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Thu 08/11/01 at 09:53
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The hype surrounding those two massive releases - Harry Potter and Lord of The Rings - is beginning to get to me, and not because of all the loot J K Rowling and Christopher Tolkein will have rolling in. It's because the quality of the books is getting lost in all this. People are going to go and watch Lord of The Rings and see a different story than Tolkein wrote. They've changed it, and the biggest difference is that Arwen will not be mooning about Rivendell, worrying about Aragorn like she should be. No, those film producers have gone all feminist and made Arwen a warrior-princess, running amok with a band of elven archers. Yep, sounds good to me, guys, but have you forgotten, you are basing this on a BOOK? This means your script is already there for you. OK, so some padding may have to be cut, but you can't significantly change it. It just isn't the story!

Sigh, these won't matter to the little kids. They'll trot into the cinema and gasp at pretty elfs and dwarfs. They'll hiss at orcs, boo at the Dark Riders and cheer Frodo. But they won't have the slightest what it all means. If Frodo or Bilbo refer to Smaug, or Dale, none of the little kids holding their Lord of The Rings popcorn will understand. But that won't matter, there's a shiny ring to look at! Oooo...

The same, gladly, isn't true of Harry Potter. Most of the kids have read the books, and this is why the Harry Potter phenomona is so widely regarded - it has got kids reading again. My parents are avid readers, and they got me reading at an early age. I read Lord of the Rings for the first time aged 9, and I'm grateful to my parents for that. But these kids aren't expanding their reading reportorie. I actually saw a kid ask for the latest Harry Potter book at Waterstones the other day when I was queuing with Terry Pratchett's latest offering in my hands. The assistant said no, and kindly refered to some remarkably similiar titles, with similiar appeal. Brian Jacques, for example. His Redwall sagas were one of my favourites from 10-12. This kids looked about old enough for that. But the kid looked angry at the assistant and walked from the shop. No doubt McDonalds was tempting him from round the corner. I was going to say something, but then I remembered I'm 16 and therefore shouldn't be seen in a bookshop, so I dutifully ducked my head and paid for my book, then stashed it in a O'Neill bag and ran from the store ;-)

Ok, so at least kids are reading. I love Harry Potter too, which isn't child-like. It's a great series, and deserves the sucess it has. Good for light-reading, so to speak, when I'm tired and my Terry Goodkind novel looks a bit too long-winded. This has made it possible for a movie to be made, and, thankfully, JK Rowling has had her hands tightly on the reins from the word go. Speilburg wanted to direct this movie, and I've heard rumours he wanted Haley Joel Osment as Harry Potter. That oh-so American kid from Sixth Sense and A.I? No thanks! JK has seen to it that the cast is British - John Cleese, Richard Harris, Maggie Smith and so on. Well done, her. The movie won't have been changed at all! I wonder what would have happened had JRR Tolkein still been alive now? No corruption of Arwen's character, I bet!

So, my point is : The literature is going to be lost. A stream of marketing has been unleased. I went babysitting the other day, and they had the TV turned off. What? Then I noticed "Mystery at Hogwarts" boardgame on the floor. Ah, I thought, and got my book out. Then they said I could be the green hat, and have Filch's card. Well, thats an offer no one can refuse ;-). Actually, it was quite fun. Quasi-Cleudo, sort of. I've seen Harry Potter everything, including perscription Harry Potter glasses. Oh, please. Kids no longer swop Pokemon cards, they swop Harry for Hermione, and hope not to get Snape in the next packet. Lord of the Rings hysteria hasn't really hit yet, but I bet it will.

If only they movie clerks could ask " Are you 12" AND "Have you read the book?", then entry for Lord of the Rings would be great. I'd be surrounded by people grumbling about how Arwen isn't moping. Super.

So, what do you fellow movie fans think? Dicuss, please.Maybe I'm not old before my time? Doubt it.

