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Fri 23/11/01 at 14:21
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Right, do you consider yourself a true gamer then? Do you consider yourself a person who can distinguish from good quality games to dog efforts?
Are you the person who Isn't 'New' on the scene to videogames? ( 10 years is new) .
Good, then you are In the right place.
Being that I am thankful for the 'Nintendo difference' that we depend on for the Console greats. But can you readily say that?

There are those out there who consider themselves to know 'Nintendo' and then blast them for all they have, just because they disagree with a particular stance that the Big N have.
The reason we were all drawn to Nintendo in the first place was their ability to innovate and constantly change the way we feel about videogames.
Now, when Miyamoto decides to change the visual style of Zelda, everyone has a fit.
Is this not the same man you have blindly followed and believed in since the first Mario Bros. appeared?
Is this not the person who has never (and I mean NEVER) let you down before?
Were many of you not saying how gameplay is king only days before Space World?.
You all know deep in your hearts that the new Zelda will be a dream to play, so for those that where upset with the new Zelda- why the sudden backlash?
I can understand being a little nervous about the change in direction, but to have supposed life-long Nintendo fans charging off to their nearest store and blowing their Gamecube savings on a PS2 simply because of Zelda is not only irrational and naive, but it's just plain stupid.

Hell, if Miyamoto can make a game like Pikmin feel epic, then he can sure as hell make a cartoon-style Zelda be the most dramatic thing this side of FFVII.
If we've learned but one thing from the past, it's that Miyamoto has a magical gift to take the simplest of ideas and turn it into an incredible game experience.
You believed that once, so why not now?
If you agree, then I believe it's because you know that Nintendo, moreso than anybody, is a company that understands what videogames are all about. At least wait until you have more information about any of these games (preferably until you play them) before you write them off. Nintendo will not let you down.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's perfectly acceptable to be a little worried about a beloved franchise such as Zelda, but for those to react in the manner that so many on the net have done over the past two months is just foolish.
And it's that sort of behaviour that makes everyone label Nintendo consoles as 'kiddie' machines, when they are clearly not, with Miyamoto supporting the handshake for Resident Evil, they have always seen fit to gear them towards 'everyone' in the household, rather than a PS Type 'late teen's only'- plus- Sony's stance has been a little unsuccessful too considering the majority of its gamers are in the 10-15 year old bracket, yes 'only youngsters'!.
In the end you're defined by your actions, not by your console, and if that's the way you react towards the new Zelda, then you most certainly deserve to be labelled a child.
So you are either with Nintendo or not, criticising a game you've seen a clip of won't help. All good things come to those who wait. And from that you will get the final results and answers to many questions. Now the only problem 'Is the wait' for us Europeans, time to press Nintendo Europe again me thinks.
Fri 23/11/01 at 21:05
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"I like cheese"
Posts: 16,918
Your Honour wrote:
> WolfHound wrote:
> Right, do you consider yourself a true gamer then? Do
> you consider yourself a> person who can distinguish from good quality games
> to dog efforts?
Are you the> person who Isn't 'New' on the scene to
> videogames? ( 10 years is new).


What!?

What are you on about? Why should
> you have been on the "scene" for 10 years to not be classed as
> "new"? What a bunch of a**e.

Oh, that was brilliant YH!! I love the last 5 words. :D
Fri 23/11/01 at 20:31
Posts: 0
I find it ironic that you try to define a real gamer, in terms of years of gaming experience, as well as someone that knows "Big N" well. People conjure up weird and wornderful synonyms for Nintendo to try to make themselves sound like a mate down the pub they've had for years. You then go on to say how people have reacted with outrage at the path the zelda series has taken. Without people voicing their concerns, then Nintendo won't know what sort of decisions to make to make the majority of Nintendo fans happy. It must be said that Nintendo, and all companies do not care about long time fans, if there are young mugs with affluent parents willing to buy the console and games. The games industry has turned to serve the majority, as this is the only way they will survive in their current form, however Sega found this out too late.
Fri 23/11/01 at 19:45
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"Dunemaul NE Hunter"
Posts: 549
You can't deny the success of the Gamecube in the USA. It has to be popular to sell what it has sold.
Fri 23/11/01 at 18:42
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Posts: 14,117
WolfHound wrote:
> Right, do you consider yourself a true gamer then? Do you consider yourself a> person who can distinguish from good quality games to dog efforts?
Are you the> person who Isn't 'New' on the scene to videogames? ( 10 years is new).


What!?

