its easy enough to fly a plane, believe me, i've done it enough and fight sims are nothing like the real thing...s'a load of rubbish
and its easy enough to fly a plane, believe me, i've done it enough and fight sims are nothing like the real thing...s'a load of rubbish
Smashed wrote:
> Ask me some simples questions about flying
OK, your above 50,000 ft, and your fuel is starting to freeze out because of the atmospheric temperature.
There are 2 thigns you can do.
One is a maneuvere, the other is a control.
Go.
> Ask me some simples questions about flying
OK, your above 50,000 ft, and your fuel is starting to freeze out because of the atmospheric temperature.
There are 2 thigns you can do.
One is a maneuvere, the other is a control.
Go.
To anyone reply to my post. Have you ever played flight simulater.
dumb question i just asked. There probably asleep!
where is everyone?
I dont mean to be nasty when i post some of these coments. Have you actauly played flight simulater your self becuase i can tell you its one good game, its so precise to real life ( well i think so any way )
plane without the n
You can't fly a plain with no knowledge or experience of flying previously, no matter how many Flight Simulators you have played.
Its a simple case of scapegoating, its the same with the increase of gun crime... The government can't handle the country so they create scapegoats of all forms.... It was errrr..... Him...?
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