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Yes, I know that it has been a hotly debated topic for years, but I have never heard any really good arguments that convince me that 3D games are a huge step up from 2D games or that 2D games are better than 3D games.
Graphics : The one part of the argument that is perfectly obvious as to which is better. No 2D games can really compete with 3D games in this department, bar perhaps the early Saturn 3D games where a 2D version would have been much more polished.
Sound is one factor that has changed, but that is not down to the ‘Revolutionary’ change in dimensions, more down to the increase in sound channels.
Now, game play is what really counts and some people will argue that “there are any no real improvements in this department when 3D games are compared to 2D games, many great 2D games lost all of their charm and quality when 3D updates were released.” Probotector on the SNES and MEGADRIVE was great, simple and addictive, and a good example in how a 2D game can be addictive and brilliantly fun to play, but perhaps a bad example in this argument as no 3D update has ever been attempted. Good examples though, are the entire shooting genre. Gradius, Defender and R-Type were fantastic but many 3D games trying to do the same ( Incoming, for example ) ended up being less fun than watching some fish fingers thaw for an afternoon. Defender is another game shortly to get a 3D update ( on PS2 ), but hopefully this will break the mould.
Then, there is the other side of the argument, which does argue that 3D games are indeed better than 2D games. They argue that some games like Mario 64, Ocarina Of Time and Metal Gear Solid are no way near as good in 2D and could never hope to be.
However, in my opinion, MGS was great in 2D ( SNES, GB ), as were the Mario games and Oracle Of Ages / Seasons on GBC. Some people even welcome character’s reappearances in 2D, such as Sonic in Sonic Advance ( GBA ). ( It is obvious that the GB is the 2D gamers platform of choice.) We must also remember that unless we are really young, even 2D games were revolutionary at first and many a magical youth was spent whiling away time with them. And don’t even get me started about the camera problems in 3D games ...
The question I ask you is... Is 2D magical, or an unwanted memory?
I would value someone else’s opinion on the matter... but for now, I remain completely neutral ( I enjoy both ).
Again, sorry for posting on such a frequently debated topic, but thanks for reading.
Graphics : The one part of the argument that is perfectly obvious as to which is better. No 2D games can really compete with 3D games in this department, bar perhaps the early Saturn 3D games where a 2D version would have been much more polished.
Sound is one factor that has changed, but that is not down to the ‘Revolutionary’ change in dimensions, more down to the increase in sound channels.
Now, game play is what really counts and some people will argue that “there are any no real improvements in this department when 3D games are compared to 2D games, many great 2D games lost all of their charm and quality when 3D updates were released.” Probotector on the SNES and MEGADRIVE was great, simple and addictive, and a good example in how a 2D game can be addictive and brilliantly fun to play, but perhaps a bad example in this argument as no 3D update has ever been attempted. Good examples though, are the entire shooting genre. Gradius, Defender and R-Type were fantastic but many 3D games trying to do the same ( Incoming, for example ) ended up being less fun than watching some fish fingers thaw for an afternoon. Defender is another game shortly to get a 3D update ( on PS2 ), but hopefully this will break the mould.
Then, there is the other side of the argument, which does argue that 3D games are indeed better than 2D games. They argue that some games like Mario 64, Ocarina Of Time and Metal Gear Solid are no way near as good in 2D and could never hope to be.
However, in my opinion, MGS was great in 2D ( SNES, GB ), as were the Mario games and Oracle Of Ages / Seasons on GBC. Some people even welcome character’s reappearances in 2D, such as Sonic in Sonic Advance ( GBA ). ( It is obvious that the GB is the 2D gamers platform of choice.) We must also remember that unless we are really young, even 2D games were revolutionary at first and many a magical youth was spent whiling away time with them. And don’t even get me started about the camera problems in 3D games ...
The question I ask you is... Is 2D magical, or an unwanted memory?
I would value someone else’s opinion on the matter... but for now, I remain completely neutral ( I enjoy both ).
Again, sorry for posting on such a frequently debated topic, but thanks for reading.
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2d is definetly out, although disney have started making 3d cartoons (at least someone finally gets it)
Well if you think about it you can do clever things with 3D. Take for example Conker's Bad Fur Day and The Matrix spoof. It just wouldn't be right if it was in 3D. The cutscenes in between that add to the comedy and they would not do that if they were 2D. 3D makes better gaming quality for all. Also if you were gunning down teddies in a manic style in a 360 circle. In 2-D You would only be able to shoot forward.
another example is Tony Hawks 2 on the GBC and Tony Hawks 2 on the Playstation or GBA! Enjoy. anyway It makes it more realistic. Can you imagine life in 2-D!
another example is Tony Hawks 2 on the GBC and Tony Hawks 2 on the Playstation or GBA! Enjoy. anyway It makes it more realistic. Can you imagine life in 2-D!
sherman wrote:
> well 2d games can be good for example gta, abes, street fighter but as games
> head towards making the game experiance more movie like 2d graphics just don't
> cut it. as for 3d games the graphic are much better but the main problem with 3d
> games are the controls and camera angles. but as recent games have shown that
> the control system and camera angles are improving in 3d games (e.g jak &
> daxter) just shows how superior they are to 2d. besides 3d graphics look much
> better that 2d games now, but 3d graphic in the past were ugly i have to admit.
> i'm sorry to say but 2d graphics are out of fashion.
2D is out? ... Somebody had better tell the Simpsons creators, Disney, etc...! :)
> well 2d games can be good for example gta, abes, street fighter but as games
> head towards making the game experiance more movie like 2d graphics just don't
> cut it. as for 3d games the graphic are much better but the main problem with 3d
> games are the controls and camera angles. but as recent games have shown that
> the control system and camera angles are improving in 3d games (e.g jak &
> daxter) just shows how superior they are to 2d. besides 3d graphics look much
> better that 2d games now, but 3d graphic in the past were ugly i have to admit.
> i'm sorry to say but 2d graphics are out of fashion.
2D is out? ... Somebody had better tell the Simpsons creators, Disney, etc...! :)
well 2d games can be good for example gta, abes, street fighter but as games head towards making the game experiance more movie like 2d graphics just don't cut it. as for 3d games the graphic are much better but the main problem with 3d games are the controls and camera angles. but as recent games have shown that the control system and camera angles are improving in 3d games (e.g jak & daxter) just shows how superior they are to 2d. besides 3d graphics look much better that 2d games now, but 3d graphic in the past were ugly i have to admit. i'm sorry to say but 2d graphics are out of fashion.
Top down 2D games, like Zelda are very similar to their 3D counterparts in every way but appearance.
Oracle of Ages is a fantastic game. Builds on the way we played Links Awakening. Capcom have brough a lot of new life to it, and threw in some classic Zelda puzzles too, so we weren't wandering too far from what we're comfortable with.
Oracle of Ages is a fantastic game. Builds on the way we played Links Awakening. Capcom have brough a lot of new life to it, and threw in some classic Zelda puzzles too, so we weren't wandering too far from what we're comfortable with.
a monk named frank wrote:
> BTW, don't diss Polaroid Pete !!!
You gotta be kidding me! :)
> BTW, don't diss Polaroid Pete !!!
You gotta be kidding me! :)
Polariod pete looks pants in every respect.
But recently, Klonoa 2 did 2D really well. Theres plenty of life in it, as long as the effort is put in.
But recently, Klonoa 2 did 2D really well. Theres plenty of life in it, as long as the effort is put in.
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