Cheers, Stryke.
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Thu 08/11/01 at 09:53
Regular
Posts: 16,548
The hype surrounding those two massive releases - Harry Potter and Lord of The Rings - is beginning to get to me, and not because of all the loot J K Rowling and Christopher Tolkein will have rolling in. It's because the quality of the books is getting lost in all this. People are going to go and watch Lord of The Rings and see a different story than Tolkein wrote. They've changed it, and the biggest difference is that Arwen will not be mooning about Rivendell, worrying about Aragorn like she should be. No, those film producers have gone all feminist and made Arwen a warrior-princess, running amok with a band of elven archers. Yep, sounds good to me, guys, but have you forgotten, you are basing this on a BOOK? This means your script is already there for you. OK, so some padding may have to be cut, but you can't significantly change it. It just isn't the story!

Sigh, these won't matter to the little kids. They'll trot into the cinema and gasp at pretty elfs and dwarfs. They'll hiss at orcs, boo at the Dark Riders and cheer Frodo. But they won't have the slightest what it all means. If Frodo or Bilbo refer to Smaug, or Dale, none of the little kids holding their Lord of The Rings popcorn will understand. But that won't matter, there's a shiny ring to look at! Oooo...

The same, gladly, isn't true of Harry Potter. Most of the kids have read the books, and this is why the Harry Potter phenomona is so widely regarded - it has got kids reading again. My parents are avid readers, and they got me reading at an early age. I read Lord of the Rings for the first time aged 9, and I'm grateful to my parents for that. But these kids aren't expanding their reading reportorie. I actually saw a kid ask for the latest Harry Potter book at Waterstones the other day when I was queuing with Terry Pratchett's latest offering in my hands. The assistant said no, and kindly refered to some remarkably similiar titles, with similiar appeal. Brian Jacques, for example. His Redwall sagas were one of my favourites from 10-12. This kids looked about old enough for that. But the kid looked angry at the assistant and walked from the shop. No doubt McDonalds was tempting him from round the corner. I was going to say something, but then I remembered I'm 16 and therefore shouldn't be seen in a bookshop, so I dutifully ducked my head and paid for my book, then stashed it in a O'Neill bag and ran from the store ;-)

Ok, so at least kids are reading. I love Harry Potter too, which isn't child-like. It's a great series, and deserves the sucess it has. Good for light-reading, so to speak, when I'm tired and my Terry Goodkind novel looks a bit too long-winded. This has made it possible for a movie to be made, and, thankfully, JK Rowling has had her hands tightly on the reins from the word go. Speilburg wanted to direct this movie, and I've heard rumours he wanted Haley Joel Osment as Harry Potter. That oh-so American kid from Sixth Sense and A.I? No thanks! JK has seen to it that the cast is British - John Cleese, Richard Harris, Maggie Smith and so on. Well done, her. The movie won't have been changed at all! I wonder what would have happened had JRR Tolkein still been alive now? No corruption of Arwen's character, I bet!

So, my point is : The literature is going to be lost. A stream of marketing has been unleased. I went babysitting the other day, and they had the TV turned off. What? Then I noticed "Mystery at Hogwarts" boardgame on the floor. Ah, I thought, and got my book out. Then they said I could be the green hat, and have Filch's card. Well, thats an offer no one can refuse ;-). Actually, it was quite fun. Quasi-Cleudo, sort of. I've seen Harry Potter everything, including perscription Harry Potter glasses. Oh, please. Kids no longer swop Pokemon cards, they swop Harry for Hermione, and hope not to get Snape in the next packet. Lord of the Rings hysteria hasn't really hit yet, but I bet it will.

If only they movie clerks could ask " Are you 12" AND "Have you read the book?", then entry for Lord of the Rings would be great. I'd be surrounded by people grumbling about how Arwen isn't moping. Super.

So, what do you fellow movie fans think? Dicuss, please.Maybe I'm not old before my time? Doubt it.

Cheers, Stryke.

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