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Wed 26/12/01 at 13:47
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There have been many accusations (mainly from Sony fans) that Nintendo is for babies, so this is my view on this matter.

People think Nintendo are for babies mainly because most of their famed mascots are cartooned in some way and from this people immediately assume that these games are for the younger audience of gamers. But this is not necessarily true. For a game to be for a young audience the look of the game doesn’t matter very much (apart from things like Resident Evil), it’s more the difficulty of the game. Cartooned games with a high difficulty level aren’t for babies.

Take Mario 64 for the Nintendo 64, this game is a very cartoon like game with no blood, gore or anything else like that but it is hard to complete. It’s hard enough going through all the levels and getting power stars from various tasks you must perform. But then when you have finally completed the game by beating the final boss you don’t stop there. You must find more power stars until you get to 120, this includes finding secret area’s in the main H.Q. of the game, the castle, and getting 100 coins on each level, which is one of the toughest things you’ll come across when it comes to some levels.

There are many more games like this; Banjo, Zelda and loads more. Then we come to Zelda games for the N64, which are not only more realistic graphics and scenes but also really hard task’s, boss’ and levels. Young gamers will play this but won’t get very far. Even little things like the horse racers are quite hard.

Also when people accuse Nintendo of making baby games, notice NINTENDO make baby games. It isn’t just Nintendo, it is the other people that make games for Nintendo consoles such as Rare. But as proved when Rare made masterpieces such as Conkers BFD, the amazing Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, these games aren’t for babies.

If this is what makes a games maker for babies, couldn’t Sony be for babies? Crash Bandicoot, Spyro the Dragon and more. But like Nintendo they have serious games like Resident Evil and Tomb Raider. All consoles have some kind of cartooned image in their games, but why is Nintendo hit with false accusations?

But all that I’ve said is now the past. Nintendo actually are doing what they’ve been accused of on the GameCube by making some of their longest running titles such as Zelda and Mario a lot easier and shorter. These games include Luigi’s Mansion, Zelda: GameCube and other long running Nintendo titles. But the future of the GameCube is looking up for the older audience with exclusive Resident Evil games, Eternal Darkness and hopeful remakes of Perfect Dark and Conkers BFD.

With Resident Evil going exclusive this may be why Nintendo are making Mario, Zelda and Luigi games shorter so they can hit a wider audience. People looking for an easy game, Luigi’s mansion, people looking for a great looking game Star Wars Rouge Leader: Rouge Squadron II, people looking for a scary, gore fest game, Resident Evil, people looking or multiplayer fun, Mario Kart: GameCube. A huge range of games for the Nintendo audience is coming.

Thanks for reading

RiCkOsS
Thu 27/12/01 at 12:34
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pb wrote:
> Good Post.

Wait a minute...

Nice title, Short introduction, rant, long
> list of games to back up arguement, short paragraph to sum up and ending
> line...that sounds familiar... ;-)

Hmmm, i'm not following, please explain...
Wed 26/12/01 at 19:39
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Well, Miyamoto himself said that he makes "family games"... so in fact Ninty's games are intended to be cute, cuddly, nice games that everyone can play...

And that's one of their huge selling points! Anyone can play them... from kids upwards!

I think what is most important for Ninty is not to change to the more adult games... but instead to try to get more third party developers on board to do that for them.... somehting they seem to have pulled off on the GC!

Sonic
Wed 26/12/01 at 19:05
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Good Post.

Wait a minute...

Nice title, Short introduction, rant, long list of games to back up arguement, short paragraph to sum up and ending line...that sounds familiar... ;-)
Wed 26/12/01 at 14:38
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Nintendo got this accusation because its main (ie. selling point) games were cartoony, while as Sonys main games weren't (even though Crash became a 'mascot' of sorts). Because of this, people decided that PSX was okay to have some 'kiddie' looking games for it because it was 'cool' and needed some stuff for kids. They saw N64, and saw most of its main, selling point games were 'kiddie' in appearance, and since most cute PSX games WERE designed with kids in mind, immediately decided the same must be true of the N64 titles.

Sony used Nintendos 'family friendly' image against it. But to accuse Nintendo of being a 'kids company' is a big mistake. F-Zero X anyone? Wave Race? Metriod? Sure maybe these titles are in a minority, but I'm sure the same people who accuse Nintendo of being 'kiddie' would love the multiplayer mayhem of Mario Kart 64. Anyway, it's content that matters for a game, not looks and if people are so shallow as to just judge a game on graphics, then I welcome them to an eternity playing flashy, but ultimately shallow games.
Wed 26/12/01 at 13:47
Regular
Posts: 10,437
There have been many accusations (mainly from Sony fans) that Nintendo is for babies, so this is my view on this matter.

People think Nintendo are for babies mainly because most of their famed mascots are cartooned in some way and from this people immediately assume that these games are for the younger audience of gamers. But this is not necessarily true. For a game to be for a young audience the look of the game doesn’t matter very much (apart from things like Resident Evil), it’s more the difficulty of the game. Cartooned games with a high difficulty level aren’t for babies.

Take Mario 64 for the Nintendo 64, this game is a very cartoon like game with no blood, gore or anything else like that but it is hard to complete. It’s hard enough going through all the levels and getting power stars from various tasks you must perform. But then when you have finally completed the game by beating the final boss you don’t stop there. You must find more power stars until you get to 120, this includes finding secret area’s in the main H.Q. of the game, the castle, and getting 100 coins on each level, which is one of the toughest things you’ll come across when it comes to some levels.

There are many more games like this; Banjo, Zelda and loads more. Then we come to Zelda games for the N64, which are not only more realistic graphics and scenes but also really hard task’s, boss’ and levels. Young gamers will play this but won’t get very far. Even little things like the horse racers are quite hard.

Also when people accuse Nintendo of making baby games, notice NINTENDO make baby games. It isn’t just Nintendo, it is the other people that make games for Nintendo consoles such as Rare. But as proved when Rare made masterpieces such as Conkers BFD, the amazing Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, these games aren’t for babies.

If this is what makes a games maker for babies, couldn’t Sony be for babies? Crash Bandicoot, Spyro the Dragon and more. But like Nintendo they have serious games like Resident Evil and Tomb Raider. All consoles have some kind of cartooned image in their games, but why is Nintendo hit with false accusations?

But all that I’ve said is now the past. Nintendo actually are doing what they’ve been accused of on the GameCube by making some of their longest running titles such as Zelda and Mario a lot easier and shorter. These games include Luigi’s Mansion, Zelda: GameCube and other long running Nintendo titles. But the future of the GameCube is looking up for the older audience with exclusive Resident Evil games, Eternal Darkness and hopeful remakes of Perfect Dark and Conkers BFD.

With Resident Evil going exclusive this may be why Nintendo are making Mario, Zelda and Luigi games shorter so they can hit a wider audience. People looking for an easy game, Luigi’s mansion, people looking for a great looking game Star Wars Rouge Leader: Rouge Squadron II, people looking for a scary, gore fest game, Resident Evil, people looking or multiplayer fun, Mario Kart: GameCube. A huge range of games for the Nintendo audience is coming.

Thanks for reading

RiCkOsS

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