What are you on about? Why should you have been on the "scene" for 10 years to not be classed as "new"? What a bunch of a**e.

This isn't aimed directly at you, by the way, but why do some people seem to think that if you've only been gaming for a couple of years, you're not a "proper" gamer? What difference does the length of time make?

My brother has owner a console since the SNES, I the first console I owned was an N64.

Does that mean he is more of a gamer than I am? Not at all. He hardly plays his N64 any more. He isn't up to date with the games scene, and has no idea what games to get with his some-to-be-purchased PS2.

It doesn't matter how long you've been a gamer for. Someone may have only owned a console for 6 months, but could read up on it everyday from the 'net etc and know more about future releases and anyone else.

Also, no one should have a duff game in their collection. There are magazines and web sites full of reviews. It doesn't take much effort to read up on a game before you buy it.

I have never bought a game I was disappointed with in my life. Why? Because I take the time to read previews, reviews and features on games, so I know what I'm spending my hard earned on.

But that doesn't make me any more or less a "gamer" than someone who has been playing games for 6 months or 15 years.
Fri 23/11/01 at 18:29
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"Nasty Fat Hobbit!"
Posts: 1,193
I've read that topic and there is NO evidence of a 15 hour epic!

Nintendo has not mentioned any specifics about the game.

Just wait and see the final game when It's released. Hence this topic's point!
Fri 23/11/01 at 15:43
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Posts: 9,848
I'm fine with the cartoony look. It looks fantastic.
But Nintendo's new policy of turning Zelda into a 15 hour, simplistic linear kiddies game (see Dringo's metamorphis topic) is a real disappointment.

I won't snap at the graphics style but if they're going to start making their games shorter and easier, I'm not going to blindly support that.

You can see the full argument in the mentioned topic.
Fri 23/11/01 at 14:21
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"Nasty Fat Hobbit!"
Posts: 1,193
Right, do you consider yourself a true gamer then? Do you consider yourself a person who can distinguish from good quality games to dog efforts?
Are you the person who Isn't 'New' on the scene to videogames? ( 10 years is new) .
Good, then you are In the right place.
Being that I am thankful for the 'Nintendo difference' that we depend on for the Console greats. But can you readily say that?

There are those out there who consider themselves to know 'Nintendo' and then blast them for all they have, just because they disagree with a particular stance that the Big N have.
The reason we were all drawn to Nintendo in the first place was their ability to innovate and constantly change the way we feel about videogames.
Now, when Miyamoto decides to change the visual style of Zelda, everyone has a fit.
Is this not the same man you have blindly followed and believed in since the first Mario Bros. appeared?
Is this not the person who has never (and I mean NEVER) let you down before?
Were many of you not saying how gameplay is king only days before Space World?.
You all know deep in your hearts that the new Zelda will be a dream to play, so for those that where upset with the new Zelda- why the sudden backlash?
I can understand being a little nervous about the change in direction, but to have supposed life-long Nintendo fans charging off to their nearest store and blowing their Gamecube savings on a PS2 simply because of Zelda is not only irrational and naive, but it's just plain stupid.

Hell, if Miyamoto can make a game like Pikmin feel epic, then he can sure as hell make a cartoon-style Zelda be the most dramatic thing this side of FFVII.
If we've learned but one thing from the past, it's that Miyamoto has a magical gift to take the simplest of ideas and turn it into an incredible game experience.
You believed that once, so why not now?
If you agree, then I believe it's because you know that Nintendo, moreso than anybody, is a company that understands what videogames are all about. At least wait until you have more information about any of these games (preferably until you play them) before you write them off. Nintendo will not let you down.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's perfectly acceptable to be a little worried about a beloved franchise such as Zelda, but for those to react in the manner that so many on the net have done over the past two months is just foolish.
And it's that sort of behaviour that makes everyone label Nintendo consoles as 'kiddie' machines, when they are clearly not, with Miyamoto supporting the handshake for Resident Evil, they have always seen fit to gear them towards 'everyone' in the household, rather than a PS Type 'late teen's only'- plus- Sony's stance has been a little unsuccessful too considering the majority of its gamers are in the 10-15 year old bracket, yes 'only youngsters'!.
In the end you're defined by your actions, not by your console, and if that's the way you react towards the new Zelda, then you most certainly deserve to be labelled a child.
So you are either with Nintendo or not, criticising a game you've seen a clip of won't help. All good things come to those who wait. And from that you will get the final results and answers to many questions. Now the only problem 'Is the wait' for us Europeans, time to press Nintendo Europe again me thinks.

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