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Nintendo finally admitting serious GC problems...
Seemingly, Nintendo has given up on its “all is well, honest” stance, admitting that the GameCube has some serious problems that need to be overcome, and fast.
Speaking yesterday, Nintendo of America’s George Harrison made the most candid comments to date regarding the plight Nintendo faces in an increasingly hostile three-way console race.
“The real question is, as we start ‘03, what are we going to do differently?" said Harrison, the senior vice president of marketing for Nintendo of America. "For us it’s about trying to get the GameCube business moving and restore the confidence of the licensees."
This follows practically all the industry’s key third party-publishers taking a tentative step away from GameCube support over the past few weeks.
THQ, Sega, Electronic Arts, Codemasters - the list goes on, and the problem, with snowball-like effect, will only get worse unless confidence, both at consumer and industry level, is restored. Nintendo’s problems in the UK have been compounded by rumour that key retail chains are considering reducing GameCube exposure, or removing the machine altogether, in what would undoubtedly prove a killer blow.
The upcoming Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, a hotly-anticipated game sure to be a massive hit, is expected to revive the GameCube’s sales and profile as a killer-app hosting machine. “It’s [Zelda] clearly what we need - to get the GameCube moving,” stated Harrison.
Seemingly, Nintendo has given up on its “all is well, honest” stance, admitting that the GameCube has some serious problems that need to be overcome, and fast.
Speaking yesterday, Nintendo of America’s George Harrison made the most candid comments to date regarding the plight Nintendo faces in an increasingly hostile three-way console race.
“The real question is, as we start ‘03, what are we going to do differently?" said Harrison, the senior vice president of marketing for Nintendo of America. "For us it’s about trying to get the GameCube business moving and restore the confidence of the licensees."
This follows practically all the industry’s key third party-publishers taking a tentative step away from GameCube support over the past few weeks.
THQ, Sega, Electronic Arts, Codemasters - the list goes on, and the problem, with snowball-like effect, will only get worse unless confidence, both at consumer and industry level, is restored. Nintendo’s problems in the UK have been compounded by rumour that key retail chains are considering reducing GameCube exposure, or removing the machine altogether, in what would undoubtedly prove a killer blow.
The upcoming Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, a hotly-anticipated game sure to be a massive hit, is expected to revive the GameCube’s sales and profile as a killer-app hosting machine. “It’s [Zelda] clearly what we need - to get the GameCube moving,” stated Harrison.
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Insane Bartender wrote:
> I don't see how the Gamecube is any more "kiddish" than any
> other console. If you want to explain to me how it is, more than
> likely referring to Mario et al, then I can refute you with any number
> of infantile PS2 games.
because Nintendo are well know for making cartoony platformers or having other developers release cartoony games, i'm not attacking the Gamecube but pointing out the image problem Nintendo have.
> What do I play on my Cube? Well, I don't play any kiddies games, I can
> say that much.
not every game on the Gamecube is a kiddies game.
> It's got a kiddies reputation because of all the people who have never
> played any games on one and slate it because "GTA£ is da
> best eva and i kil u wiv ma stik i roxor".
I have never played GTA3 or Vice city so that dose not apply to me. I admit that I have never played on a Gamecube but I used to own an N64 and games like Banjo and Kazooie and Diddy Kong racing were around while the PSX add games like Metal gear solid, death trap dungion and GTA. Also don't forget Nintendo have Pokemon which is a kiddies game.
> I don't see how the Gamecube is any more "kiddish" than any
> other console. If you want to explain to me how it is, more than
> likely referring to Mario et al, then I can refute you with any number
> of infantile PS2 games.
because Nintendo are well know for making cartoony platformers or having other developers release cartoony games, i'm not attacking the Gamecube but pointing out the image problem Nintendo have.
> What do I play on my Cube? Well, I don't play any kiddies games, I can
> say that much.
not every game on the Gamecube is a kiddies game.
> It's got a kiddies reputation because of all the people who have never
> played any games on one and slate it because "GTA£ is da
> best eva and i kil u wiv ma stik i roxor".
I have never played GTA3 or Vice city so that dose not apply to me. I admit that I have never played on a Gamecube but I used to own an N64 and games like Banjo and Kazooie and Diddy Kong racing were around while the PSX add games like Metal gear solid, death trap dungion and GTA. Also don't forget Nintendo have Pokemon which is a kiddies game.
