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"Discrimination against the Xbox: It has to stop"

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Sun 23/02/03 at 14:18
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How many times has the Xbox been criticized as a computer? Many people say that the Xbox is an overrated fraud of a console. The other day my friend started to criticize the Xbox, comparing it to his Playstation 2 saying how much better it was. He plays on my Xbox and sure enough after an hour gaming on Halo he suddenly had some different opinions about the matter. After another hours gaming on Sega GT 2002 and Colin MacCrae Rally 3 he finally decided to renounce his earlier opinions of the Xbox and admit that it was a pretty good computer. Computer? COMPUTER!!! I was enraged. I nearly hit him over the head with his Playstation 2 he brought to "play on". It didn't even get out of his bag.

OK, the Xbox may have been made by Microsoft, who make computers and software by trade but that does not mean people can treat and dismiss the Xbox as a computer. Even now the Playstation 2 is having a desktop software being created for it. It is having keyboards and mouse’s being adapted to work with it. Now if you were to compare that to the Xbox, which ones a computer now.

People also discriminated against the Xbox because of its size. So it’s big, size doesn't always matter. How else was Microsoft going to fit everything inside it to make it as powerful as it is today. Consoles were built for playing games on, not for carrying around. People might want to take their Console to a friend’s house but what’s the point. If you want a friend to play with you, invite them over to your house and play there. This reduces theft and damages to any console anywhere.

The main proof that people use to discriminate against the Xbox is the fact that Bill Gates is a rich git who does not care at all about the Xbox project. So what! Bill gates did not design or come up with the idea of the Xbox. It is not his dream. He really has no part to play in it other than fund its beginning. What people forget are the people who
actually build and manufacture the Xbox. Most don’t even earn as much as 0.00005% of Bill gates fortune. They have to work and make sure the Xbox sells for their own individual profit. That’s where quality control and quality manufacture comes in. Bill owns the Microsoft name, which only means he gets some of the money. If people want any of it they have to work and make sure their division of the Microsoft Empire sells; otherwise they either do not get paid or/and are out of a job.

In conclusion I would like to add that one of the biggest reasons why people do not like the Xbox is because they are jealous, jealous because its better than any of their consoles.
Mon 24/02/03 at 19:06
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Whyman1 wrote:
> OK, the Xbox may have been made by Microsoft, who make computers and
> software by trade but that does not mean people can treat and dismiss
> the Xbox as a computer. Even now the Playstation 2 is having a desktop
> software being created for it. It is having keyboards and mouse’s
> being adapted to work with it. Now if you were to compare that to the
> Xbox, which ones a computer now.

Firstly, Microsoft do not make computers, the Windows OS software is bundled with just about all personal computers these days. People can be fooled, as now you may find microsoft stickers on your hardware.

I think of my Xbox as a portable entertainment system, not a personal home computer. Plus its cheaper than a computer of the same hardware specifications.

Xbox is obviously the most powerful console, and the heaviest, what annoys me is that not enough games are taking hold of the unique potential of the Xbox. Blinx comes to mind as a recent release using the xbox hardware fully, I rented it and was extremely disapointed. Come on fable!
Mon 24/02/03 at 19:03
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Maverick42 wrote:
> Come on - be fair. It's so much like a PC, in the way that it works
> and feels that these people just can't be blamed.

But it's not! It's no different to my Sega Saturn I had a couple of years back in the way it works, other than the fact it has some fancy graphics.

It would be a naive
> perception to say Video Games Consoles weren't slowly turning into
> computers.

They're slowly turning into PCs, but they haven't crossed the line yet. They still play games as their only function other than the odd DVD player, but that doesn't mean they're PCs.


> What you must understand - is that it's not an insult. Why not take it
> as a complement towards the console?

I'm not saying it's an insult. I'm saying the Xbox isn't a PC. Hell, it can be made into a PC with some heavy modding, but it's not a PC yet.

I'd like it to be a PC though. It'd be the cheapest PC I've ever bought...

