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"Afghanistan bans the internet
Web posted on 14/7/01
The Taliban tries to stop "immoral" material entering their country. In the Afghan Islamic Press, Taliban Foreign Minister Maulvi Wakil Ahmad Muttawakil said the Afghan government was not directly against the internet as a medium of communication but was against the easy availability of adult and improper content. He continued, "we want to establish a system in Afghanistan through which we can control all those things that are wrong, obscene, immoral and against Islam." This ban comes as a blow for international aid agencies and foreign Embassies who are expected to comply with the new ruling. Up until now they have been using phone lines and ISPs provided by neighbouring Pakistan to gain internet access. The Afghanistan Government, as of yet, have not mentioned exactly how they are to police this blanket ban, as trying to determine who is using the phone line for the internet or a telephone call, could prove tricky."
"we want to establish a system in Afghanistan through which we can control all those things that are wrong, obscene, immoral and against Islam"
Got me thinking that bit did.
The above is a news article from this website - dated in July of this year - how things have changed. I felt it was significant, so read it, see what you think.
Have you all enjoyed your Christmas holidays? If not then I'm sorry you haven't, hopefully, against all the misery and destruction in the world - hopefully because you can read this, you've had a Christmas, be grateful for it, which I am sure you are.
Afghanistan - 'war torn' doesn't even come close. This country has been destroyed, and standards of living are appalling beyond belief. Why? Because they had the power to do it.
You won't have forgotten, I doubt you ever will - the attacks on America, the worst in history which wiped the world trade centre buildings from the skyline of New York, killed thousands of innocent people, upped the pace of the advancing recession, made the world's stock markets tumble, made heroes out of many, but more importantly, made us all think.
I know that on September 11th I'd never appreciated my own life, and the life around me so much - how anyone could do such a thing in my eye, was and is beyond me, beyond words.
I know this is still being discussed (by me at least), months on, but hey - a war is still being fought, there is always a war being fought - but to the point of my post - why is everything down to one man - a certain Osama Bin Laden?
Will the world breathe a sigh of release when definite news of his death reaches us all? You know, I think it will. The USA, UK, The Northern Aliance, etc - they've turned a country into refugee camp - Bin Laden still hasn't been found, people with dynamite in their shoes are still walking onto planes, and the threat of biological warfare is a constant fear in the back of many, many minds.
One man - and his band wagon, the Taliban - now defunct, does that mean the world is safe? Who knows. Who cares, and why, if I could only ask one question in life - why would it be 'why'?
How would you feel you when you watch the 'Breaking News' that Bin Laden has been captured - how significant will it really be? Killing him wouldn't rid the world of all evil, it'd only bring about more mixed feelings, more evil - how hypocritical would this be? Angry, relieved, elated? How would/will you feel?
I'm sorry to write about this, but I haven't before - I feel it's important to discuss what is important, and I hope you have something to add.
When I saw those famous landmarks collapse over 3 months ago on every channel - I was shocked, my heart went out to everyone, I donated to whichever charity was asking for donations regarding the situation - and this affected everything.
Respect everything - Please take time to write a reply, I hope this is a suitable topic.
Electric Hedgehog
Web posted on 14/7/01
The Taliban tries to stop "immoral" material entering their country. In the Afghan Islamic Press, Taliban Foreign Minister Maulvi Wakil Ahmad Muttawakil said the Afghan government was not directly against the internet as a medium of communication but was against the easy availability of adult and improper content. He continued, "we want to establish a system in Afghanistan through which we can control all those things that are wrong, obscene, immoral and against Islam." This ban comes as a blow for international aid agencies and foreign Embassies who are expected to comply with the new ruling. Up until now they have been using phone lines and ISPs provided by neighbouring Pakistan to gain internet access. The Afghanistan Government, as of yet, have not mentioned exactly how they are to police this blanket ban, as trying to determine who is using the phone line for the internet or a telephone call, could prove tricky."
"we want to establish a system in Afghanistan through which we can control all those things that are wrong, obscene, immoral and against Islam"
Got me thinking that bit did.
The above is a news article from this website - dated in July of this year - how things have changed. I felt it was significant, so read it, see what you think.
Have you all enjoyed your Christmas holidays? If not then I'm sorry you haven't, hopefully, against all the misery and destruction in the world - hopefully because you can read this, you've had a Christmas, be grateful for it, which I am sure you are.
