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Thu 08/11/01 at 11:24
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Civilisation 3.
From Sid Meir, the daddy of PC strategy/RTS games. These games rock, take a tribe from Stone Age right up to and beyond space age.
There are hundreds of stats, charts and settings available at your command, the interface is user-friendly and enjoyably animated.
You can choose your tribe, your enemies and everything else you can think of.
And despite all of these advancements, it suffers from the same inherent fault that all of these games, be they by Meir or not, suffer from.

Stupid opponent AI.
You know what I’m talking about (I know YH does, that’s for sure).

I started a tutorial game, to get used to it all. Ok, was getting by, had two cities made and building roads and stuff.
And here comes Ghandi from India
“Hello Cleopatra, we want to swap map-making for the wheel and 150 gold and philosophy”
Umm…that doesn’t seem entirely fair to me, so I select the “No thanks, that is all” option.
And what happens?
“Prepare for war, we will not tolerate such insolence”.
Hello? Ghandi is waging war on me? What the hell is going on? I’ve only been playing for 40 mins, I have 2 workers and a warrior. And now I am swarmed by angry Ghandi soldiers laying waste to my little empire?
My people are too busy trying to figure out how to build roads, and now I am being wiped out by a peace-loving wise man???

So I restart and choose my own parameters.
Large map, 2 opponents, loads of resources. I figure I’ll have France & Germany on the map with me.
Again things go ok, I’m developing nicely with my research and city expansion. Even start to build a wonder.
And over wanders Joan of Arc, “Hello Lincoln, we wish to learn the secret of map-making.”
Ah, I’m not falling for this again so I agree.
We’re mates, except her soldiers are wandering all through my land and setting up embassies.
When I do this, she gets shirt and demands I withdraw my troops.
So I demand she removes hers from my precious things and, surprise surprise, “Joan of Arc declares war on you. She has forged an alliance with Germany!”

Oh for chrissakes, France and Germany attacking me together?
And here they come.
In chariots.
I’m still researching literature and mathematics. My people eat food they gather from the floor and don’t know how to read or write.
So how the hell does Frenchy have bloody chariots already?
We’ve been playing the same amount of time, and now Germany has fusiliers?
This sucks.
Why are my toeheads eating berries and using sticks to draw with, whilst France and Germany know everything and take great delight in smashing my face in with advanced weaponry???
That’s it, I’m downloading cheats today and playing it tonight, gonna get me some F16s and see how well their horses stand up to aerial bombardment.

I love strategy games, but I get fed up with the damn dirty computer opponents turning into Stephen Hawkins whilst my troop of apes are living in caves and eating dirt.
Thu 08/11/01 at 14:52
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"Infantalised Forums"
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It is the game.
When the hell did Ghandi ever launch an offensive with warriors, archers and spearmen against a nation of 2 workers and a settler, strolling around looking for silk?

Bah
Thu 08/11/01 at 14:51
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See, that's what your doing wrong. Lie, cheat and steal to beat the computer, thats what I do, but that's because I'm nasty like that. If you try to rule the world by being nice and liking everyone, they'll stab you in the back and take your throne. :D
Thu 08/11/01 at 14:49
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Aye, we all believe you, it has to be the game. (Which I don't have these problems with :D).
Thu 08/11/01 at 14:49
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"Infantalised Forums"
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My post was to Bonus, for suggesting I am inferior at a game that lies, cheats and steals to beat me.
Thu 08/11/01 at 14:48
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Shut up.
It's the game, all the game and nothing to do with me.

I am perfect in all ways strategic and clearly this stupid game hates me and cheats to defeat my might.

Obviously.
Thu 08/11/01 at 14:48
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I found Age of Empires better than the original Civilisation when it comes to evolving. You were still behind the enemy, but not to such a great level.

My Age of Empires tactic is perfectly simple.

Send in many, many crappy men.

Crappy men only cost food, and you can get food faster than you create men, so you send in the basic battle-axe warriors to take out the huge towers, and don't waste any precious gold.

I like my gold more that I like my population.

Remind you of anyone?
Thu 08/11/01 at 14:43
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See, that too me just sounds like you aren't too hot at the game. I was addicted to civilisation for years, and once you learn the tricks of the trade, you don't have these problems.

:D
Thu 08/11/01 at 14:39
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"France has begun work on The Great Library"
What? That's not fair.

(40 mins later)

"France has completed The Great Library"
Eh? Hang on, that takes 100 turns to do that. What the hell is happening here?

(20 mins later)

"France is coming to kick your monkey-ass all over the map"
No, this cannot be. Look at my dirty peasants, they irrigate and try to construct archers.
This isn't fair

"France has decided to encamp outside your cities so you can see their shiny weapons, good luck with researching the wheel"
Dammit. I'm turning this off.

(Pretty much every RTS game, so why do I love them so?)
Thu 08/11/01 at 14:28
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It's funny 'cause it's true.

Damn dirty RTS.
Thu 08/11/01 at 13:34
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Damn that Gandhi, I always distrusted him.

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