Never played Pokemon then?
Insane Bartender wrote:
> So, Sony approached hundreds of thousands of kids and told them
> "Mario is for gay boys, here's a cookie, spread the word"?
>
> I think not.
Mario is not gay. I loved playing Mario on my snes and Mario 64 was one of the best games I have played to date.
> So, Sony approached hundreds of thousands of kids and told them
> "Mario is for gay boys, here's a cookie, spread the word"?
>
> I think not.
Mario is not gay. I loved playing Mario on my snes and Mario 64 was one of the best games I have played to date.
Insane Bartender wrote:
> Never played Pokemon then?
yep I used to own Pokemon blue a few years ago on my Gameboy pocket but found it naff and tedius so I gave it to my cousin (who was about 10 at the time).
> Never played Pokemon then?
yep I used to own Pokemon blue a few years ago on my Gameboy pocket but found it naff and tedius so I gave it to my cousin (who was about 10 at the time).
Shadow Knight wrote:
> I have never played GTA3 or Vice city so that dose not apply to me. I
> admit that I have never played on a Gamecube but I used to own an N64
> and games like Banjo and Kazooie and Diddy Kong racing were around
> while the PSX add games like Metal gear solid, death trap dungion and
> GTA. Also don't forget Nintendo have Pokemon which is a kiddies game.
But you can also write from a different perspectvie here.
I had an N64 when there were adult games like GoldenEye, Shadow Man, Perfect Dark and Turok while the PSOne had kiddie games like Croc, Crash Bandicoot and Spyro.
Each console has their fair share of adult titles and their fair share of kiddie games. The N64, and ideed the GC had/have plenty of decent titles for older gamers, but some people wish to ignore that fact.
> I have never played GTA3 or Vice city so that dose not apply to me. I
> admit that I have never played on a Gamecube but I used to own an N64
> and games like Banjo and Kazooie and Diddy Kong racing were around
> while the PSX add games like Metal gear solid, death trap dungion and
> GTA. Also don't forget Nintendo have Pokemon which is a kiddies game.
But you can also write from a different perspectvie here.
I had an N64 when there were adult games like GoldenEye, Shadow Man, Perfect Dark and Turok while the PSOne had kiddie games like Croc, Crash Bandicoot and Spyro.
Each console has their fair share of adult titles and their fair share of kiddie games. The N64, and ideed the GC had/have plenty of decent titles for older gamers, but some people wish to ignore that fact.
Totoro wrote:
> But you can also write from a different perspectvie here.
> I had an N64 when there were adult games like GoldenEye, Shadow Man,
> Perfect Dark and Turok while the PSOne had kiddie games like Croc,
> Crash Bandicoot and Spyro.
> Each console has their fair share of adult titles and their fair share
> of kiddie games. The N64, and ideed the GC had/have plenty of decent
> titles for older gamers, but some people wish to ignore that fact.
yes I agree. Many still label Nintendo consoles as kiddies consoles.
> But you can also write from a different perspectvie here.
> I had an N64 when there were adult games like GoldenEye, Shadow Man,
> Perfect Dark and Turok while the PSOne had kiddie games like Croc,
> Crash Bandicoot and Spyro.
> Each console has their fair share of adult titles and their fair share
> of kiddie games. The N64, and ideed the GC had/have plenty of decent
> titles for older gamers, but some people wish to ignore that fact.
yes I agree. Many still label Nintendo consoles as kiddies consoles.
Because they're ignorant mongs...
You're all making an assumption about the lack of sales performance of the Gamecube. I think it's probably got more to do with the large gaps between AAA titles than the nature of those games. I don't know anyone who would refuse to play Mario or Zelda because they were 'kiddy'... but I do know people who wouldn't buy a console on the strength of two games. (This is just an example, before you all go off writing lists of how many games you have on the GC).
P.S. I bought a Dreamcast just for Soul Calibur, so I'm playing devils advocate here.
P.S. I bought a Dreamcast just for Soul Calibur, so I'm playing devils advocate here.
I heard they just needed to put the games on other platform because they were not making enough money on them, for example EA sports game are released on every format therefore 100% market while Nitendo games are only released on the GC which only holds about 10-15% of the market while PS2 holds 60-65% and X-box about 25%. They can sell many games if they only sell on their own format.
Willyum
Willyum
And here is where I have to inject, AGAIN, that Nintendo are profitting more than any of their competitors...
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