Afghanistan - 'war torn' doesn't even come close. This country has been destroyed, and standards of living are appalling beyond belief. Why? Because they had the power to do it.
You won't have forgotten, I doubt you ever will - the attacks on America, the worst in history which wiped the world trade centre buildings from the skyline of New York, killed thousands of innocent people, upped the pace of the advancing recession, made the world's stock markets tumble, made heroes out of many, but more importantly, made us all think.
I know that on September 11th I'd never appreciated my own life, and the life around me so much - how anyone could do such a thing in my eye, was and is beyond me, beyond words.
I know this is still being discussed (by me at least), months on, but hey - a war is still being fought, there is always a war being fought - but to the point of my post - why is everything down to one man - a certain Osama Bin Laden?
Will the world breathe a sigh of release when definite news of his death reaches us all? You know, I think it will. The USA, UK, The Northern Aliance, etc - they've turned a country into refugee camp - Bin Laden still hasn't been found, people with dynamite in their shoes are still walking onto planes, and the threat of biological warfare is a constant fear in the back of many, many minds.
One man - and his band wagon, the Taliban - now defunct, does that mean the world is safe? Who knows. Who cares, and why, if I could only ask one question in life - why would it be 'why'?
How would you feel you when you watch the 'Breaking News' that Bin Laden has been captured - how significant will it really be? Killing him wouldn't rid the world of all evil, it'd only bring about more mixed feelings, more evil - how hypocritical would this be? Angry, relieved, elated? How would/will you feel?
I'm sorry to write about this, but I haven't before - I feel it's important to discuss what is important, and I hope you have something to add.
When I saw those famous landmarks collapse over 3 months ago on every channel - I was shocked, my heart went out to everyone, I donated to whichever charity was asking for donations regarding the situation - and this affected everything.
Respect everything - Please take time to write a reply, I hope this is a suitable topic.
Electric Hedgehog
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Welcome to the forums Hedgehod, always nice to see an intelligent poster come along.
My personal feelings on the Bin Laden thing, and it is just personal opinion:
The "Coalition" (consisting of America and Britain) will not, nor have any interest in, catching Bin Laden.
Because if they do, then they have no enemy.
Which means no defence budget increases etc etc, you have to have an enemy.
And Bin Laden is a godsend.
Whether he is guilty of the attack on Sept 11th or not (I can't speak Arabic and therefore am unable to translate the tapes he broadcasts), he is the bogeyman now.
I find it odd that America didn't give a toss about the Taliban before Sept 11th. Couldn't care less about "democracy" in Afghanistan (with a history of assisting the Mujhadeen and Al Queda to roust Russia at first).
I don't think for one single second that Bin Laden will be captured or killed.
Same as Milsovic wasn't captured (he was handed over in a coup), same as Saddam Hussein, same as Ghadaffi etc (anyone else seeing a pattern here?).
The USA thumps it's chest, drops ordanance and then returns to it's foreing policy of "ignorance not intervention", until someone punches them in the balls.
My personal feelings on the Bin Laden thing, and it is just personal opinion:
The "Coalition" (consisting of America and Britain) will not, nor have any interest in, catching Bin Laden.
Because if they do, then they have no enemy.
Which means no defence budget increases etc etc, you have to have an enemy.
And Bin Laden is a godsend.
Whether he is guilty of the attack on Sept 11th or not (I can't speak Arabic and therefore am unable to translate the tapes he broadcasts), he is the bogeyman now.
I find it odd that America didn't give a toss about the Taliban before Sept 11th. Couldn't care less about "democracy" in Afghanistan (with a history of assisting the Mujhadeen and Al Queda to roust Russia at first).
I don't think for one single second that Bin Laden will be captured or killed.
Same as Milsovic wasn't captured (he was handed over in a coup), same as Saddam Hussein, same as Ghadaffi etc (anyone else seeing a pattern here?).
The USA thumps it's chest, drops ordanance and then returns to it's foreing policy of "ignorance not intervention", until someone punches them in the balls.
The whole Bin Laden thing has been turned into a press stunt by the Americans for 2 reasons:
1) To make people agree with America's continued persistance in Middle Eastern politics
2) So allow the allies to completely erradicate all terrorism.
The fact is that Sept 11th was not just caused by Bin Laden, but by dozens of organisers and terrorists... the American gov has focused on this one...