But it's not. I trust we are actually talking about PC style computers here, and not a calculator-type computer, seeing as everything that computes is a computer.
Mon 24/02/03 at 18:57
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Tóm wrote:
> But I don't recall doing any word processing on my Xbox. Nor do I
> remember surfing the internet on it, or using any other similar type
> of application.

Come on - be fair. It's so much like a PC, in the way that it works and feels that these people just can't be blamed. It would be a naive perception to say Video Games Consoles weren't slowly turning into computers. Even respected magazines such as Edge, and GamesTM have been none to call it a 'dressed up PC' or the like.

What you must understand - is that it's not an insult. Why not take it as a complement towards the console?
Mon 24/02/03 at 15:17
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I also got annoyed by those who were too ignorant to even give the xbox a chance or even just try it out. I pre-ordered an xbox about 6 months before the release at which time i owned a ps2, and when i told my mates they took the p!ss for ages, i don't understand why, because the xbox is clearly better.

It's good to see that some people see sense in the end i.e. DarkMark :)

I think the problem is that people who don't own an xbox are aware that the console is clearly better but just can't admit it, a litle jealous maybe?

Only until recently have people actually started to see how good the xbox really is, for the first 6 months of owning my xbox people just took the p!ss, why? Its better than their console.
Mon 24/02/03 at 00:20
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ÂLŠ†ÂÎR wrote:
> at the beginning I was annoyed at the number of people who were too
> ignorant to see a great console behind the Microsoft Xbox.

*

I used to be one of those people. Now I've seen the error of my ways and shelled out on an X-Box last Tuesday. And I love it.
Sun 23/02/03 at 23:02
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This time around I will be picking up all three console and on there release dates. I felt that the GameCube and PS2 both had poor launches in the United Kingdom and for me the PS2 never picked up the quality which I was expecting. I had a feeling that Nintendo would pull though and thankfully they have. After the release of Resident Evil the GameCube has gotten considerably better and after picking one up straight after Christmas I got a chance to see what was on offer. I wouldn't be too bothered if the GameCube 2 (or whatever Nitnendo decide to call it) doesn't contain a DVD player because I know both the Xbox 2 and PS3 will do. The great price of the GameCube was a great attraction from day 1 but I didn't feel that there were enough games out at the time to warrant a purchase.

I will be picking up a PS2 (again) after I have finished my GCSE's in order to complete my illusive collection of all 4 next generation consoles. Next time around however I will be getting all 3 of the consoles on their launches so that I can build up my collection from day 1 and try to stop the problem of making one console better than the other. Although I still favour the Xbox as my favourite console I am VERY happy with the GameCube and at the end of March I will have built a superb collection for both my Xbox and GameCube. Let people think what they want about the Xbox because at the end of the day as long as you enjoy it other peoples opinions about it do not count. At the beginning I was annoyed at the number of people who were too ignorant to see a great console behind the Microsoft Xbox. However nearly 1 year on from that I can safely say that the majority of people have realised the quality on offer and the few who haven't I don't bother with.
Sun 23/02/03 at 22:50
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PS3 and Xbox 2 will be "PC's under your telly" without any of the work stuff.

They will be the entertainment centre of the living room. Game's, DVDs, internet, downloadable music, everything. Nintendo better go the home entertainment route or they may get left behind.
Sun 23/02/03 at 22:39
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Christ, we all know XBOX and GC are better than PS2.

Lets just leave the fools to think they know best.
Sun 23/02/03 at 22:15
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> Maverick42 wrote:
> Lets face it - the X-Box is basically a cross between a PC and a
> Dreamcast.

No way.So I guess PS2 is a Ps1 and Dreamcast cross.

I agree,who cares about the size,it doesnt matter anyway,all it does is have a bigger space for a larger hardrive thus making it a better gaming system!
Sun 23/02/03 at 19:13
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Maverick42 wrote:
> Lets face it - the X-Box is basically a cross between a PC and a
> Dreamcast.

So not like the Gamecube which has IBM on the box then ?? Doesn't that make the GC a cross between a PC and a dreamcast and a child's play cube ? :)

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