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Thu 06/12/01 at 20:14
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or summat like that??

I would like to know how to make a website searchable so I could put a search box on it....or even better, a members page or something like that.

But the Search thing is more important. Because I would like to know so I can put it on...in say a month. As I will soon have lots more things on my website.

So is it something to do with sorting them into folders or on Excel???

Can someone please help me out??
Mon 17/12/01 at 13:38
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Tyla wrote:
>I was trying to point out that
> if you made it Serverside instead of dependant on the client, it wouldn't matter
> if the end user had JS turned off.

Great minds think alike....

Personally I wouldn't go for a JS based
> search anyway, but thats dependant on the level of search you want to do. If
> your basing it on the text within the site then fine, but as you know your self,
> for Database searching, the solution is probably better found elswhere. either
> JSP, ASP or even PHP.

I love it when you talk dirty to me...

What's being used at the data source?
What level of
> granularity is the search to run at?
Booleans?
Strings?

Now you are just being an*l ;) Dammit - rudeness checker wouldn't let me write an*l!

>I hate
> searches... I spend my life building GUI's for them and have yet to find one
> that thinks the same way as a user... luckily I leave all of that to the
> CodeMonkeys upstairs!!:-)

Damn you designer types! Still, that what us CodeMonkeys what are for eh? Yeh, I know what you mean about searches though, you can't please all the people all the time, even less so when it comes to building them a web site.


I'd suggest that ZP gpes with what he's
> comfortable with as it will be ZP who has to maintain and babysit it in the
> end.

Good advice.
Mon 17/12/01 at 13:34
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Tyla wrote:
> Turbonutter wrote:
> Not to mention the fact that some people browse
>
> with js turned off, leaving the site useless.

Now is that dependant on
> whether it's client side ot sever side?

Er, surely it dosn't matter if the browser has disabled js if the js is run server side?

I know js can sometimes be better, but due to browser problems and stuff, I prefer doing stuff like form validation server-side (ASP or TCL or JSP or PL, whatever...) rather then client side js, that way, OK, it takes up server cycles, but at least you know FOR SURE that data is valid.

IMHO, js should only be used for button rollovers!!! And even then sparingly!

Hey, anyone noticed... turn off js in NS4, and style sheets stop working aswell. Nice one.
Mon 17/12/01 at 13:32
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Turbonutter wrote:
> Tyla: I don't really
> understand what you're getting at, but it's client side obviously.

I was trying to point out that if you made it Serverside instead of dependant on the client, it wouldn't matter if the end user had JS turned off.

Personally I wouldn't go for a JS based search anyway, but thats dependant on the level of search you want to do. If your basing it on the text within the site then fine, but as you know your self, for Database searching, the solution is probably better found elswhere. either JSP, ASP or even PHP.

What's being used at the data source?
What level of granularity is the search to run at?
Booleans?
Strings?


I hate searches... I spend my life building GUI's for them and have yet to find one that thinks the same way as a user... luckily I leave all of that to the CodeMonkeys upstairs!!:-)


I'd suggest that ZP gpes with what he's comfortable with as it will be ZP who has to maintain and babysit it in the end.
Mon 17/12/01 at 13:22
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ajg wrote:
> JS is by far quicker than searching a database. actually.


That wholly depends on the speed of the user's PC, and whether they really want to give up the sycles to performs regex on God knows how many terms when the server really should be doing it.

Tyla: I don't really understand what you're getting at, but it's client side obviously. If you're using a server that doesn't have database access then you probably would have to go with the JS option, but I would always try and find another server first.
Mon 17/12/01 at 13:16
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Turbonutter wrote:
> Not to mention the fact that some people browse
> with js turned off, leaving the site useless.

Now is that dependant on whether it's client side ot sever side?
Mon 17/12/01 at 13:08
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JS is by far quicker than searching a database. actually.
Sat 15/12/01 at 11:24
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monkey_man wrote:
> STOP SLAGING OFF JAVASCRIPT!!!


No, really, JavaScript has its uses I admit but do you have any idea how resource sucking a JavaScript DATABASE would be? Not to mention the fact that some people browse with js turned off, leaving the site useless.
Wed 12/12/01 at 21:31
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STOP SLAGING OFF JAVASCRIPT!!!
Wed 12/12/01 at 21:15
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Sorry I tok so long to reply!

I will try the first suggestion using Javascript otherwise will try the other php/asp ones!

Thanx
Fri 07/12/01 at 22:52
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ARGH! DON'T EVEN MENTION JAVASCRIPT!

Get yourself over to phpbuilder.com or search Google for free PHP scripts and you should find something that's just what you want. I used to use something very groovy and exactly what you want, but because I can't access my Windows drives right now I can't tell you. When I get Linux Xfree86 installed and configured I'll get back to you.

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