Which is not a good thing either- Bin Laden is a legend in Saudi Arabia for ousting the Russians from the middle East. So now, the Saudis (who, along with Iraq are the 2 biggest oil producers in the world), hate america for trying to kill their hero, for the Gulf war (explained later) and fo supporting Israel.
They hate the Gulf war because, as they see it, America did NOT save the Kuwaitian and Iranian people... they saved the Kuwaitian and Iranian royal families who live a life of luxury and control 90% of the contries' wealth while others starve!
Moving on...
Don't you not think it absolutely amazing that the allies have completely wiped out the Taliban... they have destroyed the leadership and army of a whole country in a couple of months... it really is shocking.
The Taliban never thought that the allies would either be able or even attempt to do such a thing.
Sonic
1) To make people agree with America's continued persistance in Middle Eastern politics
2) So allow the allies to completely erradicate all terrorism.
The fact is that Sept 11th was not just caused by Bin Laden, but by dozens of organisers and terrorists... the American gov has focused on this one...
Which is not a good thing either- Bin Laden is a legend in Saudi Arabia for ousting the Russians from the middle East. So now, the Saudis (who, along with Iraq are the 2 biggest oil producers in the world), hate america for trying to kill their hero, for the Gulf war (explained later) and fo supporting Israel.
They hate the Gulf war because, as they see it, America did NOT save the Kuwaitian and Iranian people... they saved the Kuwaitian and Iranian royal families who live a life of luxury and control 90% of the contries' wealth while others starve!
Moving on...
Don't you not think it absolutely amazing that the allies have completely wiped out the Taliban... they have destroyed the leadership and army of a whole country in a couple of months... it really is shocking.
The Taliban never thought that the allies would either be able or even attempt to do such a thing.
Sonic
I don't think Bin Laden should be put to death, as you say it will achieve nothing but more hatred.
However, overall I keep myself ignorant of all the crappy stuff going on in the world. There's too much of it. It's a crappy attitude I know, but I'd prefer to keep ignorant than sit about complaining and yet doing nothing to help make a difference.
Maybe one man can make a difference, but that one man won't be me.
Selfish? It could be viewed as such, I try to make a positive difference to those around me on a smaller scale. For now that will do me.
However, overall I keep myself ignorant of all the crappy stuff going on in the world. There's too much of it. It's a crappy attitude I know, but I'd prefer to keep ignorant than sit about complaining and yet doing nothing to help make a difference.
Maybe one man can make a difference, but that one man won't be me.
Selfish? It could be viewed as such, I try to make a positive difference to those around me on a smaller scale. For now that will do me.
"Afghanistan bans the internet
Web posted on 14/7/01
The Taliban tries to stop "immoral" material entering their country. In the Afghan Islamic Press, Taliban Foreign Minister Maulvi Wakil Ahmad Muttawakil said the Afghan government was not directly against the internet as a medium of communication but was against the easy availability of adult and improper content. He continued, "we want to establish a system in Afghanistan through which we can control all those things that are wrong, obscene, immoral and against Islam." This ban comes as a blow for international aid agencies and foreign Embassies who are expected to comply with the new ruling. Up until now they have been using phone lines and ISPs provided by neighbouring Pakistan to gain internet access. The Afghanistan Government, as of yet, have not mentioned exactly how they are to police this blanket ban, as trying to determine who is using the phone line for the internet or a telephone call, could prove tricky."
"we want to establish a system in Afghanistan through which we can control all those things that are wrong, obscene, immoral and against Islam"
Got me thinking that bit did.
The above is a news article from this website - dated in July of this year - how things have changed. I felt it was significant, so read it, see what you think.
Have you all enjoyed your Christmas holidays? If not then I'm sorry you haven't, hopefully, against all the misery and destruction in the world - hopefully because you can read this, you've had a Christmas, be grateful for it, which I am sure you are.
Afghanistan - 'war torn' doesn't even come close. This country has been destroyed, and standards of living are appalling beyond belief. Why? Because they had the power to do it.
You won't have forgotten, I doubt you ever will - the attacks on America, the worst in history which wiped the world trade centre buildings from the skyline of New York, killed thousands of innocent people, upped the pace of the advancing recession, made the world's stock markets tumble, made heroes out of many, but more importantly, made us all think.
I know that on September 11th I'd never appreciated my own life, and the life around me so much - how anyone could do such a thing in my eye, was and is beyond me, beyond words.
I know this is still being discussed (by me at least), months on, but hey - a war is still being fought, there is always a war being fought - but to the point of my post - why is everything down to one man - a certain Osama Bin Laden?
Will the world breathe a sigh of release when definite news of his death reaches us all? You know, I think it will. The USA, UK, The Northern Aliance, etc - they've turned a country into refugee camp - Bin Laden still hasn't been found, people with dynamite in their shoes are still walking onto planes, and the threat of biological warfare is a constant fear in the back of many, many minds.
One man - and his band wagon, the Taliban - now defunct, does that mean the world is safe? Who knows. Who cares, and why, if I could only ask one question in life - why would it be 'why'?
How would you feel you when you watch the 'Breaking News' that Bin Laden has been captured - how significant will it really be? Killing him wouldn't rid the world of all evil, it'd only bring about more mixed feelings, more evil - how hypocritical would this be? Angry, relieved, elated? How would/will you feel?
I'm sorry to write about this, but I haven't before - I feel it's important to discuss what is important, and I hope you have something to add.
When I saw those famous landmarks collapse over 3 months ago on every channel - I was shocked, my heart went out to everyone, I donated to whichever charity was asking for donations regarding the situation - and this affected everything.
Respect everything - Please take time to write a reply, I hope this is a suitable topic.
Electric Hedgehog
Web posted on 14/7/01
The Taliban tries to stop "immoral" material entering their country. In the Afghan Islamic Press, Taliban Foreign Minister Maulvi Wakil Ahmad Muttawakil said the Afghan government was not directly against the internet as a medium of communication but was against the easy availability of adult and improper content. He continued, "we want to establish a system in Afghanistan through which we can control all those things that are wrong, obscene, immoral and against Islam." This ban comes as a blow for international aid agencies and foreign Embassies who are expected to comply with the new ruling. Up until now they have been using phone lines and ISPs provided by neighbouring Pakistan to gain internet access. The Afghanistan Government, as of yet, have not mentioned exactly how they are to police this blanket ban, as trying to determine who is using the phone line for the internet or a telephone call, could prove tricky."
"we want to establish a system in Afghanistan through which we can control all those things that are wrong, obscene, immoral and against Islam"
Got me thinking that bit did.
The above is a news article from this website - dated in July of this year - how things have changed. I felt it was significant, so read it, see what you think.
Have you all enjoyed your Christmas holidays? If not then I'm sorry you haven't, hopefully, against all the misery and destruction in the world - hopefully because you can read this, you've had a Christmas, be grateful for it, which I am sure you are.
Afghanistan - 'war torn' doesn't even come close. This country has been destroyed, and standards of living are appalling beyond belief. Why? Because they had the power to do it.
You won't have forgotten, I doubt you ever will - the attacks on America, the worst in history which wiped the world trade centre buildings from the skyline of New York, killed thousands of innocent people, upped the pace of the advancing recession, made the world's stock markets tumble, made heroes out of many, but more importantly, made us all think.
I know that on September 11th I'd never appreciated my own life, and the life around me so much - how anyone could do such a thing in my eye, was and is beyond me, beyond words.
I know this is still being discussed (by me at least), months on, but hey - a war is still being fought, there is always a war being fought - but to the point of my post - why is everything down to one man - a certain Osama Bin Laden?
Will the world breathe a sigh of release when definite news of his death reaches us all? You know, I think it will. The USA, UK, The Northern Aliance, etc - they've turned a country into refugee camp - Bin Laden still hasn't been found, people with dynamite in their shoes are still walking onto planes, and the threat of biological warfare is a constant fear in the back of many, many minds.
One man - and his band wagon, the Taliban - now defunct, does that mean the world is safe? Who knows. Who cares, and why, if I could only ask one question in life - why would it be 'why'?
How would you feel you when you watch the 'Breaking News' that Bin Laden has been captured - how significant will it really be? Killing him wouldn't rid the world of all evil, it'd only bring about more mixed feelings, more evil - how hypocritical would this be? Angry, relieved, elated? How would/will you feel?
I'm sorry to write about this, but I haven't before - I feel it's important to discuss what is important, and I hope you have something to add.
When I saw those famous landmarks collapse over 3 months ago on every channel - I was shocked, my heart went out to everyone, I donated to whichever charity was asking for donations regarding the situation - and this affected everything.
Respect everything - Please take time to write a reply, I hope this is a suitable topic.
Electric Hedgehog
Page: